Carlton always change to make change.
The bigger the club, the more people who have a better plan.

I think we will see change.
It doesnt take much to unleash players from then constraints of a difficult plan that doesn't suit the personnel.
I don't think Vossy and Co are arrogant and fixed in their ways.

_________________
Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

I wonder what we would have become of us last year if we stuck to the game plan we played under for the first 10 games, even with injuries?

Everyone Carlton, including you and me and Vossy and co listened to the media's advice about the chink in our armour, our inability to defend turnovers. The same media who sang our praises claiming us to be bonafide top 4, the best at this, and best at that.

I think Vossy has shown us what works, and what doesn't.

He will size up the opposition, and I reckon unleash the boys against a team we match up with.
Every listed player and coach has heard all the advice from the media and co, and some are worth trying.
The game plan will continue to evolve. We have the list to be doing better than we have.

Intriguing point of time vs Top 8 aspirant.

_________________
Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Daniel Hoyne with some great Carlton analysis: “I don't think anyone is questioning Carlton's talent in each third of the ground, it's more the method that they're implementing at the moment that's got people questioning them.

The ball movement method is the one for me. We saw the first 4-5 weeks they implemented more of a controlled, low boundary method to protect the back half, that actually worked defensively but offensively that struggled.

Over the past couple of weeks, we've seen them shift a little bit in that way. They've become a little bit quicker, they're trying to attack the corridor a little bit more but it does look a little disjointed at the moment.

That can take a bit of time when you're making a shift offensively in terms of what you're actually doing.

[In terms of clearance] it's interesting, in the first 4 weeks their clearance game in terms of scoring from clearance really dropped away from 2nd to about mid table, if you have a look at the last 3-4 weeks their scoring from stoppage is actually got back to #2 in the competition.

It's been what they've been able to do in the turnover game, that gets back to the ball movement side of things. They haven't been able to punish opposition going back the other way.

That's where the confusion comes into it, they struggle to score from stoppage the first couple of weeks but were going ok from turnover. The last four weeks that's flipped again, so trying to find that balance right is what they're struggling to do at the moment.”

Daniel Hoyne on Adam Cerra: “I just want to talk about a midfielder, Adam Cerra. This week there's a lot of talk about Carlton & the impact their mids are actually having from the disposals they're actually racking up.

There's one midfielder at the moment that is having significant impact on the disposals he's having, that's Adam Cerra. Over the last 4 weeks, he's the 4th highest rated player in the competition.

That might surprise some people, again I get back to the ball use perspective which is the issue at the moment at the Blues. Over the last 4 weeks, these are the top 4 players having impact with their ball use:

#1 Tom Hawkins
#2 Jeremy Cameron
#3 ADAM CERRA

If you compare the impact of his ball use to the next ranked midfielder at Carlton, it's actually double any other Carlton midfielder at the moment. If you're a Carlton supporter, you want to get the ball in his hands.

I talked about what Carlton have been able to do the last 5 weeks [earlier in the show], scoring from clearance & contest work has been strong, their ball movement has been a bit more aggressive, he has been a significant reason why that aspect of the game has turned.”

Kane Cornes: “I was definitely a critic of his since he has come to the club, because I didn't think he had that impact. I didn't think he was doing the damage with his possessions, but you've clearly noticed the shift.

He's getting more of it too, he was a low 20's sort of midfielder who largely went unnoticed at times but you're right, big impact in the last month.

He's been one of the most improved players in the competition, which is terrific & exactly what they needed to take the pressure off Cripps & Walsh.”

Let Cripps Hewett Kennedy Walsh Cerra play through the middle consistently. They are the best we have. Let them play

Good read Farmer, thanks.
The concern is the players seem to be struggling to adapt to the game plan adjustments during the season.
And I really can't believe the game plan is so difficult for the players to adjust to, even though we all know it does take time to gel.
The concern for me is that if players are unable to make these adjustments over several games or even during a game, then we need to find players that can.
Good teams adapt, great teams do it quicker.

Get it to Cerra.

Thatnks for the reports above Farmer. Great stuff.

I agree. They are the main 5, but we need to get a few more running through there who are tough enough when the going gets tough.ie not Fisher.
I strongly believe Walsh and Cerra can provide the outside speed and class we need for the inside bulls.

Last year we had that forward handball working for us at CB's.
But we also had Williams and Saad running from HB to collect a handball from mids out the back.
We have Cincotta and Docherty to replace the Williams role at CB's.

I'd like to add another quick in that mix...Williams....nah.
I would like a look at BV's idea of running Motlop and Durdin through the midfield to mix it up.

_________________
Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

I really believe it's more about style than personal. Early last year we were quick with that midfield. We took it away from the centre and ran forward in numbers. We don't know and I don't know why
I am all for giving Durdin Motlop Martin when fit even Charlie midfield minutes to refresh and break it up but I don't believe that's the issue

I'd also go for One ruck with McGovern Young & McKay do have ruck minutes. Richmond won a flag with Grigg rucking.

There's a good reason why the ruck wasn't important for Richmond back in Griggs days. They cant play like that anymore, even with a helping hand from Nankervis. Moot point.

Gov? Ruck? Interesting.

_________________
Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Collingwood have been doing well without one
Saints have been playing with Marshall and others filling in
Cats use players everywhere as rucks

This won’t happen but we need to settle on Cripps, Cerra, Walsh as the key midfielders and rotations of Kennedy and Dow.

_________________
"You are being watched. The government has a secret system. A machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because I built it." - Finch

I'm not a fan of one ruck, but pointless to play 2 if the 2nd is no good or badly out of form.

All teams are different.
Some midfield groups are good at reading the opposition ruck.
Cats have Blicavs and Stanley.

What worries me is having a slowish midfield group and the opposition dominating ruck just has to hit ball into space for their mids to run onto.

_________________
Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

We are coached terribly and everyone can see it.

Carlton is pretending in the media that it's all ok and we will just stick to the plan.

Reality is change is needed and urgently.

Going to be an interesting month.

_________________
*(grow - fun - gah)

Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Agree with what you're saying - but do you think, with the general nature and personality of our list (not just now, it's baked into our culture going back to 2001), that a 'blow it up' mid-season change of style etc would be embraced, or used as a crutch or excuse as to why we lost?

_________________
The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

So I see Vossy saying its an obsession to be talking about making finals at 8 rounds.... (Im paraphrasing here but that is what he is implying.

Is that just Voss talk to avoid the focus on that?

I understand the mantra of "one week at a time".... BUT if you are not focused on success and what can be done to get you there, then aren't you just treading water, like we have been doing for flower knows how long?

I mentioned it elsewhere, but when you see a player like Adan Cerra, suggesting it isn't "failure" if they don't make finals this year, surely we should be concerned! Given he has that mindset, then then the playing group is likely to as well and its yet again sticking to what I had hoped had gone from this club and its culture. That is accepting mediocrity. I just do not accept "mediocrity". How is it that this stigma still seems to be OK still in this club?

_________________
Cripps is the man

Very disappointing comments - again.

Lol, you conveniently left out what he said at the start of the presser which was "we don't just want to make the 8, we want to make an impact".

Noted.

They are "words". Lets see some action!

_________________
Cripps is the man

Correct . Doesn't want to be there just to make up the numbers . Reckon thats a winners attitude .

_________________
All my dangerous friends