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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 12:38 pm 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
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I refuse to watch anything to confirm this but I thought Pitto played really well, yet doesn't rate a mention in many write ups.

Am I off the mark?


Yes. His opponent was in their top 5. I had Pitto in our bottom 5. I think he's a reserve level ruckman. Can't question the effort - just not good enough. So we currently have a ruckman who essentially isn't up to it and another who shows glimpses around the ground but rarely in the ruck.


When Pittonet plays well we do well. Unfortunately it's nowhere near enough. Thought he was well beaten last night
Conclusion - I'm utterly clueless. :lol:

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 12:39 pm 
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kezza wrote:
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Seeing 20k empty seats after 3 qtr time is a huge statement by the fans...

Did anyone notice a few boos at 3/4 time?


Loud and clear on TV


I didn't boo, I just left.

Same as me.
It has been a long time since the team was booed.
Booing with your feet...

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 12:41 pm 
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I don't think I read the post properly.
I didn't leave, I didn't boo.
Trust me, I wanted to leave.


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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 12:46 pm 
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Some terrible selections.
Some wrong match ups.
A lot of selfish players.
Some serious turnover / panic merchants.
A couple just don't belong.

There are your issues. Coaches need to grow some and make the hard calls..............eg. Dropping Fisher. (FMD)


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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 12:49 pm 
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It is 10 years since we made finals, and that was only because of Essendon*.
How are still in this position?
This is so depressing and frustrating.
There is only so much supporters can take.


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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 12:51 pm 
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Owies misses another set shot from 20

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 12:53 pm 
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Owies misses another set shot.

Missed 4 set shots kicked a run on goal

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 12:57 pm 
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Lemmey misses set shot.

So after his 3 straight goals in his first game he's kicked 1.8

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 1:00 pm 
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Boyd punched ball through goals but makes it to goal square for a glao off the ground to Lions.

Some of Boyd's handballs have been hospital passes....not sure where he's at.

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 1:02 pm 
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Lions 4 points up at 3/4 time

Rain starts again

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 1:14 pm 
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Lions 2.2 in the last

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 1:16 pm 
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Crocker marks in front of goal

GOAL

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 1:17 pm 
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Also thought McGovern was pretty good last night.


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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 1:19 pm 
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GreatEx wrote:
Good post, siders. Reading bb's reserves commentary today, it sounds like Cottrell is worth a look for senior selection next week, while Owies needs another run out for the ressies. I'd bring Cotters and BamBam in for Ed and Honey.

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 1:30 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Lemmey misses set shot.

So after his 3 straight goals in his first game he's kicked 1.8



We’ve Carltonized him well.


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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 1:35 pm 
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tommi wrote:
Seriously….

in what world does Honey or Ed get a game ahead
of Kennedy…?

is our game plan THAT delicate…?

i know it’s not like for like…but Kennedy brings
SO much more to the team in general…doesn’t
make sense…!

rather arrogant of us thinking we’re that good
we can afford to have Kennedy as Sub…!

gee whizz…!


kindest regards tommi



& then bringing him on so late too

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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 1:46 pm 
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Like i have said previously too many issues but what i believe the biggest, is the coaching staff as a whole.

Our whole game plan, our selections and player positioning and development is below par.


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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 1:47 pm 
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The list is not good enough and the u12 game plan ONCE AGAIN , not only last night but do people recall wen north kicked the last 4 goals of the game , rd 1 when tigers should have beaten us again, other words the writing has been on wall and good teams show how far behind we are .


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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 1:53 pm 
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Sidefx wrote:
Well wasn't that fun......not!

However, it's not really as bad as it feels and we need to keep this in perspective.
Brisbane is a very good side, top of the table and premiership contenders.
They have a ton of talent across all lines and have drafted/traded in great players at the ends of their career as well as at the start.
They have also done this to play a certain game plan with defined roles and made hard decisions on their list deficiencies.

Voss so far has done the right thing in developing the game plan to be more controlled and with more deliberate ball movement to sure up our defensive game.
At the end of round 7 we were the 3rd least scored against team and has so far solved an issue we had last season.
The issue is that we didn't trade/draft right last season for him to be able to implement that style of play and then hurt teams going the other way.
For me he needs to stick to this game plan until mid season and if he can't get it to work then try the rush forward at all costs style again.

Last season the coaching, player development and recruiting teams all made an error, they looked for other reasons than the midfield depth and talent to try and fix our core issues. We needed quick skilful inside mids, another bonafide ruck and a small forward.
You just had to look how stacked the Brisbane midfield was even without 2 very important players for them, Dunkley had a day out.
So with this being said we had no real reason other than organic development and uninjured players to assume we would be better than what we were last season.
Definitely not a top 4 side and as I alluded to preseason we would still struggle to remain in the 8, while still hoping that was not the case of course.

Acres had a shocker last night, if you thought otherwise please have a time-out. That second quarter he cost us a shot on goal, kicked one out on the full, gave the ball back to a player coming out of defence that cost us a goal and then at the start of the 3rd gave up one again.......but wait he still kicked the ball to another Lions player 40m out from goal, lucky he missed - total 19pts directly and a team high of 7 clangers.
That is not what you trade a mature player in to fix an "issue" with our wings, that's momentum killing stuff and contagious as well.
Hollands the other "required" wing needs a rest, I still think he will be a good player for us but both he and Acres last night offered very little more to LOB and Cottrell last season IMO. It's time to stop with the sugar coating, if we want to make finals put the players in the team that will get us there and rest the ones that need resting.
And I know he is a kid, but last time I checked we were just outside the 8 last season pushing to make finals, not a development year.
Acres 57.1% Kicking efficiency and Hollands 53.8%.

Walsh had a shocker, 36.4% Kicking Efficiency and although both he and Docherty (55.6% KE) competed, their drive forward was not what you'd expect from players of that quality. Saad had a game to forget also with 64.3% KE, so with all the players that are supposed to provide the outside run and drive off of half back through the middle, they all had a terrible game.
The other glaring obvious shortfall was at Half Forward/Forwards. We really need Owies in our side.
JSOS was having a blinder to begin with but fell off and the other two key forwards were being owned, this is when we needed the smalls to step up and well.......they didn't.
If you look at Brisbane their smalls were dangerous and they have a very good forward line and in the end that was the difference.

So then the real question becomes, what do we do.
Well, as I said earlier scratch all we have trained for this season and go back to last years game plan (which would not be great IMO) or start to be more creative with our roles.
Acres for his lack of kicking ability knows how to find the ball, so let's try him in the middle rotating on the wing with Cottrell.
Acres has good hands, he's a Dow with a defensive side and a tank, let's try him and Cottrell inside and see what they can offer.
Hewett and Ed have been up and down so far so why not give them a rest or put them in the sub role.
Walsh needs to play himself back into form so he should be placed on the other wing for a couple of games, possibly rotating with Doc, Saad or the other two.
Or it may be time to consider, Binns, Boyd and even LOB to make a statement if nothing else to one or two positions (depending on how they play today of course).
Kennedy needs to be back in the middle with possible rotations up forward, with Crippa possibly doing the same.
We had the same amount of inside 50s so we need some players to get in there and lock the ball in, apply pressure and try and create some opportunities out of nothing.
A lot of our issues stem from a break down in the middle, either we are not quick enough or apply enough pressure or can't be damaging with our delivery moving forward.......the same as last year.
All this being said, Voss won't make many changes and TBH probably shouldn't, our top players need a chance to make this right.
And although I think we are still missing a few required players, as a whole we should still have a reasonable year and hopefully make finals, we just need to tweak a few things and try some new things to keep up with the other top 8 teams.........these will be the things that will make us win more games.

And this week at training - kick, kick, kick, kick and more kicking.

Sorry for the long post.

Good post
As I said before this club plugs gaps year in year out with overrated over hyped average players
Acres has been a turn over merchant for years
His kicking and decision making skills are crap
Always have been
Do we recruit him for 3 even if he only cost us a third
rounder. Yep because our wings were a problem last year. Hollands looks ok
Saad as I have said repeatedly is a one trick pony in his third season With us
Has pace and a penetrating left foot as we know but it’s not hard if you’re an opposition coach. Just man him up when he has that second link kick like last night and that’s it. He doesn’t defend anyway
He coughed it up in the third centering it.
Opposition coaches have figured out how to nullify Saad’s effectiveness.
So Voss surely can change his role playing him on a wing. Cincotta looks ok to play Saads role in defence
His only getting $650000 a season over 5 years
Make him earn it
I like the idea of working Cripps and Kennedy through mid/halforward
JOS can take the occasional nice mark but imo isn’t up to it
Definitely need more pressure to lock it in our forward half
Kennedy and Cripps up there will help this
The club also needs to give DeKoning a full 10 games as our ruckman
If he doesn’t want to stay trade him for at least one first rounder
Pitto tries hard but is b grade


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PostPosted: Sat May 06, 2023 1:56 pm 
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Stefchook wrote:
Also thought McGovern was pretty good last night.

Got plenty of the ball but so he should playing as a loose man in defence
He still has no ideas at times. The handball in the second quarter which resulted in a Lions goal was pathetic
So overrated


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