We still talking about Campo? He is gone. Much more interested in how Walker, T - Bird etc are going to go this year.


It been a while since a 'bash' Whitters thread has appeared..........

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I thought verbs was referring to Stevens shouldering more responsiblility after Francou got injured

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Kade Simpson getting 22 games this year is more than enough compensation with respect to Campo's past efforts these last few years.

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I'm gonna sound like Synbad here … but if Campo was the leader Stevens said then a) we're in deep doo-doo (okay, so we already know that) and b) Campo should have bloody led, instead of cracking the sads with the coach and asking for a leave pass.

As for the reasons why players leave clubs, well who really cares why, players act the way players do, sometimes you lose when a player leaves, and sometimes you win.

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Yeah, cos we all know he's fat.

And, um.........he's got freckles. Don't you know anyone with freckles is some sort of loser, or something....ay?

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Campo, HAmill and bagging Whitts...
This thread could run 60 or 70 pages!

I agree with everything Stevens said! It's exactluy what you want to hear....
"Campo's gone and I for one am going to work harder in the midfield and as a leader"

That's what it says, no bagging, no whinging, no excuses....and says to the rest of the team "who's with me?!"

I'm happy with that ESPECIALLY as a public comment.

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Yeah, and I hear Goddard wants out of Mooorabbin too.

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Who???

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That's where I disagree.

A club selects a player based on certain qualities / characteristics.

The club offers that player a contract which he accepts and fulfills. Now if that player was shite and didn't pull his wait do you think the club would care what he did, nor would a club care what the player felt if they wanted too not renew a contract, I think not.

Like it or not Stevens at Port was probably a win / win, Stevens was recruited and developed / played in an environment that had a winning culture, particularly over recent years, and in return Stevens gave them good service.

Now as a supporter you would hope a player would stay, but at the end of the day, just because a club selects you and nurtures you, as long as you fulfill your contractual obligatoon that is the calculated risk they take choosing an interstate player.

Neither right nor wrong, but an observation

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I don't get it. What exactly are you trying to say?

Using the above theory, since Camporeale's contract had expired, it was well within his rights to leave. That's irrelevant to the discussion being had, namely that if Stevens was to ark up about Camporeale leaving he would be a right royal hypocrite. Luckily he didn't, is not one, and nor should he be.

Troy Bond returning home wasn't the reason he left Carlton.

He left because he cracked it when he was dropped, for Campo, for the 1995 Grand Final. Tried to get some Derek Kickett style sympathy.

We received hickmott in return and finished miles in front

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Hmm, Kouta talks up Campo in the press and is bagged, Stevens talks up Campo in the press and is praised?

...and thats why we have the wrong blokes around the club...and wont get anywhere till they retire and the mentality becomes a winners "@#$%&! everybody!!!"attitude...

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I think Nick was being a good diplomat and saying the right things that a prospective captain should..
I wasnt overly taken with Stevens form last season and for me he still has to prove he is worthy of 500K a year and the captains position if offered and I think this year will be a testing one for him.
I think the difference between Hamill, Campo and Stevens will be seen over the next year or two when Stevens comes up for contract renewal and has to resist temptation of other offers or the lure of more speedy success...Hamill is a low life who went for the money, Campo stayed but bludged for the last part of his career and took advantage of the clubs lack of talent, he wasnt the only one but thats what he did...
Nick Stevens leaving Port doesnt have anything to do with what he does at carlton and I will judge his character on what he does with us in the future..unlike the other two he has the opportunity to do the right thing and earn his money on a consistent basis and show that he has a bit more character than the other two...

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I reckon thats a shocker of a title. Reading that I thought Stevens had unloaded on our former star back pocket player, or flanker as suggested in another thread.

Instead Stevo comes across pretty well I reckon, trying hard to be civil and probably even goes a bit too far if anything.

I agree with Elwood though, injury or not he had a few games in 2005 where he didn't get near it with some heavy tagging. We have to learn to block over the pre-season to help him but even when he got the ball I dont think he was as damaging as he was in 2004. Look at this:

2005: avge possessions - 21.8; goals 13.17.
2004: 23.6 possessions, 9.9 goals

His 2005 average dropped a bit not for lesser good games but for more lesser games if you know what I mean; he had 9 games with sub 20 possessions including 2 games at 13 or less.

Yes stevo fans I know he cops it at times but we need Stevo up at 20 touches a game, each game.

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I actually reckon that there were more than a few occasions last season when Campo outperformed Nick Stevens, even if Stevens did suffer from illness and injury etc. There of course were games in which Stevens played better than Campo but I think that Stevens, Kouta etc genuinely believe that losing Campo will be a loss to us and I agree with them.

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Agreed - he is still a quality player, he was just frustratingly inconsistent last year, and it appeared to me that he was a little unmotivated. I'm sure that won't be the case this year.....

Our juniors in the backline will be a little confused as there will be no-one for them to handball to.

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