What if Paddy Dow gets selected and plays absolute rubbish in his orange socks? It could spell the end of Talking Carlton.

Not so bad for the ad revenue?

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My goodness how quickly we forget. Our wings need to be running machines and you want to test McGoverns hamstrings by running him on the wing? No way I would play McGovern on the wing. His presence down back gives more flexibility to our backline and enables coverage when the opposition moves their forwards around.

Makes sense. Thanks Farmer.

Hollands is still running his 15kms per game.
Times have changed Inguess. I’m glad the fitness guys didn’t stop Camporeale playing every game in 95 and end with a premiership medal.

It’s a well known fact The wing can be a thankless task. A lot of running back n forth to help backs and apply pressure and options in the forwardline and filling in holes to block the lead lane, you don’t get stats for that.

Like you say, the great thing is we have Cottrell in the wings to play wing if and when Hollands is “rested”.

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100 point win. Voss states for quarter complete and consistent effort.
Unless injuries including general soreness are in play, I'd say NO CHANGE, no matter who is available.

There’s no mob hanging here cru. Relax.

You’ve obviously read the posts above AND the post match discussion in his last 2 games. He is part of the future but his last 2 games he’s looked lost and wasn’t effective as he was earlier. Maybe his spot shouldn’t be judged by his last 2 games. But 2 kicks for zero goal v Saints and 6 kicks for 1 goal v Crows has been the discussion, not his previous 16 games. So…

Not 18 good games in a row, but 18 good games for a 19yo, but his last two games is what the debate has been. That hasn’t been the case for Holland.

WTF has Holland got to do with Motlop anyway?

Hollands has been running impressively all season, 15 kms per game, Motlop isn’t. Holland has been doing his job on the wing and Motlop has been quiet of late. I think you’re spilling tears and trying to make a point in favour of the return of Motlop to the FP. I trust the MC. If they pick him, fine.

But go back and have a look at Motlops last 2 games and the opinions posted. That’s all. Theres those who make a case for him to remain and a different thought on the flip side, but there’s no doubting the discussion re Motlop has been going on longer and separate from the Holland discussion for the last 2 weeks.

We all love Motlop. He will bounce back.

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Following a 100 point win, I just can’t see any change to last weeks side unless it’s forced by injury.

I’d like to see Cottrell in for Fisher. If it’s Motlop for Fisher I will not be surprised.

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Cottrell played limited minutes Saturday so my guess is he will have another week

Motlop for Honey is my call as only change
Kennedy may swap with Ed
If Fisher was to be dropped it may be for Fogarty who was travelling player. Can't see it as Voss loves Fisher
If Hollands is rested I reckon Boyd comes in. He was very good on the weekend and as a leader. Docherty can go to a wing and Cerra stays permanant mid instead of going back

As I have said we now have options. I don't care who we pick as long as it's on form. Now we are finally finding it hard to pick a side instead of filling holes.

Did they have fitness guys then? Certainly didn't "rest" players. Nearly 30 years ago. We have been crap for way too long

Yeah , no change for me . Maybe swap Ed and BamBam ....................... Brisbane are a physical side . Match them in that , and i think we more than match them , we win . Don't care if its a fast game , slow game , doesn't matter . Go in harder than them for the ball we win .

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You’ve lost me mate… I posted once & didn’t give it a second thought.

No matter. I can see you’ve got yourself in a tangle again. You’re not alone there.

FWIW, I listed those ins & outs alphabetically.

I think Fisher is horrible & will list him as an out automatically. He should’ve been omitted before the pitchforks came out.

Hollands, imo, will want a freshen up before the Collingwood game. He may have already had it given the quality of opposition on the weekend. There’s not much call for a fat side winger when you’re +70 uncontested marks. That R10 fixture is not just another game.

I think Cottrell played well enough to come into the side. He was ‘breasting the tape’, as they say, so I’m optimistic about his recovery. He’s another that will be important in that R10 game.

I think our best forward mix is Charlie, Harry, Durdin, Motlop & Jack. I can’t find a spot for Honey with a full list to pick from. The difference between Motlop & Honey is that Motlop buries that banana in the last 1/4 100 times out of 100 & doesn’t look back. There’s only one side in the comp that lets you take a mulligan that close to goal.

I’d play both Walsh & Cottrell as half forwards in our best side. Acres, Hollands, Docherty are probably our best transition defenders. There’s a bevy of intercept and relaunch options behind them that just need a bit of pressure on the kick coming in.

I thought Honey may as well keep his place for another week while the young bloke is being managed. If he doesn’t need it, then sayonara Honey.

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I linked them because they both represent the future and have shown the desire and talent to succeed and they should be given every opportunity to develop in the ones. Who was that statless flower you were saying should continue to develop in the seniors because he's good looking and has nice big muscles? Sweetie? Something like that.



Isn't what? Isn't has been running ... 15 kms per game? You're a bit tick yeah. Have you got any friends who know a bit about the game - ask them why a winger can run 15 kms a game and a forward pocket won't. I'd explain it to you myself but I can't be bothered with block letters and the See David, See David run style needed to connect with you.

Here's a little something from your friend Bobby (sorry, not Frank's Bobby Brown):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3r-7s0HzdE

BRISBANE veterans Dayne Zorko and Daniel Rich are set to miss up to three weeks after suffering injuries against Fremantle on Saturday.

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i hope so. weren’t they return from injury ins last time we played lions?

Confirmed by Fagan on AFL 360 both will miss 2-3

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Billy bongo is a tough guy with the keyboard. No need to get personal with Bondi, he contributes, is passionate. We’re all equals here and all knowledgeable.

You linked them. That suited you. I get it. Good onya. You missed the point. You’re making up stuff.

The question was raised by a poster why is Motlop auto selection? I merely referred to the discussion that took place on this forum before he was suspended with suggestions Motlop’s output was on the decline. I looked at the numbers and bothered to present them and the facts say as a forward pocket he wasn’t getting kicks nor kicking goals. It’s a question about doing his role. We all know he’s a small forward.

There is no doubt Holland is playing his role as wing running 15 kms presenting himself where he needed and doesn’t seem to be fatigued. He’s performing his role.

I’m wondering why there’s a need to give Holland a rest and that’s where that discussion ends. I totally get the posters who believe Motlop could do with some time in the VFL if he is not playing well, where I also believe Honey should be developing his game.

The point I made about Honey is he is the 5th choice HF because of injuries and Voss stated Honey came into the side as a like for like swap. Ie Honey is filling in because of our injury list, highlighting the impact injury is having on the team.

Do some proper linking. The collar bone is not connected to the thigh bone, but if you say there’s a link, sure it is with your creative license.

I have no doubt Motlop will be our best small forward. But is he out of form? That’s the discussion.

I haven’t posted this but I believe carrying 3 small forwards who are not performing (and 2 of them are babies)are too many to carry and prefer the experienced small, Fisher, to make way.

Repeat. As for Honey, he’s only a temporary plug till Owies is back. He’s only playing because of injury. He is a solid unit so can handle the big hits with the big boys during his short tenure, but only a kid shouldn’t written off.

Sorry but your “Something like that” to describe the above is way off the facts, and you’re making up rubbish to belittle and discredit and sadly doesn’t make you or your post smart. No need for that.

Let’s stick to the facts and leave the linking made up stories for the kids. Leave me alone and let’s stick to footy without degrading posters and players.

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No tangles here. It’s all pretty straight forward to me. No agenda. I don’t disagree with your suggestions.

I didn’t circle round 10 and think about resting players and having our best team available. Our experience with injury doesn’t let me feel that’s likely to happen, but I get it re Holland resting before that important HUGE game.

I met a few Carlton people in Adelaide and It seems the consensus was Owies was , is, our best small forward in terms of forward pressure, tackling in F50 and importantly goal kicking. He is due back too.

I don’t want Honey in the team in 2023 unless he is what we need in finals ( and right now he’s not). I want our best team playing. Injury has given Honey an opportunity. I have 4 players ahead of him for the HF. He’s not a small forward.

I’m sure Andrew Russell is doing everything in his powers to have a better version of Martin (than the injury prone one we have become accustomed to). Fingers crossed. He must be getting close to a return.

So glad we are getting players like Cottrell, Owies and Boyd back in the fold…..and likely to put their hands up for round 10.

One week at a time.

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I'm sure Bondi doesn't need your muscle. He's a stirrer from way back and can take care of himself.

You miss the point. Not here to protect Bondi. I take offence at personal attacks