You all need to chill on this

You don't know !!

Maybe he was told the week prior he was on the edge of the team and maybe he put his hand up to play back

Correct. By my calculation we had 10 marks inside 50 against the Saints for 1 goal! And that was kicked by a midfielder (Cerra)
Harry is terribly out of form. Lacking confidence significantly. Dropping easy chest marks. Attacking the ball up the ground but hesitant when inside 50.
Our mids were good against the Saints IMHO. They gave us every opportunity to build a winning lead by dominating play in the first half but our back half personnel and forward conversion cost us the game.

Voss is coming in for plenty of criticism but some of our strategies worked well. Wilkie had minimal effect in the first half (except when Jack kept inexplicably taking him to the contest), Ed did a job on Sinclair and forced the Saints to put him into the midfield. We were the first team to dominate them at contested possession this year and our centre clearances were back to a solid level.

IMHO, our backline failed on several levels. The Saints loaded up their forward line with small runners and we dissent have the personnel to counter it. Hill, Higgins, Butler, Gresham killed us with 8 goals/goal assists between them. Our options were Kennedy, McGovern, Cincotta, Cowan and Newman. Nic Newman has had a great year but he was poor on Sunday. His turnovers especially were very costly on the scoreboard. The Kennedy move was a MC blunder but the loss of Docherty, Saad, Williams and Boyd was significant and structurally pulled our defence apart.
I keep hearting the Saints had plenty of injuries. Out of interest, who are they? King? Who else would be a top 10 player in their team? The rest are all fringe players.

Andrew Russell has a big job ahead of him. We need continuity in our structure. Saad, Docherty and Boyd are best 22 at the moment. Martin comes in for criticism from some but he's our best pressure forward when fit. Owies has also become a best 22 player.
Cowan is a good prospect but he needed a rest weeks ago.
I can't believe we're already getting the ridiculous sack Voss calls. We led the top team at half time and really, we should have been several goals up. Had it not been for the Kennedy/Butler match up, the Saints were largely impotent. Get something back near a reasonable structure and then see how we go.

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A lot of angst on here this morning about Kennedy.
How do we know he is not carrying a small injury and his form is down as a result.
I also highly doubt it had as much to do with him playing down back (out of position) last week, that was a coaching error, it is more probable that maybe the match up's don't require him in this week.
The thing is we all don't know.
With Doc and Saad back there is no room to put a mid down there.
Plus Kennedy could still be the sub.
As for Dow, his disposals are high but how many of them are quality ones in a much slower league? (I seen a couple of times last week where he still just throws the ball on the boot).
And who does he replace if we are possibly dropping Kennedy because Saad and Doc are back?

It's perplexing on here sometimes, 1 minute people are call for Voss's head and he needs to send a message and when he does it's the "wrong" message in their opinion.
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
How about we cut the bloke some slack and wait to see how we are playing with a few more key players back in the side.

That’s it Side’ee….

what the hell do most of us know…!

all i know is i know nothing*…!


kindest regards tommi






* cheers dude…!

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I thought of this when I read your comment Tommi.

Fair enough!
I would still like to hear discussion on the benefits of the "ins" rather than supposition and inuendo on why someone wasn't selected.

I'll have a crack for you carnie.

Doc and Saad are a bit self explanatory.
We get some drive, speed and dare off of the backline making our rebounding game quicker and provide more dangerous movement into F50.
Bringing in Kemp releases Young into the ruck to increase the first ball use of our mids hopefully getting more clearances and scoring opportunities as a result.
It also allows JSOS more time to move up the ground and be the link kick to Harry or Charlie in the F50 (hopefully closer to goals).

The only other position that really needs addressing is a small forward, Fisher is not good as we know but who replaces him?
Only Carroll who is a mid could do the job but he has only had one good week in the VFL so it could quite possibly be like for like anyway.
And if Fisher is not performing he can sit on the pine and let Honey have a good crack at it.
Plus we don't have Motlop this week either, both very lucky because of this.
I'd guess both will be dropped next week with Owies also potentially returning from injury.

Thanks BV. Always appreciate your view and as I didn't get to the game, providing some reasonable assessment enables me to take a breath.

Ah but there are those that don't know what they don't know and therefore what they don't know becomes what everyone should know. Yaknow!

Need to see more dare and speed with our ball movement, especially from half back. Saad and Doc should assist with this. If we can’t take the game on and move the ball effectively against this mob, not sure who we will be able to do it against.

Personal availability is crucial to every team in the competition, especially the skillful and quick players as soon as a few are unavailable , a teams’s potential is stifled , it has happened always.
A long, dure season ahead yet and our outcome may be totally different and more positive closer to finals.
Having said that, come end season Recruiting & Coaching must be refreshed & scrutinized seriously.

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Good posts by BV and Sidefx at the top of this page. BV's observations are consistent with both what we saw on the pitch last weekend, and the decisions made by the match committee. We supporters have a tendency to take a reward/punishment view to selections, but that is only one part of the equation, and should be used judiciously (TDK being a possible example).

I was at the game last week and watching Ed Curnow was hard. He just couldn't keep up and players were running past him.

What made Ed a very good player was him ability to work to a contest, tag and/or do the hard stuff and just keep running. He can't do that consistently anymore. In a side that is struggling for speed and kicking skills Ed is a major issue

I'd like to know what Voss see's in him?

Fogarty & Kennedy flying with team. Kennedy sub
TDK & O'Brien playing reserves

beat me to it

Fogarty will be our sub on Saturday, Kennedy the carry over emergency has also been flown over.

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Exactly ... all of it.

I found it easy to find 5-6 positives from last week's performance. We should have beaten the saints. Bad kicking is bad footy.

Newman is a better kick than he showed last week. Really cost us 2 goals.
Harry, Charlie and Jack missed 8 shots at goal.
We didn't have the personnel available in the backline to start offence let alone quell their smalls.

We are getting our troops back.
Saad and Doc back. Defence already looks great with them.

Owies and Martin not too far away too. Forward line will look great with them.

Bring on the Eagles.

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Agree Sidey

Owies may be a surprise return next week like Doc was this week. Russell is under a lot of heat, but only playing fit players.
So Honey and Fisher are on notice this week, especially Honey who is warming the seat for Owies, and Fish has Cottrell breathing over his shoulder.
If those 2 can perform on the big round ground, they will help our dysfunctional forwardline.

I just hope Kemp doesnt have to man up Darling, and if he does, Darling doesn't maul him. Hate it when Kempy is matched up on bigger players.

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Obviously a tagging role.

I reckon he's too slow too. I know he runs hard from contest to contest.

He has a role to play, but if our Midfield insides click with the outside mids and start to dominate contested ball, and supply good ball forward, I don't think there will be a need for a tagger in most games. We did Ok without him in first half of 2022 and the last couple of rounds when we played our best footy for the year.

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