Was it just me or did it feel like every time we got a free kick and advantage it was Ed that had the ball and resulted in a turnover or hack kick forward at best

Well let's hope for a loss then, as the internet's leading Paddy Dow FC message board.

The last thing we need is another unaccountable midfielder. Ed can tag Sinclair, shut down one of their other mids who get off the hook (LDU, Coniglio). Who else do we have that can do that? Not Dow.
Ed definitely has his limitations but he makes sacrifices for the team that no other player on our list will make. Plus in red time of quarters, he's the only player on the ground running to make an exit option for our defence. Until our midfield get their mojo back, Ed is a definite IMO.

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I don’t disagree with your characterisation of his attributes, but I don’t see the logic in having him as a reserve if he’s never used to replace injured midfielders in the AFL team. He’s been consistently available last year and this year and we’ve had plenty of injuries to our mids, but we’ve never use him. So why bother having him on the list?

Ed is a very good defensive mid at AFL level, below average offensively though. Dow is below average defensively in the VfL, and barely average offensively at AFL. I’m not sure I’d be comparing them by their roles.

Sometimes the hysteria on here about LOB, Plowman and Dow is entertaining to say the least.

Firstly if anyone doesn't see this game as anything less than the need to make amends for last week's performance, they have rocks in their heads.
The players from last week will come out firing and therefore is not the time to make massive changes to the team, even though myself and others would "like" to see that.
Logic says, back the players to make amends.

We have lost Doc, Saad and Boyd is still not available, therefore we have lost all run from defence.
I believe that this is a hole Acres could fill for the interim and if he does we need more run on the wing.......cue LOB.
If gov comes in he is an intercept defender/linking player not a lockdown defender..........cue Plowman/Cincotta, one experienced, one debutant.
The only other question for defence then is Kemp and I guess that will depend on match ups or Gov actually getting up on the day.
But, back to the first paragraph, this is a redemption game and experience may be the difference at the selection table.

As for Dow, although he had a great game last week in the VFL he still went missing for most of the 4th quarter and some of his defensive efforts still need to be worked on to push out the other inside mids, including Ed.
However, I would still prefer to see him in the team over Fisher, but maybe the match-ups aren't right.

And if you did watch the VFL on the weekend you can see why Cincotta has been named, his intensity was great and he fills a needed hole.
LOB for all his haters, was hitting targets by foot and was everywhere and deserves the call up if there is a need for more outside run.
Binns, even though his stats were good he plays more of a contested style on the wing like Acres and a lot of his disposals were rushed and not as effective/clean as LOB.
He still needs more time in the twos to keep building but he is already heaps better than at the start of the year, he's coming along nicely and I hope to see him debut soon also.
Either way, once again it's a selection issue of experience vs another debutant as well as an outside link player vs a contested clearance player, which we have a ton of in the middle.

Personally, I trust Voss knows what he needs to beat the Aints and if that is LOB, Plowman and Fish.........then so be it.
Let's go baggers.

Cincotta is in - he will make his debut this week

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Hopefully replaces Plowman.

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Better options than Plowman.........

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Just when we think things can't get worse:
Umpires
Alex Whetton (19), Simon Meredith (21), Nathan Williamson (22), Nathan Toner (25)

Always makes me shiver when we get Nathan Williamson (22). I thought he was ok a few weeks ago but crucified us last year.....

They rarely line up the way they’re named, but Acres at half back is a good solution for the missing Saad.

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Same as me. I have always disliked them, even when they were crap.

Dow was given a one year contract extension for 2023
To not even consider him ahead of O’ Brien and Honeyis farcical

Should be be selecting players on how or when they received contract extensions?

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After showing some promiseHoney has gone downhill
OBrien is simply not AFL standard
Dow has been very ordinary at AFL level but he has been the best player in the twos
We are crying out for some leg speed
Why give a guy a contract and not pick him when it’s warranted
With Saad out we have less leg speed

As a question Keogh, did you watch the VFL on the weekend?