"Carlton has opted to delist three of its star footballers after the club failed to qualify for the finals for a tenth consecutive season"

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"If everyone is moving forward together, then success takes care of itself" - Henry Ford

Cooked - 2 seasons spent on the sidelines is enough evidence of that.

It's a shame, because the guy obviously has talent, but he's just not worth the risk anymore.

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"If everyone is moving forward together, then success takes care of itself" - Henry Ford

We only saw him a couple of times, but geez, he brought the energy.

Unfortunately, we never got to see it in the depths of winter.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

Dow is contracted for 2023

I doubt we'd get much in a trade either.

Might be worth persisting with him, rather than taking a token third round pick.

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Nothing token about third rounders.

Granted, list management is a far cry from an episode of Barter Kings, but a pick in the 40s will have value to someone.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

read that Austin watching macsey from Adelaide .Chasing a player who is former p6 (have nt we learned ) and can not get a senior game. Austin again going about it the easy way . What picks were plowman and setters for example.

Get Harris Andrews?

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

I was surprised about Newnes only b/c Voss seemed to keep picking him.
I’m ambivalent on Dow - happy to keep or delist depending on what we could replace him with and what Voss has in mind (ie if he has made Dow a special project to rebuild him through 2022 with an eye to 2023…).
I’m happy to trust Voss. He knows what he wants. And he knows what he needs.


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What's your point? Pittonet wasn't getting a game at the Hawks. Nor could Josh Kennedy before he went to the Swans. Lewis Young and Pat Lipinsky couldn't nail down a game at Bulldogs.
Or is it the early draft picks that are your issue? Cerra was a pick 5. He was an excellent player for us this year.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

I think he’s saying we need more beards and tatts

Holy shit. I hadn't picked the similarity!!

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

I understand Tatts….

but beads…geez i don’t know…!


kindest regards tommi






although thinking about it…it’s starting to
make some sense now…!

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

Beads? Whatever. I'd draw the line at flowers in the hair though.

Only if you are doing a preseason trip to San Francisco.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

VFL team was the youngest each week also? Or was I hearing things last week in the telecast?

Seems to be a lot of assumptions that Dow wants to stay and is happy with his current spot on the list, rather than look for opportunities elsewhere.

Dow should be looking elsewhere, be crazy not to. Could probably jag a 2 year deal from someone

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Congratulations CK95

1 year deal for Ed.

Surprising.