Fisher's 5 kicks didnt really do him any favours.
I know you're looking at his season as a whole, but he had a lot of lame games.

Durdin did show elite speed in early rounds, so it may just be another preseason to set him up.
Motlop...agree...can he improve his speed? I think he can. He's 19yo, but he wont be express.

I agree 3 midgets at the max. Need stronger and quicker players who will also bring defensive pressure.

TBH, I envy the Top 8 teams with their small forwards. All of them. We've got nothing that comes close to their star small forwards.

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I have the same feeling too.

They will chop some of the injury prone players...just too much noise to ignore.

I'm a Cuningham fan, but have no idea of what condition he is in.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Ideally we keep a MSD spot open for someone like him to show something in the first half of season.
MSD seems to be growing in importance given the number of players who have come in via it and made an impact

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Reminds me of Andrew Philips . Highly talented player who's career was destroyed by injury ......................our Coach did say there were going to be some unpopular decisions made and i got a feeling also that David will be front and centre in those decisions .

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To be fair Vossy and his coaching panel have made assessment of the playing throughout the season, so
We’ll soon know, however cap space has to be created to trade in some vital missing clogs.
Our game has become very competitive, supporters are less tolerant too.
Waiting a decades for success is over.

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Our depth got injured as well.

Injuries were a major part in us not making finals

Cogs as well.

Of the expiring 2022 contracts - I'd delist the following:

Newnes
Setterfield
Cuningham
Fogarty
Parks
McDonald
Williamson*

I'd give the following 1 year contracts:

E.Curnow
Stocker
Fogarty
S.Durdin
Honey
Hayes
Owies
Boyd
Marchbank

I'd look to trade out Paddy Dow for a draft pick. If we can get an end of third rounder for Jones as compensation, I'd be after another one around the same mark. The Hawks pick 49 would be about right. Picks 10, 28, 49 and 55 would do. Perhaps part with the latter and the two picks in the 60s for something better.

Too soon? This is a coping mechanism. I've been clean since June 3, 2000 so doing drugs with CK95 is tempting but not an option.

Sam de Koning? Jordan de Goey? Latham van der Meer?

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Congratulations CK95

My two cents above. Cottrell & Akuei are coming out of contract too. Cottrell should get another year, it’s doubtful that Akuei will.

Does Philp have a year left on his contract? If so, it’s the only thing that saves him…

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It's never as good as it looks and it's never as bad as it seems.

very clever!

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my last one was rubbish

This club has a bad habit of chasing Injury Prone players. Just goes to show how poor our medical team is. They need to be all Sacked!


Marchbank: You know he is going to go down after 1-2 Games and miss half a year

Martin: Plays one great Game and looks like a Million dollar player, then goes down with injury and disappears

McGovern: started his career with the blues on Fire- Marking everything off half back, then broke down

Williams: Same as above... Very injury prone

Kennedy: fringe player before he finally came Good, then he remembered " oh no, i am Injury prone "

Cripps: Has been playing with one leg and one Shoulder for 4 years now and no one in the medical team seems to be able to fix him

Docherty: not of his own fault- full Credit for bouncing back


That's 7 Senior players, not to mention the long term injuries to key midfielders like Cunnigham and Curnow. Its a miracle we even made it to 9th

Nick Holland…

and many AFLW players too i guess…!


kindest regards tommi

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Agree with most of that but admit I like Stocker and would probably offer him 2 years but at same time if he has no other suitors then 1 year is fine.
I thought Boyd had already re-signed for 2 years?
Depending on state of his body and if there is no limit to number of players we could move to rookie list, I may consider moving DC to the rookie list on a 1 year deal. Largely because as stated he has AFL qualities we currently lack.
I love Ed. He's been one of my favourites over the past 10 years ago but I think his body is telling him that his time at the top level is up. If he is still capable of playing at a lower would consider putting him on our VFL list as captain.
Parks I don't rate so would likely delist.

Thanks for the input boys . What it tells me is next year has started already .

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I don't disagree with a lot of what's been commented but since we are looking to trade in winger(s) then keeping both Newnes and Hayes doesn't make sense so one needs to make way.
Cunningham as already stated has exactly what we lack so I would be offering 1 year even as a rookie. He is coming back from a knee and some players take longer to get the strength back into the leg muscles and then settle back into a training regime that works - worth giving him another preseason and then see what plays out next year.
Setterfield appears to be heading to 1 year on Rookie list (see previous post)
Fogarty - goes
Only 1 of McDonald or Durdin stay
Williamson has already gone
Ed Curnow given his age and the injuries to retire.


That's 5 changes and as many as I would expect
Parks to stay if we do not need extra delisting otherwise can go.

Agree on what you say re Hayes and Newnes. Guess it depends on who we bring in and that will determine whether they survive. Am assuming Hayes was on a 6 month contract and not 18 but could be wrong.
There has been talk of Lachlan Sholl from Adelaide coming in and potentially filling the wing void. Was reading up Sholl's bio from his draft year and based solely on that not sure how he is better than LOB. Looks very similar unless he actually is an elite kick. Otherwise issues with contested work and winning his own footy. Defensive side of his game etc.

https://central.rookieme.com/afl/player/lachlan-sholl/

I would consider letting go of the following:

Trade -
Dow - some value
O'Brien - some value, easily replaced

Delist
E.Curnow - Age
McDonald - Sam Durdin is a better prospect
Fogarty - Not required
Williamson (gone)
Newnes - Age - Not required
Philp - mmmm just struggling to get on the park and impact has contract 2023
Akuei - Not required has contact for 2023


2023 Rookies
Cuningham - 1 year
Hayes - 1 year
Boyd - 1 year
Mirkov ????

I think Sam Durdin will replace Lewis Young as our KPP alongside Weiters by Round 1 2023.

It will be interesting if they keep all 3 on the list; Plowman, Kemp and Parks. Kemp would get my vote because of his age and upside still. Plowman and Kemp still have a contract into 2023

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/to-carlton-blues

Found this.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

We have a lot of confidence in Mirkov if we have him signed till end of 2024.

You're not a fan of Young? I think he panics with ball in hand but I also think he has almost gone past Weitering who looks slow and totally ballsed up late on Sunday failing to marshall the backline at the death.

I also think Boyd should be elevated to the main list. He is a goer and can run like the wind and we need players like this.