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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:30 pm 
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May be in the minority but id have thought the silvagni free was a bit of an unnecessary brain fade from the Navy Blue team

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:31 pm 
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kezza wrote:
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Saw this on another forum. Probably would have sealed it for us. Ridiculous free.
Still had it in our control but this type of crap doesn't help.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachme ... f.1486157/

What a terrible decision.
Changed the game.


Quainor pushes SOS into the other player.

But what sealed it was the ball went down the other end and they plucked a free kick against no one knows who for another block.

Goal taken FROM us, goal gifted TO them.

Crucial time momentum-wise.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:31 pm 
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The_Cranium wrote:
I'm moving past numb into @#$%&! angry now. We have so many dumb arse players with zero footy IQ.

Durdin ... what the @#$%&!?

Charlie 2.5 and [REDACTED] up snap after snap. You know what? These kicks don't hold up under pressure. When we needed you, you blew it.

22 weeks in the 8 and miss finals. That is [REDACTED]. Don't give me your be proud nonsense. We as fans have every right to be @#$%&! livid with this failure. Absolute failure. I don't care how much they tried. Cut it any way you like, we shit the bed and grabbed defeat from the jaws of victory.

The pain this club causes is fans is beyond a joke


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:33 pm 
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I am still blaming the orange socks.
It was the turning point of our season.
2 wins (WC and GWS) 6 losses since then.

Before then we were 10 and 4.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:37 pm 
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I am still blaming the orange socks.
It was the turning point of our season.
2 wins (WC and GWS) 6 losses since then.

Before then we were 10 and 4.

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Two games we are guaranteed to lose next year.
1 Before the bye, and, 2 The orange sock game.
Perhaps next year we should have the socks in the game before the bye.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:37 pm 
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Can't see anything in the Donstuie post I disagree with...
I have bad eye's and on Tapatalk I can't see Donstuie post at all

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:39 pm 
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Some of you may have noticed (unlikely) that I've been absent from TC this year, for various reasons I will not get into here.

But now seems like an appropriate time to pop my head out of my cave to give my overall impressions not just of today but this year in general.

In short, I see today as the end result of a season equal parts hubris, schadenfreude, arrogance, incompetence, unaccountability, stupidity and mental weakness.

"Who gives a shit about percentage? We won!"
After we gave up big leads earlier in the year to scrape over the line. Could've done with some of that today, eh? And people wonder why there's a perception that we're satisfied with mediocrity, or doing just enough.

"It's just bad luck it can't be helped" or "We're just cursed"
Any time yet another player goes down with a serious injury, hurts themselves at training or pulls out on the day of a game. How many years does this shit continue before bad luck simply doesn't @#$%&! cut it as an excuse anymore?

"We're focused on our process, and haven't even mentioned finals"
Is this why we only decide to show up in do-or-die games against top opposition but couldn't give less of a @#$%&! against weaker opposition (Adelaide, St Kilda, Gold Coast)? Do you think the team we played today weren't sold on the possibility of what they could achieve if they simply gave their all and played for each other, and not just "following a process"? Also, who the @#$%&! are we to expect to simply roll over anyone??

"We would've only been making up the numbers in finals anyway, better we lost"
If you think that a club that has been starved of finals for a decade would gain nothing from shooting that albatross, you've mastered the art of denial.

"We don't need [Player X] because of our no-dickheads policy"
I'm as guilty as anyone of this one, but maybe it's high time we injected some cauliflower into this team. And if we can't do it internally, maybe we need to find it somewhere else.

"Dropping a heart and soul player like [Player X] sends a bad message to the rest of the team"
@#$%&! em. If a player getting dropped is enough to make you drop your bundle, @#$%&! right off.

"The players are mentally prepared each week"
...

"We have strong leaders"
...

"Just wait until......."
Still @#$%&! waiting....

"The players are hurting right now"
Clearly not @#$%&! enough, and certainly not as much as we do. If that were the case, why do they continue to put themselves in positions to get hurt all over again? Get them to stand behind M1 in the Southern Stand and experience what the supporters have to endure because of their incompetence, laziness or @#$%&! ups. Instead of being escorted to the cocoon of the change rooms before retreating to their giant houses as they begin their mad Monday and holiday preparations. Or at least show us you @#$%&! hurt, and instead of giving a rehearsed interview look down the barrel of the camera and say "We let you down. We failed you. And we will do everything in our power to make sure this doesn't happen again.

"If you were offered 12-10 and 9th at the start of the year, you'd take that"
Not after an 8-3 start. KPI's in all facets of life need to be reviewed based on the situation at the time.

"They'll learn from this" or "This will burn them for next year"
They should be Harvard @#$%&! graduates with the amount of experiences they'll "learn from", or look like a suitless Darth Vader with the number of times they've "burned".

"We're still proud of what the boys have achieved"
8 @#$%&! years since the beginning of our latest rebuild, and we still can't even make finals. While on this topic...

"Look at Melbourne and Richmond, they missed finals and won a flag the next year"
Both teams made @#$%&! finals in the years before missing out!!!

"The umpires don't treat us any differently to other teams"
Exhibit A: Lynch last night
Exhibit B: What you saw today


I could go on and on...


So what is my point from all of these ramblings? All of the above have been uttered by players, coaches and supporters throughout the year (and prior), and all demonstrate a mindset based on excuses, lack of accountability and a satisfaction with mediocrity.

How can we expect actions to change if the narrative never does?

I don't have the answers, as none of us do. But I think we can all agree that as supporters and members we have nothing more to give.
At some point the talk needs to stop.
The excuses, platitudes and cliches need to stop.
They need to be replaced by ruthlessness and a demand for excellence in everything we do.
They need to be replaced by a dissatisfaction not only in missing finals, but in watching two other teams play for the @#$%&! flag.

I want to believe that the club has it in them to make this a reality, but forgive me if I need some more @#$%&! convincing.

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Outside of ‘the players are hurting’, ‘learn from this’ and ‘process’; I’m not sure I’ve heard much of that tripe coming out of the club. If your gripe is that fans say stupid things, then I agree with you.

‘Players don’t hurt as much as the fans’ is a load of bullocks too, btw.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:40 pm 
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If we didn't have the big 3rd quarter and kick and get 4 goals up we wouldn't be so filthy now.

The 8 goal 3rd quarter tells me we didn't throw the towel in and that we can respond.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:42 pm 
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0.6 to 5.1 in the last. McKay and Charlie main culprits 2.3 and 2.5 respectively. They can shove their Colemans where the sun don’t shine. Individual accolades don’t help the footy through the big posts. They need to understand the value of a goal and aim to get 70-80% of their shots through the big sticks.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:44 pm 
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Hornet wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Hornet wrote:
Can't see anything in the Donstuie post I disagree with...
I have bad eye's and on Tapatalk I can't see Donstuie post at all
Basically we're all cucks...

One way of putting it :lol:


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Outside of ‘the players are hurting’, ‘learn from this’ and ‘process’; I’m not sure I’ve heard much of that tripe coming out of the club. If your gripe is that fans say stupid things, then I agree with you.

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All of the above have been uttered by players, coaches and supporters throughout the year (and prior)



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‘Players don’t hurt as much as the fans’ is a load of bullocks too, btw.

Agree to disagree. Regardless, I can't fathom how they seem so content to put themselves back into those positions if they gave as much of a shit as us.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:46 pm 
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daggs001 wrote:
Saw this on another forum. Probably would have sealed it for us. Ridiculous free.
Still had it in our control but this type of crap doesn't help.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachme ... f.1486157/


wow

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:47 pm 
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BTW hi Sedat and congrats on the Dogs making the finals.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:51 pm 
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cecil89 wrote:
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Durdin was selfish. He saw Fish there. Just ignored him wanting to do God knows (I want to kick it longer just because I want to be the man) what but I'm sick of his little tough face. Kill the clock. Short target. You stupid cauliflower.


Was running backwards when Fisher was free.
Fine with criticism of his decision making, but you’ll never convince me it was selfishness.


Quite correct. Durdin was running backwards off his mark (as you should) when Fisher made the lead. I'm not sure who Durdin was trying to kick to. Could have been to McKay who was half free but the kick went badly over his head. Or he could have been expecting Charlie to lead into the pocket. So either poor kicking or poor communication. Either way I don't see why we should be given a young first year player a good kicking when there are much bigger fish to fry.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:53 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
Hornet wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Hornet wrote:
Can't see anything in the Donstuie post I disagree with...
I have bad eye's and on Tapatalk I can't see Donstuie post at all
Basically we're all cucks...

One way of putting it :lol:


cecil89 wrote:
Outside of ‘the players are hurting’, ‘learn from this’ and ‘process’; I’m not sure I’ve heard much of that tripe coming out of the club. If your gripe is that fans say stupid things, then I agree with you.

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All of the above have been uttered by players, coaches and supporters throughout the year (and prior)



cecil89 wrote:
‘Players don’t hurt as much as the fans’ is a load of bullocks too, btw.

Agree to disagree. Regardless, I can't fathom how they seem so content to put themselves back into those positions if they gave as much of a shit as us.



Surely, at most, you're only referring to some players.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:54 pm 
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BTW hi Sedat and congrats on the Dogs making the finals.


:grin:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:56 pm 
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Effes wrote:
daggs001 wrote:
Saw this on another forum. Probably would have sealed it for us. Ridiculous free.
Still had it in our control but this type of crap doesn't help.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachme ... f.1486157/


wow


SOJ clearly blocked the Cwood player. All he had to do was hold his ground. However, I'm not sure about the blocking free on Weiters soon after that which cost us a goal. BUt I haven't had a good look at it.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:56 pm 
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Effes wrote:
BTW hi Sedat and congrats on the Dogs making the finals.



C'mon now...surely Dogs' fans would preferred not to have made the finals, so their team can burn and learn over the summer.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:57 pm 
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billy_bongo wrote:
Effes wrote:
daggs001 wrote:
Saw this on another forum. Probably would have sealed it for us. Ridiculous free.
Still had it in our control but this type of crap doesn't help.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachme ... f.1486157/


wow


SOJ clearly blocked the Cwood player. All he had to do was hold his ground. However, I'm not sure about the blocking free on Weiters soon after that which cost us a goal. BUt I haven't had a good look at it.



Do you not think SOJ was pushed?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:58 pm 
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billy_bongo wrote:
Effes wrote:
daggs001 wrote:
Saw this on another forum. Probably would have sealed it for us. Ridiculous free.
Still had it in our control but this type of crap doesn't help.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/attachme ... f.1486157/


wow


SOJ clearly blocked the Cwood player. All he had to do was hold his ground. However, I'm not sure about the blocking free on Weiters soon after that which cost us a goal. BUt I haven't had a good look at it.


So it wasn't Quaynor that pushed SOJ into Cameron?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:02 pm 
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As far as i'm concerned our team busted there guts today . Gave it everything they had . But i must agree with a lot of you guys how bad our decision making was at crucial times . It was more than bad in fact atrocious . How you rectify that stuffed if i know . Where to from here ? is that astute poster " Effes " reminds us , the footy wheel continues to turn and you must up the ante" or plenty will go past you . Was the season a success or failure ? neither , but if we don't go on with it next year then you will look back and see it as a failure . We are like the boy with the barrow , we have the job in front of us . Reckon next season is going to tell us a lot more than this year and on past performance i am very nervous already . I am going to reserve my judgement coz talk is cheap . I reckon it is ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS time for our club .

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