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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:26 pm 
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Thought we’d lose going in, the first half cemented that thought and then of course they gave us some hope only to rip it away.
The mental deterioration is not surprising. Who are the big game players on this list? I think I read Collingwood had 9 guys playing who have played in a GF. We have a bunch of guys who have lost repeatedly for up to 9 years (depending on when they got to the club).
Cripps can hold his head up high. Been our best player in probably all of the past 4 games.
Charlie and Harry came up short. Not up to it mentally.
Coaches need to rework the game plan a bit. We can score when dominating stoppage but don’t have a method to move the ball efficiently from defensive 50 to forward 50. Collingwood showed us up in this area.
You can only hope the players use this as motivation across the pre season but they will probably won’t as it is Carlton.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:26 pm 
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Gold coast are the the bolterz in 2023. Don't rate the others

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:29 pm 
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bluedog wrote:
dane wrote:
Effes wrote:
dane wrote:
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The problem is there are clubs who finished below us who you can easily argue will be better than Carlton next year.

The truth is you haven't got a second to lose.
Strongly disagree. Name one.


Gold Coast, GWS and PTA all have lists capable of playing finals. Even the cheats could improve significantly.
Yikes. You mustn't rate us at all.



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:32 pm 
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AIRCAV wrote:
mymanmurph wrote:
all seriousness if you gave me a choice for the season we had I would’ve taken it after the last few years.

Last 2 games have been as good experience as any final in Brisbane would have given us.
Hope the boys are hurting like us supporters are, they need a big off season!

Just remember Melbourne finished 9th 2020….


+1. Who wouldn’t have taken a last round win for finals at the start of the year?

Cannot believe the angst aimed at Voss. Previously we’d have folded like a house of cards after 1st quarter.

But we didn’t. We fought hard and came back. Sure it hurts. But I reckon that’s a better hurt than us making finals and making up the numbers.


Absolutely we would have folded in the 2nd quarter in years gone past.
I have no doubt a good run with injuries we will be strong next season.
Hat off to Voss he’s definitely improved us.
We had our chances just gotta capitalise… 4 goals 8 from our two key forwards isn’t going to win many crunch games.
Only up from here GO BLUES!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:33 pm 
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Yeah, probably.

Regardless if whether it was correct or not, the Johnson free kick was a sliding doors moment. It was paid and well...you know

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:39 pm 
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I thought last week was bad, this really takes the cake.
I am lost for words.
So many dumb decisions in that last quarter, just needed a bit of composure.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:41 pm 
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The Newnes touched goal against Richmond a huge talking point this week.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:47 pm 
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So many what ifs this season. In the end only have ourselves to blame for missing the finals. I'm numb. You could see it coming from so far away. We are truly cursed. See you all in 6 months... maybe.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:52 pm 
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AIRCAV wrote:
mymanmurph wrote:
all seriousness if you gave me a choice for the season we had I would’ve taken it after the last few years.

Last 2 games have been as good experience as any final in Brisbane would have given us.
Hope the boys are hurting like us supporters are, they need a big off season!

Just remember Melbourne finished 9th 2020….


+1. Who wouldn’t have taken a last round win for finals at the start of the year?

Cannot believe the angst aimed at Voss. Previously we’d have folded like a house of cards after 1st quarter.

But we didn’t. We fought hard and came back. Sure it hurts. But I reckon that’s a better hurt than us making finals and making up the numbers.


Lot of pent up emotion on this board, understandably - my older son was in tears.

However, I think AIRCAV is right. A disappointment hopefully will make players want it more.

You learn more from mistakes than from victories. That’s not only a footy lesson, it’s a life lesson.

Shades of Richmond’s run of lost chances before they took that next step. Need to be more ruthless and make every kick count.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:55 pm 
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Effes wrote:
dane wrote:
Effes wrote:
The problem is there are clubs who finished below us who you can easily argue will be better than Carlton next year.

The truth is you haven't got a second to lose.
Strongly disagree. Name one.


Gold Coast, GWS and PTA all have lists capable of playing finals. Even the cheats could improve significantly.


But so will we. Realistically even if we won tonight, we were not winning a flag this year.
We have so much upside its not funny. Look at how guys like Motlop took their chances tonight. His pressure and goals were super. He is a kid.
Lewis Young has been a revelation. He stood up again tonight. Just two examples of players with huge growth potential. TDK will come on again.
Charlie has a full season under his belt. We have young mids who will continue to get better.
With some clever recruitment to fill a few holes we can be a very strong team next year. Hopefully less injuries (a review of the high performance team essential).
I would be targeting a small or mid sized experienced forward during trade week. Some one like a Jack Gunston. Imagine if we had a wise head like him or a Jack Riewoldt type settling Charlie and young Corey Durdin down in the last. We need some experience in that forward line, someone who has been there before.
@#$%&! i was so heavily invested emotionally in the last fortnight but with a few hours to reflect, its not the end of the world. We lost finals like games. The intensity at the Gabba in two weeks wont be any higher than the last fortnight. We will learn and get better. I reckon that was a good taste of what is required for our boys to go away and think about in the pre season.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:56 pm 
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It wasn't the umpires who came out with zero intensity at the ball. It wasn't the umpires who refused to take the game on until we went into the half time break. It wasn't the umpires who executed shitty kicks in the last. Like the game, I felt we got the rub in the 3rd, but no way we should have lost this game by letting umpiring become a factor.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:59 pm 
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CarltonClem wrote:
AIRCAV wrote:
mymanmurph wrote:
all seriousness if you gave me a choice for the season we had I would’ve taken it after the last few years.

Last 2 games have been as good experience as any final in Brisbane would have given us.
Hope the boys are hurting like us supporters are, they need a big off season!

Just remember Melbourne finished 9th 2020….


+1. Who wouldn’t have taken a last round win for finals at the start of the year?

Cannot believe the angst aimed at Voss. Previously we’d have folded like a house of cards after 1st quarter.

But we didn’t. We fought hard and came back. Sure it hurts. But I reckon that’s a better hurt than us making finals and making up the numbers.


Lot of pent up emotion on this board, understandably - my older son was in tears.

However, I think AIRCAV is right. A disappointment hopefully will make players want it more.

You learn more from mistakes than from victories. That’s not only a footy lesson, it’s a life lesson.

Shades of Richmond’s run of lost chances before they took that next step. Need to be more ruthless and make every kick count.


I Agree we learn more from the loss!
Biggest thing is how many times have our players played in front of 87,000 people? We have to better for the experience. Worst part is we have to wait 6 months to fine out what we learnt….


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:03 pm 
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CarltonClem wrote:

You learn more from mistakes than from victories. That’s not only a footy lesson, it’s a life lesson.





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If blowing these kind of games is a learning experience we'll be @#$%&! Rhodes Scholars in '23.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:05 pm 
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We all looking forward to Thursday night's blockbuster?


I predict there will be a lot of learning for the women this season.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:07 pm 
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bluehammer wrote:
It wasn't the umpires who came out with zero intensity at the ball. It wasn't the umpires who refused to take the game on until we went into the half time break. It wasn't the umpires who executed shitty kicks in the last. Like the game, I felt we got the rub in the 3rd, but no way we should have lost this game by letting umpiring become a factor.


Umpires didn’t cost us this game we kicked ourselves out of it.

What is frustrating is the change in how the rules are interpreted during the season, and our players constant expectation to receive a free kick that might have been
There early in the season rather that play to the whistle.
So many times we pause waiting for a free or a 50 and waste time.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:08 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
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bondiblue wrote:
Horrible day that will burn all summer.

My son, who has kicked a goal after the siren in a GF to win, kicked a goal with 1 minute left from a 5 goal deficit. He marks 25 out on an angle. he’s the most reliable kicks. You wouldn’t want the ball in anyone else’s hand. He kicks a point. Season over.

Ditto Doc, Charlie, Durdin…..looking for one point….season over

It’s not a good place to be here atm and some of the posts, whilst understandablle are a bit over the top. Walsh out before the game is a good reflection on our season since we were 8-2. Injuries got us in the end. The effort was there. The list needs to improve.

I feel I’m the only one with some composure in this household.

Williams and Cerra were great today even if underdone.

Who doesn’t think we will get better in 2023?

This loss will burn…will burn our players, our coach, our list manager….and finally, a few on our list.

Thanks for putting Carlton back on the map Sayers, Cook, Voss & co. We have not disgraced our brand. :clap:
I see this as the true turning point for the Club.

Win today and as much as we can dream, not winning a premiership. Just another also ran.

This on the other hand like you said has to hurt and burn some cauliflower into them.

Blue skies.


Why would this one change anything?

It’s been the same shot for 20 years.


That’s another rubbish comment from a sore loser.

This year has been one of our best in the last 20 years. Judd gave us hope. Voss has me believing. If you think the list is a premiership list you have only yourself to blame for that.

Be sad but be proud.


You’re right, I’m sore.

As for a premiership list, I’d have settled for finals. That’s how low my expectations have sunk.

I’m not sure how to be proud of failure. When you win 8-10 or 10-4, you make finals….just ask Collingwood supporters


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:10 pm 
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GWS wrote:
AIRCAV wrote:
As angry as I am, I actually think it’s a better result than us winning to face Brisbane in Brisbane. Go blues

I feel a bit the same but the stupid is just so stupid with some of these guys. :banghead:


Long term it is probably good for us to learn a real hard and bitter lesson like Melbourne did when they also just missed the finals on percentage in 2020.
Giving up big leads against Hawthorn and Port, not showing up to play GC and Adelaide, not putting in 100% against Richmond, Saints and Collingwood the first time. Not icing the games against Melbourne last week and today.
I’m positive about next year. Not many coaches would have been able to get us up and so close in the last 2 weeks with the key injuries we’ve had.
We’ve made big strides since last year. Massive wasted opportunity this season.
Next year looms large IF we take away the right lessons.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:14 pm 
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I think Carlton has broken me. I don’t think I will continue to be invested in this BS anymore. I said it when Bolton was coach but I gave them another shot and paid the money for a membership and the spit in our face


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:18 pm 
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I am reading some comments online about todays game.
One was pretty funny;
"When I die, I want Carlton to lower me into my grave, so I can be let down one last time."


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 8:19 pm 
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Cons:

Double choke. The team has mental demons. Started timid. Were timid in front of goal in 2nd and 4th quarter.
Inaccuracy and missed opportunities
2 goals in 3 quarters.
Thought the MC got the Elliott match up wrong. Should have been Marchbank on him, rather than Stocker.
Strange umpiring inconsistencies in marking contests.
Consistently outmarked in our forward line despite our tall forward strength.
Struggled to move the ball quickly out of defence playing 4 talls.
Charlie.
Durdin, Owies, Fisher.
SOJ was good on ball, but horrible up forward.

Pros:

Fought hard to get back in the game.
Cripps and Cerra were absolutely huge.
Martin, Pittonet, Cottrell, Young, Marchbank, Harry, Williams all good.
Another solid effort from Setterfield. Midfield as a whole has impressed the last 2 weeks, although injuries have weakened us there.


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