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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:53 pm 
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Can anyone play wing (well)?


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:55 pm 
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A BACK injury sidelined Caleb Marchbank for most of 2013, but he made up for lost time with a promising draft season.

Marchbank played the first two games of the Murray Bushrangers' TAC Cup season last year and in the second encounter was kneed in the back. It left him with stress fractures, and kept him out of action for six months.

A long rehabilitation process meant Marchbank entered this season feeling confident in his body, and he was able to piece together an impressive block of form in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships for Vic Country.

He won All Australian honours, and was hoping to carry that form into the end of the TAC Cup season before a knee injury ruled him out of the end of the season.

He missed the national combine with the injury but is expected to be back running by the time of November's draft.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:00 pm 
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rhino27 wrote:
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With McGovern back & Marchbank fit can we play Marchbank as a genuine tall wingman

Have a look at his junior review

https://www.afl.com.au/news/446447/25-d ... -marchbank

"Because of his size (193cm/85kg) and ability to move across the ground, some clubs view him as a tall midfielder at the next level. With his ball handling, smarts and strong marking, you can't pigeonhole Marchbank into one spot"


Was just about to ask the same thing.
Can Marchy play wing?


Worth a try. No one else grabbing to role yet


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 3:44 pm 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
rhino27 wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
With McGovern back & Marchbank fit can we play Marchbank as a genuine tall wingman

Have a look at his junior review

https://www.afl.com.au/news/446447/25-d ... -marchbank

"Because of his size (193cm/85kg) and ability to move across the ground, some clubs view him as a tall midfielder at the next level. With his ball handling, smarts and strong marking, you can't pigeonhole Marchbank into one spot"


Was just about to ask the same thing.
Can Marchy play wing?


Worth a try. No one else grabbing to role yet

Poor fella has already broken his neck & you blokes want to set him up for a case of whiplash?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:09 pm 
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B: Saad Young Marchbank
HB: McGovern Weitering Docherty
R: Pittonet Hewett Cerra
C: Walsh Cripps Cottrell
HF: Fisher McKay Motlop
F: Curnow Silvagni Durdin

I: Newman Kennedy De Koning Stocker

IN: Marchbank McGovern Pittonet
OUT Hayes (susp.) Plowman Newnes

I’d say that’s our absolute best defensive group… possibly our best team for the year?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:15 pm 
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Crusader wrote:
B: Saad Young Marchbank
HB: McGovern Weitering Docherty
R: Pittonet Hewett Cerra
C: Walsh Cripps Cottrell
HF: Fisher McKay Motlop
F: Curnow Silvagni Durdin

I: Newman Kennedy De Koning Stocker

IN: Marchbank McGovern Pittonet
OUT Hayes (susp.) Plowman Newnes

I’d say that’s our absolute best defensive group… possibly our best team for the year?


I like it but not sure you have both Newman and Stock on the bench - I'd swap one of them for LOB (ducks)

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:59 pm 
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bluebo baggers wrote:
Crusader wrote:
B: Saad Young Marchbank
HB: McGovern Weitering Docherty
R: Pittonet Hewett Cerra
C: Walsh Cripps Cottrell
HF: Fisher McKay Motlop
F: Curnow Silvagni Durdin

I: Newman Kennedy De Koning Stocker

IN: Marchbank McGovern Pittonet
OUT Hayes (susp.) Plowman Newnes

I’d say that’s our absolute best defensive group… possibly our best team for the year?


I like it but not sure you have both Newman and Stock on the bench - I'd swap one of them for LOB (ducks)

Yeah nah. The two returning intercept players will likely chew up some rotations. The extra defender will get plenty of time. Newy has the versatility to spend time on a wing if need be, but I’d be asking both Walsh and Cottrell for 25min quarters.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:06 pm 
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Crusader wrote:
B: Saad Young Marchbank
HB: McGovern Weitering Docherty
R: Pittonet Hewett Cerra
C: Walsh Cripps Cottrell
HF: Fisher McKay Motlop
F: Curnow Silvagni Durdin

I: Newman Kennedy De Koning Stocker

IN: Marchbank McGovern Pittonet
OUT Hayes (susp.) Plowman Newnes

I’d say that’s our absolute best defensive group… possibly our best team for the year?


LOB's playing. In for Hayes


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:39 pm 
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Can confirm LOB in.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 5:48 pm 
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I doubt they will bring Marchbank straight in. At least one VFL game first, methinks.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:22 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
I doubt they will bring Marchbank straight in. At least one VFL game first, methinks.


Yes we should proceed with caution this time around.

LOB in for Hayes.
Gov in for Plowman (make him sub in case Gov does his hammy again :donk: )
Pitto for ???


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:47 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
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BV made a comment about Geel playing their hand and backing themselves to not have other teams 'better it'

Agree

I am not going to debate all the stats that tell us Geel have been the best performed side lately BUT my gut feel is that they have peaked early

I may be in the minority but I refuse to accept the fact Geel won just because they're more matured, well drilled and overall more skillful...I freaking well knew that before the game...I didn't need a loss to confirm it or use it as an excuse

Prior to the game, I believed that if brought something between average and our best, it would be a close game that could go either way

We were deplorable, and I'm not including plays where Geel pressured us...we were deplorable all over the ground, including the coaches box with or without pressure

Our forwards, apart from Charlie were insipid
Our defenders couldn't adjust to any moves involving taking Weitering out of the game and rattled themselves
Our mids continue to be a problem and were soundly beaten by theirs...was it effort, set ups, poor disposal coming out of defence or going I50
Our gameplan reduced the G to kardinia Park...rarely transitioned on the 45 and widening the ground

Geelong have peaked.


I agree

Good onya 99.

I want to play them again…in any final. They can’t afford to miss a GF, and that will also play with their heads. They are not Carlton circa 1995 despite the similar age profiles. Bring them on. We learned a lot from that game. One is to not pass the ball to a player in the wrong jumper :wink:


Thanks bondi...we could not have made that game easier for them if we tried...the Geel coaches box was probably thinking, "how good is this, all our planning is paying off"
Please please please learn from it Vossy et al

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:54 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
99Prelim I'm sorry but I disagree. You yourself identified that we sucked in just about every respect. I think it'll be really hard to turn all those things around. Effort can be changed overnight but structural issues can't and I think if we play them again in Sept (and even that is a stretch IMO, I mean we are likely to be knocked out in the first week based off recent form) chances are we will still see many of the structural problems we saw last weekend. It takes time to bed in game plans. So it takes time to adjust. I hope I'm wrong though.


You don't need to apologise for disagreeing

I'm actually quite bullish about how we "come to the party" come finals...Will we win?, got NFI...but there's a gut feeling in me that whoever we play, the game will look more like the Freo (2nd time) game than the Geel game

Really confident that we will be switched on

It's where Voss will earn his salary...he knows what a finals mindset looks, feels and acts like...BRING IT ON

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2022 10:52 pm 
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99prelim wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
99Prelim I'm sorry but I disagree. You yourself identified that we sucked in just about every respect. I think it'll be really hard to turn all those things around. Effort can be changed overnight but structural issues can't and I think if we play them again in Sept (and even that is a stretch IMO, I mean we are likely to be knocked out in the first week based off recent form) chances are we will still see many of the structural problems we saw last weekend. It takes time to bed in game plans. So it takes time to adjust. I hope I'm wrong though.


You don't need to apologise for disagreeing

I'm actually quite bullish about how we "come to the party" come finals...Will we win?, got NFI...but there's a gut feeling in me that whoever we play, the game will look more like the Freo (2nd time) game than the Geel game

Really confident that we will be switched on

It's where Voss will earn his salary...he knows what a finals mindset looks, feels and acts like...BRING IT ON


The Geelong game was supposedly a taste of finals for the team. They did really well. Not. Here's hoping it was all a charade to fool all the other teams in contention.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 12:33 am 
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Taking my 10 y.o. son. He has a Charlie's Crew membership.

Do I have to somehow find a way of booking for 2 on the app?

I am assuming it is on the Ticketmaster website which is just horrible. If my ticket helps solve it, please let me know.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:35 am 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
99prelim wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
99Prelim I'm sorry but I disagree. You yourself identified that we sucked in just about every respect. I think it'll be really hard to turn all those things around. Effort can be changed overnight but structural issues can't and I think if we play them again in Sept (and even that is a stretch IMO, I mean we are likely to be knocked out in the first week based off recent form) chances are we will still see many of the structural problems we saw last weekend. It takes time to bed in game plans. So it takes time to adjust. I hope I'm wrong though.


You don't need to apologise for disagreeing

I'm actually quite bullish about how we "come to the party" come finals...Will we win?, got NFI...but there's a gut feeling in me that whoever we play, the game will look more like the Freo (2nd time) game than the Geel game

Really confident that we will be switched on

It's where Voss will earn his salary...he knows what a finals mindset looks, feels and acts like...BRING IT ON


The Geelong game was supposedly a taste of finals for the team. They did really well. Not. Here's hoping it was all a charade to fool all the other teams in contention.



It was a Finals like game.

I thought most of our players were sharp, and they stood up well most game.

I wasn’t as impressed with the Cars and if you think we played bad, then Cats were awful for a Top side and we aren’t that far off the leader.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:02 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
Teddy Hopkins wrote:
99prelim wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
99Prelim I'm sorry but I disagree. You yourself identified that we sucked in just about every respect. I think it'll be really hard to turn all those things around. Effort can be changed overnight but structural issues can't and I think if we play them again in Sept (and even that is a stretch IMO, I mean we are likely to be knocked out in the first week based off recent form) chances are we will still see many of the structural problems we saw last weekend. It takes time to bed in game plans. So it takes time to adjust. I hope I'm wrong though.


You don't need to apologise for disagreeing

I'm actually quite bullish about how we "come to the party" come finals...Will we win?, got NFI...but there's a gut feeling in me that whoever we play, the game will look more like the Freo (2nd time) game than the Geel game

Really confident that we will be switched on

It's where Voss will earn his salary...he knows what a finals mindset looks, feels and acts like...BRING IT ON


The Geelong game was supposedly a taste of finals for the team. They did really well. Not. Here's hoping it was all a charade to fool all the other teams in contention.



It was a Finals like game.

I thought most of our players were sharp, and they stood up well most game.

I wasn’t as impressed with the Cars and if you think we played bad, then Cats were awful for a Top side and we aren’t that far off the leader.


I thought we got spanked in every aspect of the game. Out-coached, out-muscled and worst of all out-worked.

We had maybe one or two winners across the ground and maybe a couple broke even


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:13 am 
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I have a feeling Marchbank will come straight back in. McGovern & Pittonet in as well with O'Brien

What will be interesting now is our structure. We all of a sudden become a lot taller and bigger. May be a good thing. Pittonet coming in makes us drop a smaller player. (unless we rest TDK or Silvagni) I don't mind the taller defence as long we we have some run around it.

Up forward the smaller players need to focus on pressure


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:25 am 
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I don’t think the match committee will make four changes, they’ll make maybe three at most, with one being forced by Hayes suspension.

I am expecting LOB, Pittonet and maybe one of Guv or Marchbank.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:29 am 
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sinbagger wrote:
I don’t think the match committee will make four changes, they’ll make maybe three at most, with one being forced by Hayes suspension.

I am expecting LOB, Pittonet and maybe one of Guv or Marchbank.


I don't think we have made more than 3 changes all year so you may be right. With 5 weeks to go how keen will Voss be to get his best players in asap?

I see Marchbank McGovern Pittonet O'Brien all Best 22 at the moment. Setterfield & Dow are pushing hard and even Fogarty's form has been good. Martin & Owies aren't far away. Interesting times


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