Carlton will not challenge Hayes two match suspension

I think that is WRONG

I'd keep Motlop in, he's developing nicely and has form. Giving Durdin a spell is a good idea but I'd want another small forward to take his place rather than a repurposed mid or wing, so I'd keep him in until Martin or Owies is ready.

I seem to recall Plow getting towelled by Toby Greene last time, or is my memory failing me again? If I'm right, I'd consider a return for Gov if fit. Not exactly an obvious matchup, I'm thinking more of a fight fire with fire approach, make Toby put in a defensive shift to stop Gov's rebound skills.

Setters and LOB for Hayes and Cottrell I can go with. Cottrell as medisub.

Kemp for Plowman. If someone can tell me why Plowman is in the team on current form.

I used to say that Plowman was a foot soldier that every team needs but not on current form. He is a liability.

So do I
Gotta stick up for our player when they are wronged.
This was a wrong decision/suspension.

The right arm wasn't pinned.

We got carried away at 8-2, thinking we could seriously win the flag.

Bottom of the 8 is our level.

I'm pretty sure Plowman played on Toby when we played them up there, & did well.

Setters in for Hayes.
Gov for Plow.
Pitto back in but in terms of team balance not sure who for.
Josh Kelly will miss for them

Wasn’t Cottrell tagging Smith? I thought he did a good job?

I thought Newness was pretty flaky too.

Hayes and Docherty will probably both be suspended for dangerous tackle and choosing to bump the head instead of tackling respectively.

TDK’s shoulder also looked sore.

I’d look at bringing in Guv and Pittonet for two of these three depending how the tribunal and injuries turn out.

Owies should return via vfl.

My side

B: Docherty Young McGovern
HB: Cottrell Weitering Saad
C: Hayes Cripps O’Brien
HF: Cerra McKay Fisher
F: Silvagni Curnow Motlop
Foll: Pittonet Hewett Walsh
Int: Kennedy Setterfield Newman TDK (Plowman)

Cottrell I would play on Greene. Allows Docherty & Saad freedom
Pittonet McGovern Setterfield O’Brien back in
Durdin dropped. Needs to go back and work on a few things
Stocker is NOT a defender. Play him in the middle in the 2s
Plowman as sub. I hate younger players as sub. They need games.

Please no umpire Williamson. Absolutely garbage every time we get him

I'll tell you what McKay had want to pull his finger out.,
He has been terrible the last 2 weeks.
I know he kicked 5 against WC but that was against WC and his first half was terrible, as was his entire game against Geel.
Yes delivery was poor but he was also toweled by DeKoning who read the flight of the ball better than he did.
Several things are frustrating me about Mckay...

1. He isn't holding marks. Granted some of these are tough but at the end of the day the best key forwards hold those sorts of chances. Many times of late he has been on the lead and dropped marks. Yes they are sharp leads and sharp kicks but he needs to do better bec the best forwards catch these more times than he does. And in one one ones he is being pushed aside too easily. He is a monster of a man but he isn't being tough enough in contests right now.
2. From 50m out he is hopeless. Can't kick across the body that far and his drop punt is no better.
3. He isn't working hard enough in contests when the ball isn't delivered on a silver platter. The ball won't always come in how you like it and big forwards need to fight for their wins and he isn't fighting near enough right now.

Weitering also needs to lift.
I know it is tough missing games and having to find the touch and rhythm again with your fellow backs but his first 2 games back have been terrible. Twice against Geel he was nowhere near his man Tom and that equated to 2 goals. Just terrible. And then he and Young together fluffed a chanced to mark near the boundary. Weiters looks like he is stoned out there. Fkn lift Jacob. You're a VC FFS.

I like your thinking FB.
I liked what Stocker did on Saturday, and I would like to see him in the guts too….and the only place to do that is the reissues, but he was ok, whilst Boyd and Williams is out

"Our level" has not been determined yet...I'm happy to wait until Rd 23 to decide what our level is

Jeez , for some reason i have got the heebie jeebies about this game . We should really kick there brains in but for some reason i am nervous . Come up with something really brilliant to calm me down boys .......................

Spot on. Let's not forget Geelong lost to Hawthorn earlier this year. They're in form at the moment and we didn't play anywhere near our best, but we're still only 2 wins behind them. Our trajectory is up. How good we become and how quickly we get there is yet to be determined.