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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:54 am 
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Stuff that. If he has done a conditioning block, it's straight in fella.



Will make a huge positive difference.

Come on dowwwwwn Pitto..


Vital. Why I like the idea of getting Goldstien for the next year or so. A big bodied ruck is vital. TDK is better as a Fwd/2nd ruck and Mirkov is a few years away


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:00 am 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Stuff that. If he has done a conditioning block, it's straight in fella.



Will make a huge positive difference.

Come on dowwwwwn Pitto..


Vital. Why I like the idea of getting Goldstien for the next year or so. A big bodied ruck is vital. TDK is better as a Fwd/2nd ruck and Mirkov is a few years away



Was discussing this yesterday when watching his On The Couch interview.

He's huge, strong, seasoned, talented, and can go for another 2 years whilst TDK builds. He could fill the No 1 ruck aplomb.

Goldstein suggested he will stay at NM, unless they delist or trade him.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:10 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Stuff that. If he has done a conditioning block, it's straight in fella.



Will make a huge positive difference.

Come on dowwwwwn Pitto..


Vital. Why I like the idea of getting Goldstien for the next year or so. A big bodied ruck is vital. TDK is better as a Fwd/2nd ruck and Mirkov is a few years away



Was discussing this yesterday when watching his On The Couch interview.

He's huge, strong, seasoned, talented, and can go for another 2 years whilst TDK builds. He could fill the No 1 ruck aplomb.

Goldstein suggested he will stay at NM, unless they delist or trade him.


Isn't he a unrestricted free agent? I'd certainly be having a crack at him. 2 year deal. 34 is a few days but could easily play 2 more years is managed right

If not I would look at Callum Sinclair from Sydney and I like Conner Ballenden as he can play many roles and only 23


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 Post subject: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:11 am 
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I’m told Weitering & Pittonet are training with main group and could be back next week. Fingers crossed


Great news FB.
Have you heard anything about Cunningham???


No I haven’t. Just that those two are doing most training and look good and McGovern light running


So, McGovern back to 100% already??! :-D


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:18 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Stuff that. If he has done a conditioning block, it's straight in fella.

Exactly...it's the ruck. See ball, hit ball, run to next pack of blokes...repeat.
I'm convinced.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:43 am 
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muzza wrote:
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Stuff that. If he has done a conditioning block, it's straight in fella.

Exactly...it's the ruck. See ball, hit ball, run to next pack of blokes...repeat.
I'm convinced.


Yep and we'll still have TDK in the side to shoulder his share of the ruck burden. Not like Pitto will be rucking on his own all game.

Slightly off topic, who made the decision to stop AR posting those injury update videos? That person deserves a medal.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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Please don't mention that name McGovern


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:22 am 
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Look going into 2022 losing Casboult and not drafting another ruck and having Mirkov not ready was dumb


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:36 am 
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And given our lack of kpp and the injuries to them. We have McGovern, Marchbank who are injury prone, as much as you all like Hayes, i think we should have taken another tall to at least fill a hole.

Hayes is 27 and we have plenty of time to grab a wing, its not a position of absolute need right now.

A tall body who at least who can compete.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:05 am 
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Paddycripps wrote:
Look going into 2022 losing Casboult and not drafting another ruck and having Mirkov not ready was dumb


We have Mirkov, Pittonet and TDK. You want a 4th ruck? How many lists have 4 ruckmen? None I'd suggest.
It's overkill and unbalances the list. We had O'Mac and Young as back ups. It's just a shit year for our talls, but we still have adequate replacements. TDK is developing and JSOS is serviceable.
I loved Casboult for his determination and service to the club but his time was up as a Carlton player.

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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:19 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Look going into 2022 losing Casboult and not drafting another ruck and having Mirkov not ready was dumb


We have Mirkov, Pittonet and TDK. You want a 4th ruck? How many lists have 4 ruckmen? None I'd suggest.
It's overkill and unbalances the list. We had O'Mac and Young as back ups. It's just a shit year for our talls, but we still have adequate replacements. TDK is developing and JSOS is serviceable.
I loved Casboult for his determination and service to the club but his time was up as a Carlton player.


I see TDK as a second ruck/fwd. Mirkov is being developed so is almost like having a rookie. I would have had another mature ruckman on our list and hope we do for next year or so as Mirkov develops. Having a mature ruck available each week is extremely valuable


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 Post subject: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:34 am 
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FarmerBlue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Look going into 2022 losing Casboult and not drafting another ruck and having Mirkov not ready was dumb


We have Mirkov, Pittonet and TDK. You want a 4th ruck? How many lists have 4 ruckmen? None I'd suggest.
It's overkill and unbalances the list. We had O'Mac and Young as back ups. It's just a shit year for our talls, but we still have adequate replacements. TDK is developing and JSOS is serviceable.
I loved Casboult for his determination and service to the club but his time was up as a Carlton player.


I see TDK as a second ruck/fwd. Mirkov is being developed so is almost like having a rookie. I would have had another mature ruckman on our list and hope we do for next year or so as Mirkov develops. Having a mature ruck available each week is extremely valuable


A mature age ruck would be a list clogger unless in an emergency where we are playing for a grand final berth and all our rucks are injured. I’d much rather Mirkov gets as much time playing first ruck as possible in the vfl.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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sinbagger wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Look going into 2022 losing Casboult and not drafting another ruck and having Mirkov not ready was dumb


We have Mirkov, Pittonet and TDK. You want a 4th ruck? How many lists have 4 ruckmen? None I'd suggest.
It's overkill and unbalances the list. We had O'Mac and Young as back ups. It's just a shit year for our talls, but we still have adequate replacements. TDK is developing and JSOS is serviceable.
I loved Casboult for his determination and service to the club but his time was up as a Carlton player.


I see TDK as a second ruck/fwd. Mirkov is being developed so is almost like having a rookie. I would have had another mature ruckman on our list and hope we do for next year or so as Mirkov develops. Having a mature ruck available each week is extremely valuable


A mature age ruck would be a list clogger unless in an emergency where we are playing for a grand final berth and all our rucks are injured. I’d much rather Mirkov gets as much time playing first ruck as possible in the vfl.

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 Post subject: Injury Thread 2022
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Paddycripps wrote:
Look going into 2022 losing Casboult and not drafting another ruck and having Mirkov not ready was dumb


We had plenty of cover for his position, they just all became injured. If we’d kept Levi odds are he would also be injured right now and we’d all be moaning about not replacing him when we had the chance.


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 11:31 am 
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sinbagger wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Look going into 2022 losing Casboult and not drafting another ruck and having Mirkov not ready was dumb


We have Mirkov, Pittonet and TDK. You want a 4th ruck? How many lists have 4 ruckmen? None I'd suggest.
It's overkill and unbalances the list. We had O'Mac and Young as back ups. It's just a shit year for our talls, but we still have adequate replacements. TDK is developing and JSOS is serviceable.
I loved Casboult for his determination and service to the club but his time was up as a Carlton player.


I see TDK as a second ruck/fwd. Mirkov is being developed so is almost like having a rookie. I would have had another mature ruckman on our list and hope we do for next year or so as Mirkov develops. Having a mature ruck available each week is extremely valuable


A mature age ruck would be a list clogger unless in an emergency where we are playing for a grand final berth and all our rucks are injured. I’d much rather Mirkov gets as much time playing first ruck as possible in the vfl.


What if having a back up like Goldstein whilst Pittonet is injured helped us win a couple of more games to get us a top 4 spot?


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 Post subject: Re: Injury Thread 2022
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FarmerBlue wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
FarmerBlue wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Look going into 2022 losing Casboult and not drafting another ruck and having Mirkov not ready was dumb


We have Mirkov, Pittonet and TDK. You want a 4th ruck? How many lists have 4 ruckmen? None I'd suggest.
It's overkill and unbalances the list. We had O'Mac and Young as back ups. It's just a shit year for our talls, but we still have adequate replacements. TDK is developing and JSOS is serviceable.
I loved Casboult for his determination and service to the club but his time was up as a Carlton player.


I see TDK as a second ruck/fwd. Mirkov is being developed so is almost like having a rookie. I would have had another mature ruckman on our list and hope we do for next year or so as Mirkov develops. Having a mature ruck available each week is extremely valuable


A mature age ruck would be a list clogger unless in an emergency where we are playing for a grand final berth and all our rucks are injured. I’d much rather Mirkov gets as much time playing first ruck as possible in the vfl.


What if having a back up like Goldstein whilst Pittonet is injured helped us win a couple of more games to get us a top 4 spot?


What about having Tom Barrass for when Weitering has been injured? It's as easy as swapping trading cards right? :wink:


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