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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:43 pm 
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Why cant we play Durdin ? Keep it simple. Guard a player as best you can.

If we dont get another tall back they will stack their forward line . Remember this is their grand final.

We cant mess around, need to win as many games as possible till we get players back.

Just need to take a risk with Durdin now, no choice.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 12:55 pm 
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I'll be surprised if Durdin doesn't come in. We have plenty of experience in the back half to instruct and assist him. I agree Drewgirl. Play him.
Especially after Young was taken apart by Logan McDonald.
We need another back up if it goes pear shaped. Young has an opportunity to cement his spot over the next few weeks but he'd want to up the intensity. I wouldn't be surprised if Durdin and Weiters are our tall defenders later in the season.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:05 pm 
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I wouldn't even stop at Durdin, if Marchbank can play I'd send him out also.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:24 pm 
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kingkerna wrote:
I wouldn't even stop at Durdin, if Marchbank can play I'd send him out also.


Agree bring Durdin and Marchbank in.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 1:30 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
kingkerna wrote:
I wouldn't even stop at Durdin, if Marchbank can play I'd send him out also.


Agree bring Durdin and Marchbank in.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 2:05 pm 
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There’s a pretty decent gap between AFL & VFL… SANFL & WAFL are even further behind.

Young, Plowman & Kemp would have to be injured or consistently horrible for Durdin to play before Weitering comes back.

The filth took 18 marks inside 50 last week.

Sidebottom 4
Henry 4… all uncontested
Mihocek 2
Elliot 2
Ginnivan 2
Cox 1
Noble 1
Pendlebury 1
Lipinski 1

What was Weitering going to do to alter that? Magically teleport from spot to spot to defend the uncontested chains off half back?

Point being, you couldn’t tip Young or Plowman out because they couldn’t defend against our midfield turnovers or pressure less forward half defence.

Marchbank hasn’t got through a full game at the lower level yet. Kemp is next man up & he’s got a six month head start on Durdin.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 2:28 pm 
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I think we are all agreeing that the choice is between Kemp and Durdin, and as far as I am concerned I think Durdin should be straight into the seniors.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 2:59 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
I think we are all agreeing that the choice is between Kemp and Durdin, and as far as I am concerned I think Durdin should be straight into the seniors.



I like the set up of 3 talls in the forwardline, and 3 talls in the backline.

I also am a huge fan of playing 2 bonafide rucks, in Finals, non negotianle, but also should be emplyed in the H & A.

KPF Curnow Silvagni Kemp
KPD Young Durdin Plowman

Ruck TDK waxes with Silvagni, and if Silvagni has to face Philips, Draper or Wright (all 200cm), then I'd get Young or Durdin to give TDK the chop out...if not resting on bench, then he can rest forward and Jack/Kemp can go to defence for short stints.

I would have Marchy in the seniors if he had proven he can play 80% Game Time in the reserves, but he hasn't.

Effendum gets a few back this week, and Langford and Redman add more talls

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 3:32 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
I think we are all agreeing that the choice is between Kemp and Durdin, and as far as I am concerned I think Durdin should be straight into the seniors.



I like the set up of 3 talls in the forwardline, and 3 talls in the backline.

I also am a huge fan of playing 2 bonafide rucks, in Finals, non negotianle, but also should be emplyed in the H & A.

KPF Curnow Silvagni Kemp
KPD Young Durdin Plowman

Ruck TDK waxes with Silvagni, and if Silvagni has to face Philips, Draper or Wright (all 200cm), then I'd get Young or Durdin to give TDK the chop out...if not resting on bench, then he can rest forward and Jack/Kemp can go to defence for short stints.

I would have Marchy in the seniors if he had proven he can play 80% Game Time in the reserves, but he hasn't.

Effendum gets a few back this week, and Langford and Redman add more talls

Where do people get the idea that JSOS and Plowman are KP. They simply are not. 3rd men up e.g. JSOS was at his best when he had both Charlie and Harry playing.

BUT bondi, your selections are the best we currently have.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 6:48 pm 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
I think we are all agreeing that the choice is between Kemp and Durdin, and as far as I am concerned I think Durdin should be straight into the seniors.



I like the set up of 3 talls in the forwardline, and 3 talls in the backline.

I also am a huge fan of playing 2 bonafide rucks, in Finals, non negotianle, but also should be emplyed in the H & A.

KPF Curnow Silvagni Kemp
KPD Young Durdin Plowman

Ruck TDK waxes with Silvagni, and if Silvagni has to face Philips, Draper or Wright (all 200cm), then I'd get Young or Durdin to give TDK the chop out...if not resting on bench, then he can rest forward and Jack/Kemp can go to defence for short stints.

I would have Marchy in the seniors if he had proven he can play 80% Game Time in the reserves, but he hasn't.

Effendum gets a few back this week, and Langford and Redman add more talls

Where do people get the idea that JSOS and Plowman are KP. They simply are not. 3rd men up e.g. JSOS was at his best when he had both Charlie and Harry playing.

BUT bondi, your selections are the best we currently have.


Exactly Teddy.
These days, 196 with a long arm span plus, is considered KP, many are 200cm today.

Point is, after the abovementioned, next available is Setterfield at 192cm, 1cm shorter than Marchy and Plow, who are 3rd up talls, not KP IMO.

I actually don't know if SOS is 192 or 194. I know he plays tall, and has long arms like his dad.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 7:33 pm 
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In: Durdin, Kemp, Kennedy, Martin
Out: Weitering (inj), Cottrell, Motlop, Newnes


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 10:53 am 
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kingkerna wrote:
I wouldn't even stop at Durdin, if Marchbank can play I'd send him out also.


Spot on. Couldn't agree more.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 11:04 am 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
In: Durdin, Kemp, Kennedy, Martin
Out: Weitering (inj), Cottrell, Motlop, Newnes


Did you mean Carroll or Cottrell?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 11:09 am 
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In: Durdin, Kennedy, Martin

Out: Weitering, Carroll, Motlop, Newness

Kemp for medi sub.

Dow, Cotterell and O’Brien now under real pressure from Hayes for their position.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 12:44 pm 
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kingkerna wrote:
I wouldn't even stop at Durdin, if Marchbank can play I'd send him out also.


Durdin definitely. Hayes will be close. Marchbank no way. Played two games in two years. Long way off match fitness wise, still playing limited minutes in VFL, and Russell is normally very cautious with long term injuries

I think he needs a month of VFL football before he is even considered

In: Kennedy S.Durdin Martin Kemp
Out: Weitering Carroll Cottrell Newnes Motlop


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 12:50 pm 
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Teddy Hopkins wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
I think we are all agreeing that the choice is between Kemp and Durdin, and as far as I am concerned I think Durdin should be straight into the seniors.



I like the set up of 3 talls in the forwardline, and 3 talls in the backline.

I also am a huge fan of playing 2 bonafide rucks, in Finals, non negotianle, but also should be emplyed in the H & A.

KPF Curnow Silvagni Kemp
KPD Young Durdin Plowman

Ruck TDK waxes with Silvagni, and if Silvagni has to face Philips, Draper or Wright (all 200cm), then I'd get Young or Durdin to give TDK the chop out...if not resting on bench, then he can rest forward and Jack/Kemp can go to defence for short stints.

I would have Marchy in the seniors if he had proven he can play 80% Game Time in the reserves, but he hasn't.

Effendum gets a few back this week, and Langford and Redman add more talls

Where do people get the idea that JSOS and Plowman are KP. They simply are not. 3rd men up e.g. JSOS was at his best when he had both Charlie and Harry playing.

BUT bondi, your selections are the best we currently have.


Agree. JSOS best footy is the third tall option when McKay & Curnow both play.

Plowman always worries me when he plays deep. His best football has always been when he plays further up the ground as a running HBF

Just to have one of Weitering Pittonet or McKay back would make a massive difference to our structure. It's why I'm keen to give Mirkov a run


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 12:53 pm 
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Crusader wrote:
There’s a pretty decent gap between AFL & VFL… SANFL & WAFL are even further behind.

Young, Plowman & Kemp would have to be injured or consistently horrible for Durdin to play before Weitering comes back.

What was Weitering going to do to alter that? Magically teleport from spot to spot to defend the uncontested chains off half back?

Point being, you couldn’t tip Young or Plowman out because they couldn’t defend against our midfield turnovers or pressure less forward half defence.

Marchbank hasn’t got through a full game at the lower level yet. Kemp is next man up & he’s got a six month head start on Durdin.


I think we need cover for Effendrug*s talls, and believe we need both Kemp and Durdin to play.

I'm far from convinced Kempo is a good one on one defender against a KPF.

I thought it was ridiculous during the Pies game when SOS was in the ruck, TDK off the ground and Charlie battling against 3 talls, who marked more than not. The numbers don't lie.

Our small forwards can't and couldn't compete in the air against KPD's hence the Pies won easy balland took off from there. Smalls can only provide pressure on the floor when the ball hits the ground, and they are in the vicinity. Pies won the game in the air.

I don't think its as easy as saying Kemp has 6 months on Durdin. Its more complex than that, and Form has a say in the equation too.

Durdin had years of injuries to his young body when playing for North, but got over the injuries as his body matured. He completed 5 preseasons and Kemp has completed one.

Durdin is in red hot form in the SANFL, Kemp, imo, is in no man's land. I haven't see any form to warrant Kemp's selection, just the next man up given his height, and Durdin has a stronger and taller body than Kemp.

Effendum* will have at least 2 players 200cm + tall in their forwardline. Who takes their FF Wright 203cm? Young is the likely to be the one.

Who takes Philips 201 or Draper 205 when playing forward? IMO neither Plowman 192 or Kemp 193 will be able to take any of those 2 big guys. They will be up to 10cms shorter.

Who takes Stringer? Kemp? Plow? One may have to, and I'd have to give the honours to Plow given he's in the same weight division, and Kemp would be eaten alive...so might Plow TBH, but...

I've seen Kemp live in 2 VFL games in the backline, and he seriously struggled against the big boys and played better as the loose defender. One on One he was too small against bigger opponents and certainly not strong enough yet (limited preseasons) to beat opponents body on body. Durdin on the other hand is a stronger more mature body: he's got 6 preseasons over Kemp.

Durdin is a seasoned body, fit and champing at the bit. I don't know how fay ahead Kemp is in terms of fitness to play AFL, but in the next game against the big boys, I'd rather have Durdin back there offering the sorely missed Jones' Golden Fist, let alone Weitering's. Marchbank is the same height as Kemp, but hasn't put 4 quarters at VFL together to be seriously considered now that Curdin is on our list.

I like the way Kemp leads as a forward, but also feel his best is ahead of him with more preseasons. I get that the cupboard is bare and we are struggling for talls because of injury, not form or list issues.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 1:45 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
In: Durdin, Kemp, Kennedy, Martin
Out: Weitering (inj), Cottrell, Motlop, Newnes


Did you mean Carroll or Cottrell?


No I have it right - Cottrell. He made Sidebottom look like he was in All Australian form and Sidebottom would have been lucky to be playing VFL on this year’s form.


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Regarding height, Durdin KB as must have 2nd tall defender.

Kemp KF to help both Charlie and JSOS

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