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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2022 5:46 pm 
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Yep he was good. On a few occasions he used all his guile & experience to leave North in his tracks. Liked his game

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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2022 5:52 pm 
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Agree, he’s playing if fit.
Carroll might be super unlucky if both Williams and Hewitt come up. Maybe Newman could be nervous too



I thought Newman was good.



Ditto, and I'm not a huge fan.

his experience should only be replaced by a player in great form.


I know players need "development time" in the seniors because the VFL does not reflect the speed of the game at the highest level, but right at this minute our primary objective should be Wins

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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2022 9:37 am 
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CK95 wrote:
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Agree, he’s playing if fit.
Carroll might be super unlucky if both Williams and Hewitt come up. Maybe Newman could be nervous too



I thought Newman was good.



Ditto, and I'm not a huge fan.

his experience should only be replaced by a player in great form.


I know players need "development time" in the seniors because the VFL does not reflect the speed of the game at the highest level, but right at this minute our primary objective should be Wins


If Williams and Hewitt are both right then they come back in. Somebody’s going to miss out


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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2022 11:41 am 
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DesEnglish wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
CK95 wrote:
DesEnglish wrote:
Agree, he’s playing if fit.
Carroll might be super unlucky if both Williams and Hewitt come up. Maybe Newman could be nervous too



I thought Newman was good.



Ditto, and I'm not a huge fan.

his experience should only be replaced by a player in great form.


I know players need "development time" in the seniors because the VFL does not reflect the speed of the game at the highest level, but right at this minute our primary objective should be Wins


If Williams and Hewitt are both right then they come back in. Somebody’s going to miss out


That's right.

My money would be on one of Owies (5 disposals, 8 tackles 2 goals), or, Durdin ( 11 disposals, 4 tackles 1 goal assist).

The easy decision for Voss would be to return the order back by replacing Carroll with the player who made way for him due to injury, Hewett.

Williams - Stocker is an easy decision.

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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2022 11:42 am 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
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Stocker came in for Parks. Plowman came in for Williams.
So Williams will come in for Stocker if fit and Plowman will retain his place (rightly so) IMHO.
We've played a back 7 for a number of years now so I cant see one of them suddenly being the sub and we go in without a backline rotation.

I'd suggest Carroll or Durdin are most likely to get the sub vest, at the expense of Hewitt. Both would be very unlucky. It's not been very often we've said that the past 20 years.
The other option (which I've been keen on all season) is to run a 4 position rotation off the wing. Wing/midfield/half forward/bench and drop Newnes or LOB to the sub vest. The complication is I'm unsure if Carroll has the endurance to be included in the wing component.
If so, we could run Walsh/Cerra/Fisher/Carroll. Walsh and Cerra doing most of the midfield/wing rotation and the other 2 pinch hitting to add a difference.

I reckon that’s spot on.

What would you do if Young’s suspension is upheld? Kemp has only played one half as a defender in the VFL this year but he should know our system. Frankly, I don’t think we have an alternative if Parks & OMac are still unavailable.


I also agree and I am pretty sure Carroll spent some time on the wing in his VFL games so playing him as part of the wing rotation is not out of the question. Given it is at Marvel I would play Carroll over LOB.


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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2022 1:12 pm 
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Can’t see Young getting suspended but if he does Kemp should play and get that he hasn’t played down back for the year and a different type but I’m wondering whether by putting him back in the readies was to play the McGovern role given he is out indefinitely and never plays a full season


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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2022 2:44 pm 
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Can’t see Young getting suspended but if he does Kemp should play and get that he hasn’t played down back for the year and a different type but I’m wondering whether by putting him back in the readies was to play the McGovern role given he is out indefinitely and never plays a full season



With Parks injured his foot but also showed he's not developed/good enough to take on the McGovern role, after replacing Plowman, Voss left the 3rd tall to Newman, who is not an intercept mark. He was going to play a different role.

IMO, Kemp was played in the backline to get him into the groove for that role in the following week(s) after playing forward all year, to fill the position vacated by Parks.

Plowman stepped up when given a 'lucky' reprieve to fill in the late withdrawal of Williams, and played very well.

Kemp is still the next soldier in line for a Tall defensive role, or a tall Forward role. Its now up to Plowman to try and keep the spot, with Kemp in waiting.

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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2022 8:50 pm 
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The AFL's legal counsel Andrew Woods argued Young could have avoided a collision with Zurhaar altogether.

"What I submit is Young slows his body in a manner that makes forceful contact and one of the things he could have done to avoid contact is he could have veered to his left and accelerated out of the contest," Woods said.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/754029/the- ... young-bump

Is Mr Woods familiar with football? If Young had ‘accelerated out of the contest’ he might as well have kept accelerating out of Marvel Stadium because he would never be allowed to wear a Carlton jumper again.

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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2022 9:11 pm 
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This week’s injury update has Hewitt & Williams still both as ‘tests’ (no certainties to play).

Wouldn’t surprise me if they give Hewitt another week off. Calf injuries can be a bugger to shake.

In that case, it’s-
In: Williams, Setterfield
Out: Stocker (inj & susp), Newnes.

(Cottrell out of the 23 and Newnes as sub).

If Williams doesn’t come up, I guess Boyd is the logical replacement for Stocker.

If Setterfield isn’t ready, I would keep Newnes in the 22 and bring in Dow as sub.

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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2022 9:20 pm 
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Will be Williams in for Stocker and Setters the sub in place of Cottrell, George another week off IMO


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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2022 10:31 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
This week’s injury update has Hewitt & Williams still both as ‘tests’ (no certainties to play).

Wouldn’t surprise me if they give Hewitt another week off. Calf injuries can be a bugger to shake.

In that case, it’s-
In: Williams, Setterfield
Out: Stocker (inj & susp), Newnes.

(Cottrell out of the 23 and Newnes as sub).

If Williams doesn’t come up, I guess Boyd is the logical replacement for Stocker.

If Setterfield isn’t ready, I would keep Newnes in the 22 and bring in Dow as sub.


No to Boyd. He’s a million miles off. I’d rather play Newnes off half back or give kemp a go


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2022 7:31 am 
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jake_h03 wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
This week’s injury update has Hewitt & Williams still both as ‘tests’ (no certainties to play).

Wouldn’t surprise me if they give Hewitt another week off. Calf injuries can be a bugger to shake.

In that case, it’s-
In: Williams, Setterfield
Out: Stocker (inj & susp), Newnes.

(Cottrell out of the 23 and Newnes as sub).

If Williams doesn’t come up, I guess Boyd is the logical replacement for Stocker.

If Setterfield isn’t ready, I would keep Newnes in the 22 and bring in Dow as sub.


No to Boyd. He’s a million miles off. I’d rather play Newnes off half back or give kemp a go


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Me too.
No Boyd unless he is the only fit and available player. The way our injury list is heading, we may not be far away from that.


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2022 9:25 am 
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The AFL's legal counsel Andrew Woods argued Young could have avoided a collision with Zurhaar altogether.

"What I submit is Young slows his body in a manner that makes forceful contact and one of the things he could have done to avoid contact is he could have veered to his left and accelerated out of the contest," Woods said.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/754029/the- ... young-bump

Is Mr Woods familiar with football? If Young had ‘accelerated out of the contest’ he might as well have kept accelerating out of Marvel Stadium because he would never be allowed to wear a Carlton jumper again.


Exactly.

Why would a legal professional make such silly comments, unless they have no understanding of the game, let alone may have never played the game of Aussie Rules.

Gerard Healy agrees with Wood. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2022 9:31 am 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
This week’s injury update has Hewitt & Williams still both as ‘tests’ (no certainties to play).

Wouldn’t surprise me if they give Hewitt another week off. Calf injuries can be a bugger to shake.

In that case, it’s-
In: Williams, Setterfield
Out: Stocker (inj & susp), Newnes.

(Cottrell out of the 23 and Newnes as sub).

If Williams doesn’t come up, I guess Boyd is the logical replacement for Stocker.

If Setterfield isn’t ready, I would keep Newnes in the 22 and bring in Dow as sub.


A nephew told me George was still limping, and doesn't look 100%, so don't count on his return vs Adel.

Setterfield.
Wow. I know he was listed with "illness", but it looked like he was dropped due to his last performance.
I don't know how Steers comes back in the picture TBH, unless we are desperate.

I've watched the replay a couple of times and Newnes was really good. He played the wing position really well.
I'm neither here or there with Newnes, but he's miles ahead of Setterfield imo. But that's my view, and know Voss knows better.

I don't get too obsessed with what Voss said about Setterfield before his 50th game vs Freo.
Voss like to pump up the players with confidence. Voss did that, and Setters was crap, again....imo

We will see.
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2022 9:51 am 
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bondiblue wrote:
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The AFL's legal counsel Andrew Woods argued Young could have avoided a collision with Zurhaar altogether.

"What I submit is Young slows his body in a manner that makes forceful contact and one of the things he could have done to avoid contact is he could have veered to his left and accelerated out of the contest," Woods said.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/754029/the- ... young-bump

Is Mr Woods familiar with football? If Young had ‘accelerated out of the contest’ he might as well have kept accelerating out of Marvel Stadium because he would never be allowed to wear a Carlton jumper again.


Exactly.

Why would a legal professional make such silly comments, unless they have no understanding of the game, let alone may have never played the game of Aussie Rules.

Gerard Healy agrees with Wood. :lol: :lol: :lol:


He could be a massive footy fan, but Mr Woods is getting paid lots of money by the AFL to make dumb arguments :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2022 10:13 am 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
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The AFL's legal counsel Andrew Woods argued Young could have avoided a collision with Zurhaar altogether.

"What I submit is Young slows his body in a manner that makes forceful contact and one of the things he could have done to avoid contact is he could have veered to his left and accelerated out of the contest," Woods said.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/754029/the- ... young-bump

Is Mr Woods familiar with football? If Young had ‘accelerated out of the contest’ he might as well have kept accelerating out of Marvel Stadium because he would never be allowed to wear a Carlton jumper again.


Zurhaar also could have avoided contact if he’d just stopped chasing the ball.


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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2022 4:09 pm 
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Wojee wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
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The AFL's legal counsel Andrew Woods argued Young could have avoided a collision with Zurhaar altogether.

"What I submit is Young slows his body in a manner that makes forceful contact and one of the things he could have done to avoid contact is he could have veered to his left and accelerated out of the contest," Woods said.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/754029/the- ... young-bump

Is Mr Woods familiar with football? If Young had ‘accelerated out of the contest’ he might as well have kept accelerating out of Marvel Stadium because he would never be allowed to wear a Carlton jumper again.


Exactly.

Why would a legal professional make such silly comments, unless they have no understanding of the game, let alone may have never played the game of Aussie Rules.

Gerard Healy agrees with Wood. :lol: :lol: :lol:


He could be a massive footy fan, but Mr Woods is getting paid lots of money by the AFL to make dumb arguments :lol:


Wojee, I know you're right. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2022 10:04 pm 
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I wouldn't bring Setterfield back. He's been really ordinary

Newnes and LOB were both half decent as was the new kid JC

Williams in for Stocker
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