Assistant coaches - (IN: Hamill, Clarke and Hansen)

Judd one son · **Joined:** Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:38 pm **Posts:** 183

Quite a broad resume. Sounds like he will be in more of a development role with the coaches than he will with the players. That will remain Power and O'Keefe. Perhaps with an entirely new group of coaches, it's important to have that coaching director to ensure they are gelling together and messages are coming across clearly etc. got no idea about him but let's hope at minimum he can get the umpires on our side :thanks:

Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:54 pm

Isn't Diesel director of coaching

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bluechampion · **Joined:** Fri May 06, 2005 1:40 pm **Posts:** 3447

No. He's the 'football director' - i.e the board member responsible specifically for football.

bondiblue · **Posted:** Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:31 pm

jezzarules wrote:

thryleon wrote:

^^

Are these development roles for him or us?

I.e. we are developing him as an assistant coach, or he is developing our players?

It's effectively Director of Coaching. Similar to Bolton at Collingwood.

Sounds like best practise to me

murraycray · **Posted:** Thu Oct 21, 2021 6:42 am

Certainly doesn't appear to wear out his welcome, anywhere.

Pat's Fitztrick · **Posted:** Thu Oct 21, 2021 11:25 am

But - who is going to oversee the coaching and innovation manager?
How many chiefs, and how many indians?

jezzarules · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:09 pm **Posts:** 5906

Director of coaching and innovation manager?

robertbb · **Joined:** Tue Jun 24, 2014 1:06 pm **Posts:** 9354

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Sydney Blue · **Posted:** Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:27 pm

Another one appointed
Aaron Greaves

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camel · **Posted:** Fri Nov 19, 2021 3:44 pm

jezzarules wrote:

Director of coaching and innovation manager?

Aaron Greaves
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/10319 ... nd-greaves

bender · **Posted:** Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:58 pm

robertbb wrote:

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excellent!!!!!

bondiblue · **Posted:** Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:29 am

Still can't figure out why Betts didn't continue as a part time Development coach/ indigenous liaison.

He was enticed over for that role, plus to escape from the Crows culture.

A superstar with 350 games under his belt and probably the best small forward the game has seen...something not right here.

With Jesse Motlop coming on board as a small forward, Betts' tutelage would've been invaluable for him, perhaps expedited his development, let alone Durdin's, Owies' and Fisher's.

bmaurizio · **Joined:** Thu May 05, 2005 10:49 am **Posts:** 1623

Yup agree very strange, a club champion, questo caso, universal favorite , like Eddie Betts are no let go so easily.
Could it be a consequence of the massive changes in coaching and other club structures recently?

bondiblue · **Posted:** Fri Nov 26, 2021 5:02 pm

bmaurizio wrote:

Yup agree very strange, a club champion, questo caso, universal favorite , like Eddie Betts are no let go so easily.
Could it be a consequence of the massive changes in coaching and other club structures recently?

on the surface it looks that way.

or the offer was pitiful?
or he was pissed off with the removal of Teague?

BlueJean · **Joined:** Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:41 pm **Posts:** 979

bondiblue wrote:

Still can't figure out why Betts didn't continue as a part time Development coach/ indigenous liaison.

He was enticed over for that role, plus to escape from the Crows culture.

A superstar with 350 games under his belt and probably the best small forward the game has seen...something not right here.

With Jesse Motlop coming on board as a small forward, Betts' tutelage would've been invaluable for him, perhaps expedited his development, let alone Durdin's, Owies' and Fisher's.

I think peoples emotions get the better of their reasoning when they rate Betts. Carlton has had many stars over the years but Eddie would probably not feature in my top 50. No premiership player, B and F, captain. Great player and exciting to watch but never achieved the ultimate success in playing in a premiership. It’s people like Diesel who you want around the club. Not Eddie Betts.

GWS · **Posted:** Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:53 pm

BlueJean wrote:

bondiblue wrote:

Still can't figure out why Betts didn't continue as a part time Development coach/ indigenous liaison.

He was enticed over for that role, plus to escape from the Crows culture.

A superstar with 350 games under his belt and probably the best small forward the game has seen...something not right here.

With Jesse Motlop coming on board as a small forward, Betts' tutelage would've been invaluable for him, perhaps expedited his development, let alone Durdin's, Owies' and Fisher's.

I think peoples emotions get the better of their reasoning when they rate Betts. Carlton has had many stars over the years but Eddie would probably not feature in my top 50. No premiership player, B and F, captain. Great player and exciting to watch but never achieved the ultimate success in playing in a premiership. It’s people like Diesel who you want around the club. Not Eddie Betts.

29th highest goal kicker in league history and third highest as a small player and he doesn’t make your top 50 Carlton players?

kingkerna · **Posted:** Fri Nov 26, 2021 10:20 pm

GWS wrote:

BlueJean wrote:

bondiblue wrote:

Still can't figure out why Betts didn't continue as a part time Development coach/ indigenous liaison.

He was enticed over for that role, plus to escape from the Crows culture.

A superstar with 350 games under his belt and probably the best small forward the game has seen...something not right here.

With Jesse Motlop coming on board as a small forward, Betts' tutelage would've been invaluable for him, perhaps expedited his development, let alone Durdin's, Owies' and Fisher's.

I think peoples emotions get the better of their reasoning when they rate Betts. Carlton has had many stars over the years but Eddie would probably not feature in my top 50. No premiership player, B and F, captain. Great player and exciting to watch but never achieved the ultimate success in playing in a premiership. It’s people like Diesel who you want around the club. Not Eddie Betts.

29th highest goal kicker in league history and third highest as a small player and he doesn’t make your top 50 Carlton players?

Best footy was at Adelaide wasn't it?

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ColourMan · **Joined:** Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:51 am **Posts:** 1291

bondiblue wrote:

Still can't figure out why Betts didn't continue as a part time Development coach/ indigenous liaison.

He was enticed over for that role, plus to escape from the Crows culture.

A superstar with 350 games under his belt and probably the best small forward the game has seen...something not right here.

With Jesse Motlop coming on board as a small forward, Betts' tutelage would've been invaluable for him, perhaps expedited his development, let alone Durdin's, Owies' and Fisher's.

Ask Brad Lloyd

GWS · **Posted:** Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:16 am

kingkerna wrote:

GWS wrote:

BlueJean wrote:

bondiblue wrote:

Still can't figure out why Betts didn't continue as a part time Development coach/ indigenous liaison.

He was enticed over for that role, plus to escape from the Crows culture.

A superstar with 350 games under his belt and probably the best small forward the game has seen...something not right here.

With Jesse Motlop coming on board as a small forward, Betts' tutelage would've been invaluable for him, perhaps expedited his development, let alone Durdin's, Owies' and Fisher's.

I think peoples emotions get the better of their reasoning when they rate Betts. Carlton has had many stars over the years but Eddie would probably not feature in my top 50. No premiership player, B and F, captain. Great player and exciting to watch but never achieved the ultimate success in playing in a premiership. It’s people like Diesel who you want around the club. Not Eddie Betts.

29th highest goal kicker in league history and third highest as a small player and he doesn’t make your top 50 Carlton players?

Best footy was at Adelaide wasn't it?

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Does it matter?

It was in the context of Betts taking a coaching role and it then being suggested people overrate him.

He's an AFL all time great.

If you were looking for someone to teach small forward craft I don't think there'd be anyone on the planet better qualified.

Don't care if he played for West Pluto.

bondiblue · **Posted:** Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:22 pm

BlueJean wrote:

bondiblue wrote:

Still can't figure out why Betts didn't continue as a part time Development coach/ indigenous liaison.

He was enticed over for that role, plus to escape from the Crows culture.

A superstar with 350 games under his belt and probably the best small forward the game has seen...something not right here.

With Jesse Motlop coming on board as a small forward, Betts' tutelage would've been invaluable for him, perhaps expedited his development, let alone Durdin's, Owies' and Fisher's.

I think peoples emotions get the better of their reasoning when they rate Betts. Carlton has had many stars over the years but Eddie would probably not feature in my top 50. No premiership player, B and F, captain. Great player and exciting to watch but never achieved the ultimate success in playing in a premiership. It’s people like Diesel who you want around the club. Not Eddie Betts.

Most rate him higher than you BlueJean. Not saying you are wrong, despite thinking contrary to you, and I think you'd be in the minority. Betts knows a bit about forward craft. He got super fit finally, but that was in his 1st year at the Crows. Good one Malthouse.

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