Surely we can't be done already?

Did LOB manage to hang on?

I like the sound of it, wonder if any clubs would be tempted? Lions might be prepared to trade 14 (given they also have 18 this year) plus one of their later picks (50 or 54) and might need some points for F-S Ashcroft in 2022. Not sure if any other club fits the bill.

Big issue will probably be the change to the academy bids this year. Can't match a bid on them until after pick 20, so the value in those picks is now back, rather than the last few years where a late first ended up being a mid-second after bids placed.

Mac Andrew and Mitch Owens are probably just outside the top 10. I could see Andrew sliding (200cm/70kg is going to be a tough development gig for that high a price), but think Dees bought back into the first round for this reason.

Agreed - I think Lions are the best bet given the few list changes they'll be making. Do we also need to have a pick in the first round this year, given we didn't have one last year, or have the AFL clarified that?

You've got my vote

Rumour has it we're open to trading back into the first round this year.

What exactly that entails is anyone's guess...

Apparently has signed on.

Future 1st and 25 for 14 and 18?

After FS picks, Carlton would need to finish higher than 6th for Brisbane to effectively lose that deal on points. A less compromised draft next year may also help.

Ramsay pretty unlucky not to be given a 3rd year considering limited games with Covid.

You need to use a minimum of two first rounders in a rolling 4 year cycle. So no, we don't need to use a first rounder this year (or next for that matter) if we don't want to as we've already used four first rounders across this year's 4 year cycle - 2018 (Walsh & Stocker) and 2019 (Kemp & Philp).

So far out
174cm
176cm
179cm
180cm
182cm
199cm

So far in
187cm
188cm
201cm

The midgets have left the building

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Ah cool, thanks for clarifying!

Thanks.

If we go down that path (ie. we are not delisting or trading anyone else out) I would guess:

- Kennedy goes to the primary list
- Honey, McDonald & Mirkov are retained on the rookie list
- Boyd, Cottrell & Parks are delisted
- we have two live selections in the ND
- we have two live selections in the rookie draft.

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There are no excuses for Carlton in 2022
Once again we have traded away our first rounder for A player who statistically was the 5 th best mid in an average team.
Plus a future 3 rd rounder
As for Ramsay I thought he was a decent player but the club didn’t give him ago
Yet O’Brien hangs on
A @#$%&! joke
Is it because O’Brien was a pick 10
Hewitt is decent but cost us a bit in salary cap


Yep Keogh just been negative again
He has an agenda
Your not positive enough

Well maybe so
But next year is d day for this club
No arguments from everyone here

Our we good enough to not start rebuilding again
Our list strategy suggests the club thinks it is
Don’t forget Cerra had the second best ruckman to rove to
Cerra will have to improve to be worth pick 8 and a third rounder

Gibbo stiff as well
I honestly believe he was an onballer
He showed more footy nous than most of the list
And injury wasn’t taken into account
Hope he and Ramsay gets another crack at it
Reckon Gibbo showed a lot more than Dow and O’Brien combined

Someone on BF says he has re-signed.

I think we paid a bit overs for Cerra. Would’ve preferred to draft a player like Hobbs.
Will be interesting to see who has a better career Cerra or SPS

No Gibbons is very limited. If he's an onballer then he's behind about 8 others. We saw the best he had and it wasn't anywhere near enough.

Fair call...would like to see what Boyd does; effectively a new rookie imo

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Dow pick 3
Cerra pick 5
SPS pick 6
LOB pick 10

....take 6 in the draft and who do you get?

Is Cerra the best of the above list?

How old are they again?

Gotta cut some slack keogh and start judging players after 23yo at least imo.

Everyone develops at a different rate...have to be able to pick that.
Too easy to cut players and suggest Draft is better, but you, like me and others have to realise its all just guess work, with zilch substance.

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