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Who should coach us next year?
Brad Scott 16%  16%  [ 16 ]
Michael Voss 20%  20%  [ 19 ]
Mark Williams 11%  11%  [ 11 ]
Don Pyke 22%  22%  [ 21 ]
Danny Daly 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Scott Burns 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Giansiracusa 5%  5%  [ 5 ]
Jaymie Graham 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Adam Kingsley 16%  16%  [ 16 ]
Adam Yze 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Nigel Lappin 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Jarrad Schofield 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Steven King 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 97
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:16 pm 
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So , if we are throwing mega bucks at Clarkson , why are we not throwing mega bucks at Hardwick ? Just as good .

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 8:46 pm 
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I realise I am damaged.
However, I'm not sure I want Clarkson now. Yes, I realise he is the best coach of the modern era. I just think that if he really doesn't want to do it and we are just putting too much money in front of him to refuse... I'm worried about it being a bit like the Blight/Saints or Malthouse/Carlton experience.

If we get Clarkson, I reckon I'm going to be much more cautious than the excitement I initially felt when we appointed Pagan, Malthouse, Bolton or Teague.
(I remember being annoyed when we got rid of Brittain but at least we were replacing him with an amazing, proven coach! When Ratts got turfed, I thought he may have reached his ceiling but had pretty much delivered on the goals we set for him... but at least we were getting a master psychologist in Malthouse to get inside the soft mushy heads of our prima donnas! I was excited for the proper rebuild we were embarking on under Bolton esp that he was setting about restarting our culture. And then when Teague took over I was optimistic about the attacking style as well as his experience as a stand alone coach and varied assistant roles.
But if Clarkson, I'll remain concerned about his desire... until hopefully we start to see the wins racking up :-). Probably a helathier approach anyway...)



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17th Premiership wrote:
I realise I am damaged.
However, I'm not sure I want Clarkson now. Yes, I realise he is the best coach of the modern era. I just think that if he really doesn't want to do it and we are just putting too much money in front of him to refuse... I'm worried about it being a bit like the Blight/Saints or Malthouse/Carlton experience.

If we get Clarkson, I reckon I'm going to be much more cautious than the excitement I initially felt when we appointed Pagan, Malthouse, Bolton or Teague.
(I remember being annoyed when we got rid of Brittain but at least we were replacing him with an amazing, proven coach! When Ratts got turfed, I thought he may have reached his ceiling but had pretty much delivered on the goals we set for him... but at least we were getting a master psychologist in Malthouse to get inside the soft mushy heads of our prima donnas! I was excited for the proper rebuild we were embarking on under Bolton esp that he was setting about restarting our culture. And then when Teague took over I was optimistic about the attacking style as well as his experience as a stand alone coach and varied assistant roles.
But if Clarkson, I'll remain concerned about his desire... until hopefully we start to see the wins racking up :-). Probably a helathier approach anyway...)


Agree re:Clarkson. I’ve mentioned it previously, I’m worried he doesn’t have the desire and certainly isn’t showing a willingness for the job. It’s more us being the hunter, were as Lyon for instance, showed a passion for the position. Just a little uneasy with all of this.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 9:59 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
I realise I am damaged.
However, I'm not sure I want Clarkson now. Yes, I realise he is the best coach of the modern era. I just think that if he really doesn't want to do it and we are just putting too much money in front of him to refuse... I'm worried about it being a bit like the Blight/Saints or Malthouse/Carlton experience.

If we get Clarkson, I reckon I'm going to be much more cautious than the excitement I initially felt when we appointed Pagan, Malthouse, Bolton or Teague.
(I remember being annoyed when we got rid of Brittain but at least we were replacing him with an amazing, proven coach! When Ratts got turfed, I thought he may have reached his ceiling but had pretty much delivered on the goals we set for him... but at least we were getting a master psychologist in Malthouse to get inside the soft mushy heads of our prima donnas! I was excited for the proper rebuild we were embarking on under Bolton esp that he was setting about restarting our culture. And then when Teague took over I was optimistic about the attacking style as well as his experience as a stand alone coach and varied assistant roles.
But if Clarkson, I'll remain concerned about his desire... until hopefully we start to see the wins racking up :-). Probably a helathier approach anyway...)


Agree re:Clarkson. I’ve mentioned it previously, I’m worried he doesn’t have the desire and certainly isn’t showing a willingness for the job. It’s more us being the hunter, were as Lyon for instance, showed a passion for the position. Just a little uneasy with all of this.

I’m feeling a bit like that too. Clarkson and Hawthorn were fantastic together, but you couldn’t blame him if his belly is full. Maybe after a year off getting paid to do nothing by Kennett the challenge of going up to the Gold Coast will relight the fire. But if he takes the Carlton job now, is he taking it for the right reasons?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:01 pm 
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Footy classified now stating that Brad Scott is the favourite for coach
RL says no hard feelings and decided he didn’t want to do it


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:23 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
Footy classified now stating that Brad Scott is the favourite for coach
RL says no hard feelings and decided he didn’t want to do it
They're so full of shit.

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frank dardew wrote:
Footy classified now stating that Brad Scott is the favourite for coach
RL says no hard feelings and decided he didn’t want to do it


Just speculation but maybe AFL are willing to let Brad Scott go because they really want Carlton to be out of any possible running for Clarkson. The AFL want Clarkson at GC.

None of the candidates mentioned really impress me. If we cant get Clarkson or Lyon then Chris Scott would be my next choice.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:04 am 
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So Lyon pulls out cos he doesn't want to go through the process, yet the media are now saying Brad Scott is the favourite before any process has even begun?
Is Brad Scott going to go through the process or is he just getting offered the job and we are not going through any process?
Assuming what the media are saying is true and I know that is a huge assumption, something doesn't add up here.


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To the powers that be at Cartlton ......... Follow the F@@k1n PROCESS

Hopefully you've got one

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:20 am 
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rhino27 wrote:
So Lyon pulls out cos he doesn't want to go through the process, yet the media are now saying Brad Scott is the favourite before any process has even begun?
Is Brad Scott going to go through the process or is he just getting offered the job and we are not going through any process?
Assuming what the media are saying is true and I know that is a huge assumption, something doesn't add up here.

The media are taking a shotgun approach, it adds up if you look at it like that.
The only people that are in the know are inside Carlton for a change.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:22 am 
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Navy One wrote:
To the powers that be at Cartlton ......... Follow the F@@k1n PROCESS

Hopefully you've got one

I reckon you will find they are, hence all the media speculation.
They literally have no idea what's going on, which is a good thing for us.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:25 am 
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Sidefx wrote:
rhino27 wrote:
So Lyon pulls out cos he doesn't want to go through the process, yet the media are now saying Brad Scott is the favourite before any process has even begun?
Is Brad Scott going to go through the process or is he just getting offered the job and we are not going through any process?
Assuming what the media are saying is true and I know that is a huge assumption, something doesn't add up here.

The media are taking a shotgun approach, it adds up if you look at it like that.
The only people that are in the know are inside Carlton for a change.


Very true. They do make it up as they go along.

As an aside, Caro saying we asked Collingwood for some of their IP on the process they did. She used the word "bizarrely".
I don't think there is anything bizarre about it. Personally I think it is a good strategy to try and "piggy back" off someone who just went through what we did.
Replicate what they did well. Learn and understand what they may not have done well and do things better. Smart move in my book.


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rhino27 wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
rhino27 wrote:
So Lyon pulls out cos he doesn't want to go through the process, yet the media are now saying Brad Scott is the favourite before any process has even begun?
Is Brad Scott going to go through the process or is he just getting offered the job and we are not going through any process?
Assuming what the media are saying is true and I know that is a huge assumption, something doesn't add up here.

The media are taking a shotgun approach, it adds up if you look at it like that.
The only people that are in the know are inside Carlton for a change.


Very true. They do make it up as they go along.

As an aside, Caro saying we asked Collingwood for some of their IP on the process they did. She used the word "bizarrely".
I don't think there is anything bizarre about it. Personally I think it is a good strategy to try and "piggy back" off someone who just went through what we did.
Replicate what they did well. Learn and understand what they may not have done well and do things better. Smart move in my book.

If true, I 100% agree also.
No point trying to rewrite the book every time, especially when the data is out there.
You can only ask I guess.


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Be a 50% chance that no experienced coach will be available as well as no first timer applying. That'd be a first....haha.

Luke Power might be told he has a big job...lol.


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If we do happen to land Clarkson, I'm going to deliver Caro a massive bag of edible dicks, direct to the 9 studio

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:11 am 
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jim wrote:
Be a 50% chance that no experienced coach will be available as well as no first timer applying. That'd be a first....haha.


Where did you pluck that figure from, Jim? Walsh' diary?
I'd suggest there would be a heap of coaches lining up.

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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
If we do happen to land Clarkson, I'm going to deliver Caro a massive bag of edible dicks, direct to the 9 studio

:lol:
I'd like to see that.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:24 am 
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jim wrote:
Be a 50% chance that no experienced coach will be available as well as no first timer applying. That'd be a first....haha.

Luke Power might be told he has a big job...lol.

A so called "supporter" hoping the club fails to get a good coach. Why? I just don't get it.
Teague has gone.
It's time to move on, he has.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:26 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
jim wrote:
Be a 50% chance that no experienced coach will be available as well as no first timer applying. That'd be a first....haha.


Where did you pluck that figure from, Jim? Walsh' diary?
I'd suggest there would be a heap of coaches lining up.


There was a bit of tongue-in-cheek about the post. Plucked the figure out of my arse for the sake of it. Wasn't meant to be that serious hence the "lol".

Still, given our history of swapping coaches and sacking them quick a few first timers would think twice. Why would you given the culture that you would have to get around that no one else has in 20 years, including premiership coaches. Tells me the issue is alot more than coaching, something that hasn't sunk in with many on here. Get sacked and that's likely your career done at head coach level. It's a risk at Carlton. It's alot more than just having a talented list.

If you personally were a potential topline coach would you be happy to come to come to Carlton and be a decent chance of having your career screwed?


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