Actually it shows nothing meaningful in terms of how teams perform on any given week, nor a coaches ability, nor their tactics, hence why over 50 games, all teams are experiencing it frequently enough for it to have happened at minimum 20% of the time, and at maximum 50% of the time.


If you want to see something truly meaningful, have a look at the ladder in terms of who has had the most stability in the coaches chair and how they have performed over time.

That's a meaningful indicator.

Ill give you a clue. Less coaches = more time near the pointy end of the ladder, and more finals appearances (what a shock) oh and just to really show you about your indicator or performance and how meaningful it is, have a look at this. Starting with the Mick Malthouse appointment of 2013:



26 - STK - 3 - Watters, Richardson, Ratten - 2019 to present
25 - GCS - 3 - Mckenna, Eade, Dew (4 if you count Solomon as interim) 2018 to present
24 - ESS - 4 - Hird, Thompson, Woosha, Rutten (6 if you count Egan and Goodwin as interim 2021 to present
23 - CARL - 3 - Malthouse, Bolton, Teague (4 counting Barker as interim) 2019 to present
22 - ADEL - 4 - Sanderson, Walsh, Pyke, Nicks (5 counting Camporeale) 2020 to present
21 - FREM - 2 - Lyon, Longmuir (3 if you include Hale as interim) 2020 to present
19 - HAW - 1 - Clarkson (2 if you include Bolton as an interim) 2005 to present
16 - COLL - 1 - Buckley (2 if you include Harvey as interim) (2012 to present)
16 - NTH - 3 - Brad Scott - Rhys Shaw - David Noble - 2021 to present. (this is what an outlier looks like, but Brad Scott was largely the culture setter there for the previous period).
15 - SYD - 1 - Longmire - 2011 to present
14 - WCE - 2 - Woosha, Simpson 2014 to present(3 if you count Graham as an interim)
14 - RICH - 1 - Hardwick - 2010 to present
13 - GWS - 2 - Sheedy, Cameron 2014 to present
11 - BRIS - 3 - Voss, Leppitsch, Fagan 2016 to present(4 if you count Harvey as interim)
11 - MELB - 3 - Neeld, Roos, Goodwin 2017 to present (4 if you count Craig as interim)
11 - PORT - 1 - Hinkley - 2013 to present
9 - WBD - 2 - Mccartney, Beveridge 2017 to present
7 - GEEL - 1 - Chris Scott - 2010 to present


What this shows is as follows:

Coaches that coach longer, have less 5+ goal run ons on average but even the best of the lot hasnt ironed them out completely (Clarkson).

Teams that havent had a revolving door are more likely to have played finals footy in the last couple of years, and gone deeper into the finals series.

There are outliers that occur, where a team like North Melbourne, finished last, and second last in the last 2 seasons, and still dont concede 5+ goal run ons (which point to this indicator losing any real meaning).

Teams that have had 2 or fewer coaches in since 2013 have finished top 4 or played in a grand final/won one which is even more of a reason to back a coach in over a longer period of time if you want to achieve some real results.



THIS is how these sorts of indicators should be interpreted. Not the way you guys are applying that argument. We could still lose the exact same amount of games, moving where and when we scored, by the exact same scoreline, and these 5+ run ons vanish and are a misnomer.

Very disappointed Lyon pulled out of the race.
Not a Don Pyke fan.
If Geelong lose on the weekend, I would like Carlton do everything to get Chris Scott to Carlton.

Pfft Clarkson and Hardwick could barely win a game in their first two years pretty much was the same with Bomber Thompson.

Buckley was pretty much the same as well sliding down the ladder and stopped the rot when he got his players in after giving up big draft capital.

Teague had a superior win/loss than anything Carlton has seen past 10 years and with a crippled injury list playing rookies for 10 games + a year would have been nice to see him given a chance.

These clubs have a superior culture to ours - end of story.

I agree with what you say Walshy, except you think Teague had a lot more to offer a lot more than he had if not for:

Injuries to key players : Charlie Marchbank Docherty Cripps Levi Williams Fisher Cuningham DeKoning Pittonet Gov Silvagni
Having to play undeveloped Ist Rnd picks: Dow, SPS, OBrien, Fisher
Lack of defensive intent by some players:....
Playing players taking games away from kids...when they don't make a huge difference.

But you have to let go, and move forward. Just like you, none of us know if you're vibe is right or wrong.

Its better to look for what we need to do to plug the gaps we have on our list, not worry everyone crazy about your 'feel' for the Board and its failures.

Banter and anarchical tendencies are understandable when anonymity allows us to feel protected. But none of us know if Teague would have or would not been better for us. Teage's gone, and I still barrack for Carlton and not Teague.

No matter what anyone thinks, we need to get the best coach available. Period. Who?

If Geelong lose on the weekend, I would like Carlton do everything to get Chris Scott to Carlton.

Why
The guy is wrong on all fronts
He is outdated
He refused to change his outdated game style and consequently his last 4 years were a mess at Fremantle
33% win loss record

He only got on with naturally highly motivated players
He treated all players the same. You can’t do that in 2021

He was up on a sexual harassment allegation
The lady in question was paid hush up money to keep quiet
Whether he had something to answer for or not he is damaged goods
So dude
Get into the year 2022 and beyond
Lyon is a relic
The fact that Sayers talked to him shows how out of touch he is
Patty for President

I agree with what you say Walshy, except you think Teague had a lot more to offer a lot more than he had if not for:

Injuries to key players : Charlie Marchbank Docherty Cripps Levi Williams Fisher Cuningham DeKoning Pittonet Gov Silvagni
Having to play undeveloped Ist Rnd picks: Dow, SPS, OBrien, Fisher
Lack of defensive intent by some players:....
Playing players taking games away from kids...when they don't make a huge difference.

But you have to let go, and move forward. Just like you, none of us know if you're vibe is right or wrong.

Its better to look for what we need to do to plug the gaps we have on our list, not worry everyone crazy about your 'feel' for the Board and its failures.

Banter and anarchical tendencies are understandable when anonymity allows us to feel protected. But none of us know if Teague would have or would not been better for us. Teage's gone, and I still barrack for Carlton and not Teague.

No matter what anyone thinks, we need to get the best coach available. Period. Who?

Don’t encourage him , Bolton is a fair comparison to hardwick and Clarko early years , because the club wanted to do a total rebuild , and when Teague took over he had a team to work with and he fked it and was exposed for lack of ability , it’s that plain simple

So please stop agreeing with Walsh he sits outside ikon park everyday waiting for tegaue to come back ..

Footy Classified
Hutchy hatches an ingenious scheme to get Clarko to Carlton. It involves securing Cook, no committee, Clarko 23 onwards with Yze as a support coach in 2022.

Caroline Wilson responds with a snigger.
"I think that plan (giggles/laughs) is being carried out at the Gold Coast. I think Gillon McLachlin is working on Clarkson as we speak and has been for some time to get him to the Gold Coast."

Here we go again - the AFL will step in to give added assistance to their preferred teams- whether it be Brisbane, Gold Coast or GWS.
For Wilson, the Gold Coast is more important. "I think there would be a lot more money on offer" It's a "more important job" for Clarko too according to Wilson.

This gives you an insight into the modern day AFL - the needs of Carlton are peripheral. If Carlton ever starts winning again - it would be a team sticking it up a competition leadership that feels it is at the bottom of the chain.

Expand it out further for another 10 years.

List the premiership victories, vs the number of coaches.

As far as the burner account, I am actually neither here nor there on coaching change. If the review shows Teague goes, he goes. The 5 goals run on is and will be a meaningless statistic that says more about where a team finished than where they didnt.

Extrapolating meaning from patterns if fraught with danger, for a variety of reasons but it smells of bias to me.

As for Bondi's analysis, are we really going to draw on Bolton laid the groundwork for Teagues success by achieving a win rate of 4 in 40 matches?

The increasing losing margins later... When rucking JSOS and De Koning in a tandem isnt worth the comparison test.

Very disappointed Lyon pulled out of the race.
Not a Don Pyke fan.
If Geelong lose on the weekend, I would like Carlton do everything to get Chris Scott to Carlton.

In the mid-2000s, something special was beginning to happen down at Kardinia Park. Quietly and assuredly, coach Mark Thompson was building a team that would become premiership powerhouse. It was a team that would go on to bring home three flags within five years during the most successful period in the club’s history.

Bolton would probably do quite well if he came back for another go now.

Its not Teague - albeit Teague is symbolic on the clubs situation we have huge cultural problems and you have to be blind not to see it. Sayers is just exasperating these problems of the stench this board has bought upon us past 15 years

Bolton would probably do quite well if he came back for another go now.