This is all turning to madness.

It’s not madness, we just literally announced the panel for the coaching selection.

Ross didn’t want to go through a diligent process. That’s his choice, obviously reasons why.

It doesn’t mean we don’t have any other candidates lined up.

Its been madness since lo giudice declared the review public.

The arrogant Carlton supporters from times past keep thinking we have this under control, we are being ruthless like we should etc, but we just look like a reactive unprofessional organisation that's completely out of touch with modern times.

Its pandemonium.

The people we thought are gettable aren't. Now we pin our hopes to Brian Cook coming across and bringing Chris Scott with him from Geelong?

in your opinion.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Incorrect. Ross had the job, if Clarko didn’t want it.
Problem was our management kept chasing a person not interested and stretching the appointment out. Add the political influence behind the scenes - again - by our CEO and his sidekick, it all ended up in an absolute embarrassing disaster - again. Don’t blame Ross for walking away. Joke of a process.

Do you think we could have an external review and keep it quiet?
Had we tried and the news inevitably leaked out into the public, no doubt you would have whinged about that as well.
Normally I'd be happy to debate the issues but I must admit, I despise skulking flowers turning up here out of the blue, claiming innocence, with no intention other than to push a rebel boards agenda.
Must be an old age thing.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Everything is just media speculation. So what we spoke to Clarkson and Lyon. Of course we were going too.

All the supposed shambles is the media doing as we haven’t really said anything.

What gets me is how Carolyn Wilson is finding out things? We have a bad leaker trying to make us look bad - thats the problem.

it's amusing you think a rebel board is a bad thing with what is happening at the club past 20 years. So much mediocrity can affect supporters too, I guess,

You've obviously been hanging around our newly active agitators Surrey. Any danger of you having any proof whatsoever for any of it or do you just drop bombs and walk away like them?

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

I'm happy to look at alternative board options. What is there to assess?
That's right. @#$%&! all.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Well thats quite the opposite of what you insinuated before. And before you dismiss everything just be patient and wait and then make a judgement. Seems you have already made one without surveying all the facts. Isn't that your strong point?

Without surveying the facts?
There are no facts. And when I ask you to produce them, you fail to.
But I'll happily wait until these ghosts arrive. In the interim how about you stop having 50 pot shots at the current board/administration per day and I'll happily stop getting involved.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Maybe the rebel ticket has convinced clarko to join the Carlton board.... And that's why he's playing coy...

Or maybe we are poaching eddie McGuire?

All will be revealed!!!

I know what I have been told BV. I've also learnt no use arguing with posters on such discussion as it gets you nowhere. You certainty don't have to listen to what I have to say. Things will be uncovered long term and you can make up your mind about what I say.

Facts as i know them:

Board called a review of the football department
Only spokesperson during the review was the coach
Members were told we would be advised of the results of the review
Senior coach sacked as a result of the review
4th coach sacked in 10 years
President announced he would be replaced by an experienced coach wiht a more defensive mindset
President announced finals were the expectation in 2022

As a passionate and patient supporter for 55 years i am prepared to once again let the new faces have a chance. However, 2022 must be the year of significant turnaround.

I would hope Luke and the board are feeling an enormous sense of responsibility and pressure to deliver.

Given a similar background to Luke, i sense i understand what he is trying to do. To date i am encouraged, yet far from inspired.

I know you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about me, but you might want to have a look at how long I've been registered rather than how active I've been.

This account was created in 2008!

I thought Gerard Whateley made a good point on 360. Process is fine when appointing our coach, but if we’re going through a process the head hunting needs to stop (if it’s happening). As long as every other candidate feels like a back-up option to Clarkson, we’ll struggle to attract the best candidates.
There has to be a point, pretty much now IMO, where we say we’ve kicked the tyres enough on Clarkson, Lyon, Scott, Buckley etc and now we open it up for any other suitable candidates and let the process run.

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Once upon a time, the coaches would have been knocking down our door to get their foot in, now ...... well it makes me sad what we have become.
This one is on the board for not knowing when to 'stop and walk away' and Sayers for not being strong enough to lead at this instance.

I'd like to know how come they would feel like the back up to Clarkson?
Clarkson has said he isn't coaching next season, true or not that was HIS public statement.
So moving forward, the media produced Lyon as next best choice based on the fact he was the next most experienced and threw his own hat into the ring.
The club never said he was second option and the club made sure to clarify they are looking for not only an experienced coach, but also covering all bases with all coaches through a thorough process.
So as far as I can see it is exactly what they have told the media hounds and it's still not good enough, because they don't know what's going on and can't break a story.

Ive been told I will win the lottery if I buy a ticket... Is that a guarantee Surrey?

Ive been called out on this site for "suggesting" things without factual basis (and I accepted that, but also prefaced my comments based on a history of what has transpired with this footy club).

So cough up evidence or its just fluff and bubble...

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