The Luke Sayers board - Sayers steps down 22/1/25

Sidefx · **Joined:** Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:55 pm **Posts:** 7778

Paddycripps wrote:

They would want to get Clarkson now because every day this drags on it doesn't exactly do wonders for the brand

And this here is the key and could be the turning point.
If Clarkson has fears about any part of the club not being in line together, the board might let him have hold of the axe and let him do whatever needs to be done to turn this around.
A massacre could well be on the cards.

Sidefx · **Joined:** Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:55 pm **Posts:** 7778

GWS wrote:

sinbagger wrote:

bluehammer wrote:

Clarko coach.
Neil Balme list manager
Darren Milburn senior assistant
Sean Denham midfield coach
Dean Wallis in charge of spreadsheets.

Maybe have a chat to Stan Magro and Sharrod Wellingham too.

No room for J Hird?

“High” performance: J Hird

Real high.
We should just call Dank for "injury" rehabilitation, he sounds legit.

GWS · **Posted:** Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:43 am

Scotty12000 wrote:

buzzaaaah wrote:

The board members backing Teague need to publicly explain themselves.

I don't personally know one Calton supporter who wants to Teague to stay, and I know a lot of Carlton supporters.

There's an absolute shit ton of the wowsers on Facebook, mainly reposting the same Clarko-Dimma-Teague comparison without context and parroting the "disgraceful" "disrepsectiful" "spinless" "sack the board/no support" agenda from the media.

I think if you look closer you’ll find most of those accounts are just Walsh aliases. :lol:

WOW · **Joined:** Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:17 pm **Posts:** 2117

Scotty12000 wrote:

WOW wrote:

buzzaaaah wrote:

The board members backing Teague need to publicly explain themselves.

I don't personally know one Calton supporter who wants to Teague to stay, and I know a lot of Carlton supporters.

Don’t think Carlton supporters have much influence on who should be coach.

Although, agree if Teague is retained, there should a clear explanation as to what went wrong this year and what will change to ensure we get better going forward.

They did in getting him hired in the first place - it wasn't an advertising firm which developed the 'Teague Train' brand on his behalf...

And where did that get us. Although, I think the players had a bigger say.

Either way, we are a basket case.

Walsh · **Joined:** Sat Jun 08, 2019 5:55 pm **Posts:** 2333

GWS wrote:

Scotty12000 wrote:

buzzaaaah wrote:

The board members backing Teague need to publicly explain themselves.

I don't personally know one Calton supporter who wants to Teague to stay, and I know a lot of Carlton supporters.

There's an absolute shit ton of the wowsers on Facebook, mainly reposting the same Clarko-Dimma-Teague comparison without context and parroting the "disgraceful" "disrepsectiful" "spinless" "sack the board/no support" agenda from the media.

I think if you look closer you’ll find most of those accounts are just Walsh aliases. :lol:

You wish - I don't have a facebook account.

Im just waiting for the saltiness and lolz and already appearing.

Paddycripps · **Joined:** Mon Jun 01, 2015 5:55 pm **Posts:** 4435

The only way any of this can be justified in my opinion is if they're actually waiting for Clarkson to give a thorough presentation. That would be so un-Carlton and could explain the wait. Not just Clarkson but Teague also. We know he's been asked to present his views on the review which is essentially pitching to retain his job.

I don't like the club's handling of Teague, making him sit and wait on tenterhooks. If it's part of a proper process and by that I mean all parties pitching their wares in depth then I can handle that.

If it's simply because Clarkson hasn't decided yet then I think that reflects poorly on the club for how this impacts Teague who right now is an employee of the club. It's disrespectful.

Scotty12000 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:33 am

Walsh wrote:

GWS wrote:

Scotty12000 wrote:

buzzaaaah wrote:

The board members backing Teague need to publicly explain themselves.

I don't personally know one Calton supporter who wants to Teague to stay, and I know a lot of Carlton supporters.

There's an absolute shit ton of the wowsers on Facebook, mainly reposting the same Clarko-Dimma-Teague comparison without context and parroting the "disgraceful" "disrepsectiful" "spinless" "sack the board/no support" agenda from the media.

I think if you look closer you’ll find most of those accounts are just Walsh aliases. :lol:

You wish - I don't have a facebook account.

Im just waiting for the saltiness and lolz and already appearing.

The two major shareholders of Saxa right now are Teague and Pickers

Cazzesman · **Posted:** Tue Aug 24, 2021 11:59 am

Paddycripps wrote:

I don't like the club's handling of Teague, making him sit and wait on tenterhooks. If it's part of a proper process and by that I mean all parties pitching their wares in depth then I can handle that.

If it's simply because Clarkson hasn't decided yet then I think that reflects poorly on the club for how this impacts Teague who right now is an employee of the club. It's disrespectful.

It is only disrespectful if they haven't kept Teague informed of what is happening. Teague knows Clarkson is first choice at this stage of their relative careers. If Sayers has said look we have asked Clarkson to Coach, then I'm sure Teague would understand and except that.

If Sayers has the opportunity to land Clarkson then he owes to the club to see it through.

Teague has now rightfully gone quiet. It is only his loudmouth Manager that has gone off in the Media. Historically with Pickering you are never sure if he is doing it for the benefit of the Person he represents or the benefit of Pickering's image.

If there is even 1% chance that Teague keeps A Job at Carlton what is the point in burning bridges between Cripps and Teague. Airing the dirty laundry while things are still in a state of flux befits no-one really except Pickering's Image of the hard man gobbing off into the wind.

Look at it logically, what is the benefit of publicly driving a wedge between Cripps and Teague right now?

Regards Cazzesman

CK95 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:10 pm

Maybe Cripps & Teague have had a massive falling out post review & it's a parting shot.

Just playing devil's avocado.

Cazzesman · **Posted:** Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:25 pm

CK95 wrote:

Maybe Cripps & Teague have had a massive falling out post review & it's a parting shot.

Just playing devil's avocado.

Maybe. But burning bridges in the AFL is just plain dumb. It's all about who you know and the fish pond job market is still relatively small.

AFL Lifers just move from club to club to club. So be careful who you trash talk on the way down because you just mind need their nod of approval on your way back up. You need heavy hitters in your corner and you need mentors to vouch for you.

The old adage....'If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.' rings true. There are only 18 Coaching positions and probably on average 6 assistants per club. So approx 110+ positions. Those that have been burned or belittled all have long memories in the AFL.

Regards Cazzesman

CK95 · **Posted:** Tue Aug 24, 2021 12:34 pm

I agree. I work in a bit of a fish pond job market myself so I'm hearing ya.

But the last 18 months has made a lot of adults do some dumb shit, & made a lot of friendships & relationships fall to pieces.

Anyway it was just a thought. I think you're probably right & it was just Pickering being a dick. Never thought too highly of the guy since he appeared on the footy show on the Thurs before the 95 GF taking the piss & laughing like a schoolkid. I mean the Bradley goal in the first was good, but a part of me knew we had it on the Thursday night :lol:

azzablue · **Joined:** Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:23 am **Posts:** 1566

Cazzesman wrote:

Paddycripps wrote:

I don't like the club's handling of Teague, making him sit and wait on tenterhooks. If it's part of a proper process and by that I mean all parties pitching their wares in depth then I can handle that.

If it's simply because Clarkson hasn't decided yet then I think that reflects poorly on the club for how this impacts Teague who right now is an employee of the club. It's disrespectful.

It is only disrespectful if they haven't kept Teague informed of what is happening. Teague knows Clarkson is first choice at this stage of their relative careers. If Sayers has said look we have asked Clarkson to Coach, then I'm sure Teague would understand and except that.

If Sayers has the opportunity to land Clarkson then he owes to the club to see it through.

Teague has now rightfully gone quiet. It is only his loudmouth Manager that has gone off in the Media. Historically with Pickering you are never sure if he is doing it for the benefit of the Person he represents or the benefit of Pickering's image.

If there is even 1% chance that Teague keeps A Job at Carlton what is the point in burning bridges between Cripps and Teague. Airing the dirty laundry while things are still in a state of flux befits no-one really except Pickering's Image of the hard man gobbing off into the wind.

Look at it logically, what is the benefit of publicly driving a wedge between Cripps and Teague right now?

Regards Cazzesman

Teague will not
Coach Carlton again …. I know Walsh will be upset but there has to be collateral damage to all this ,

Mickstar · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:40 pm **Posts:** 8378

Cazzesman wrote:

CK95 wrote:

Maybe Cripps & Teague have had a massive falling out post review & it's a parting shot.

Just playing devil's avocado.

Maybe. But burning bridges in the AFL is just plain dumb. It's all about who you know and the fish pond job market is still relatively small.

AFL Lifers just move from club to club to club. So be careful who you trash talk on the way down because you just mind need their nod of approval on your way back up. You need heavy hitters in your corner and you need mentors to vouch for you.

The old adage....'If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.' rings true. There are only 18 Coaching positions and probably on average 6 assistants per club. So approx 110+ positions. Those that have been burned or belittled all have long memories in the AFL.

Regards Cazzesman

Yep , and for those 110 positions there would be a 1000 who would jump at the chance .

azzablue · **Joined:** Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:23 am **Posts:** 1566

Mickstar wrote:

Cazzesman wrote:

CK95 wrote:

Maybe Cripps & Teague have had a massive falling out post review & it's a parting shot.

Just playing devil's avocado.

Maybe. But burning bridges in the AFL is just plain dumb. It's all about who you know and the fish pond job market is still relatively small.

AFL Lifers just move from club to club to club. So be careful who you trash talk on the way down because you just mind need their nod of approval on your way back up. You need heavy hitters in your corner and you need mentors to vouch for you.

The old adage....'If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.' rings true. There are only 18 Coaching positions and probably on average 6 assistants per club. So approx 110+ positions. Those that have been burned or belittled all have long memories in the AFL.

Regards Cazzesman

Yep , and for those 110 positions there would be a 1000 who would jump at the chance .

Absolutely, Teague got poor advice to the end ,,, poor legacy to leave when you let your manager insult your captain in the media .... thankfully it’s over

Mickstar · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:40 pm **Posts:** 8378

Why the hell would Teague have Pickering as his manager ? another poor choice .

azzablue · **Joined:** Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:23 am **Posts:** 1566

Mickstar wrote:

Why the hell would Teague have Pickering as his manager ? another poor choice .

Let’s timeline this in all honesty

Liddle the money maker and Teague cut a deal , in 2019

Liddle promises to get him the head coach for his support when needed

Teague agrees with llyod to be there own posse

Liddle knows MLG is obesssed in making the club debt free

Liddle showing the club he is making in roads on that and gets more power

Liddle makes his power move on SOS knowing that sos wants Lyon or experienced coach to come in after bolts

liddle convinces board that tegaue on the cheap and natural development results will work out on the field ( proof we start winning in 2019) , good for the club to keep clearing debt

Covid 2020 hides teagues flaws due to hub but proof is there in a lot of games he can’t coach

Robert walls does a review end of 2020 early 2021 , doesn’t rate Teague

Caroline Wilson with all her sources , calls out before the season starts Teague not a fav at the club and Clarko won’t be at hawks in 2022

And here we are another season of waste

Teagues poor choices were from the very start when he sided with liddle to the very end and letting pickers be his mouthpiece , the results are in and Sayers it looks like so far is a very shrewd person and he has been waiting for his move to be president and be the president that takes us forward and clearing out the deadwood

camel · **Posted:** Tue Aug 24, 2021 3:15 pm

Mickstar wrote:

Why the hell would Teague have Pickering as his manager ? another poor choice .

I think Teague had 5 or more other choices ahead of Pickering but they all rushed past him in a row before he could stop them.

kezza · **Joined:** Thu May 11, 2006 6:11 pm **Posts:** 15294

camel wrote:

Mickstar wrote:

Why the hell would Teague have Pickering as his manager ? another poor choice .

I think Teague had 5 or more other choices ahead of Pickering but they all rushed past him in a row before he could stop them.

Navy Blue Horse · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:39 pm **Posts:** 15848

Bit of recent action on BigFooty fwiw:

Fernando2Gibbs wrote:

Sayers gets what he wants. C & C.

barass70 wrote:

only handful will survive

Just Kreuzing wrote:

Yep, and could mean Ross Lyon is out of the equation..... Clarko about to “travel” to PP

Canyouhearthedrums wrote:

I'm guessing Russell and Power are the only two of note left standing

reply:

barass70 wrote:

Very close

goreds wrote:

Nice work barass70. Just want to know about Liddle... In or Out?

reply:

barass70 wrote:

Good chance out

Forty3 wrote:

Austin is safe.

Sidefx · **Joined:** Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:55 pm **Posts:** 7778

CK95 wrote:

Maybe Cripps & Teague have had a massive falling out post review & it's a parting shot.

Just playing devil's avocado.

I like it on bread cut into little squares. :grin:

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