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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:07 pm 
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azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Rod Waddell wrote:
diesel95 wrote:
Here's a snapshot of why this maggot has no class and no style. If drip lyon get's to be our coach, I stop caring.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/ ... de=premium

I don't have access to The Filth website and it's pay-walled crap. But the caption and image say it all.


Why he's only stating the bleeding obvious.

Did Teague have any class and style when Bolton was under the gun? What did he and his fellow assistants do to help Bolton out of his jam? What fantastic game plan did they throw up? What extra work did they do to help develop the players?

Teague walked on Bolton's carcass as he accepted the interim job. He was no better a coach than what Bolton may have been. Bolton played the kids rightly or wrongly as instructed. A lot of the heavy lifting was done and in return plenty of Bolton undermining towards the end of his tenure.

All's fair in love and war.


Fallacy - it was the players that wanted Bolton out.

Nothing to do with Teague.


You really do believe what you want to do believe,,


Never underestimate power of a playing group - they'll march coaches out the door quicker than a rabbit gets ^%$&. Bolton admitted he overschooled them and treated them like school children not footballers.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:15 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
Rod Waddell wrote:
diesel95 wrote:
Here's a snapshot of why this maggot has no class and no style. If drip lyon get's to be our coach, I stop caring.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/ ... de=premium

I don't have access to The Filth website and it's pay-walled crap. But the caption and image say it all.


Why he's only stating the bleeding obvious.

Did Teague have any class and style when Bolton was under the gun? What did he and his fellow assistants do to help Bolton out of his jam? What fantastic game plan did they throw up? What extra work did they do to help develop the players?

Teague walked on Bolton's carcass as he accepted the interim job. He was no better a coach than what Bolton may have been. Bolton played the kids rightly or wrongly as instructed. A lot of the heavy lifting was done and in return plenty of Bolton undermining towards the end of his tenure.

All's fair in love and war.


Fallacy - it was the players that wanted Bolton out.

Nothing to do with Teague.


Much the same way they pretty much want him out now.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:17 pm 
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Rod Waddell wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Rod Waddell wrote:
diesel95 wrote:
Here's a snapshot of why this maggot has no class and no style. If drip lyon get's to be our coach, I stop caring.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/ ... de=premium

I don't have access to The Filth website and it's pay-walled crap. But the caption and image say it all.


Why he's only stating the bleeding obvious.

Did Teague have any class and style when Bolton was under the gun? What did he and his fellow assistants do to help Bolton out of his jam? What fantastic game plan did they throw up? What extra work did they do to help develop the players?

Teague walked on Bolton's carcass as he accepted the interim job. He was no better a coach than what Bolton may have been. Bolton played the kids rightly or wrongly as instructed. A lot of the heavy lifting was done and in return plenty of Bolton undermining towards the end of his tenure.

All's fair in love and war.


Fallacy - it was the players that wanted Bolton out.

Nothing to do with Teague.


Much the same way they pretty much want him out now.


No need to make things up - relationship with players is one of his strengths - like all good coaches.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:24 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
Rod Waddell wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Rod Waddell wrote:
diesel95 wrote:
Here's a snapshot of why this maggot has no class and no style. If drip lyon get's to be our coach, I stop caring.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/ ... de=premium

I don't have access to The Filth website and it's pay-walled crap. But the caption and image say it all.


Why he's only stating the bleeding obvious.

Did Teague have any class and style when Bolton was under the gun? What did he and his fellow assistants do to help Bolton out of his jam? What fantastic game plan did they throw up? What extra work did they do to help develop the players?

Teague walked on Bolton's carcass as he accepted the interim job. He was no better a coach than what Bolton may have been. Bolton played the kids rightly or wrongly as instructed. A lot of the heavy lifting was done and in return plenty of Bolton undermining towards the end of his tenure.

All's fair in love and war.


Fallacy - it was the players that wanted Bolton out.

Nothing to do with Teague.


Much the same way they pretty much want him out now.


No need to make things up - relationship with players is one of his strengths - like all good coaches.


Cripps and him are rock solid are they?? !! Give me a break ...

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:28 pm 
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azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Rod Waddell wrote:
diesel95 wrote:
Here's a snapshot of why this maggot has no class and no style. If drip lyon get's to be our coach, I stop caring.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/subscribe/ ... de=premium

I don't have access to The Filth website and it's pay-walled crap. But the caption and image say it all.


Why he's only stating the bleeding obvious.

Did Teague have any class and style when Bolton was under the gun? What did he and his fellow assistants do to help Bolton out of his jam? What fantastic game plan did they throw up? What extra work did they do to help develop the players?

Teague walked on Bolton's carcass as he accepted the interim job. He was no better a coach than what Bolton may have been. Bolton played the kids rightly or wrongly as instructed. A lot of the heavy lifting was done and in return plenty of Bolton undermining towards the end of his tenure.

All's fair in love and war.


Fallacy - it was the players that wanted Bolton out.

Nothing to do with Teague.


Much the same way they pretty much want him out now.


No need to make things up - relationship with players is one of his strengths - like all good coaches.


Cripps and him are rock solid are they?? !! Give me a break ...[/quote]

Good relationship doesn't mean being bed buddies. I have heard Teague has been cracking in to the leaders at the club all year and only a couple have stood up to what is acceptable leadership standards.

I see absolutely nothing wrong challenging leaders in the team to take the club by the scruff. If players need a kick up the ass as footballers then Teague will give it dont worry about that.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:34 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
I think it is part of due process I think it is appropriate to ask the present incumbents what is their response to the findings and given an opportunity to defend or advocate their position in contrast with the review findings

Then even if you make the decision ultimately to terminate you have given these people a chance to respond to the criticism in the report

I also agree that for too long we have danced to media tune and you can’t win with them any way


100% agree ... first thing we have done for a while that presents well


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 1:44 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
In fact it would be more disrespectful not to allow Teague to respond to the report
He needs to be able to challenge the report
The additional advantage of this is the board then can say they made their decision after not just getting the report but after hearing what the coach has to say in response ie in making the decisions they have all the information required including the response of the coach to the report and it’s findings

They can also say that a decision was not made until the had all evidence including the coaches presumably counter -arguments in response to the review

This is smart by Sayers and no amount of media baying for someone’s blood or Kingus hand wringing and Gerards moral compass bleatings detract from that

If the had any semblance of how these things should be done properly and according to due process they would be supporting Sayers approach


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:06 pm 
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Still tells me they are waiting on an answer from Clarko. If Clarko says he wants a year off then Teague might fulfil his contract with alot more support around him. If they simply wanted to sacked Teague he would be gone already today as there's plenty of prospective coaches out there. That's what every other club does. They don't wait as they know if they want the coach or not. The fact they haven't tells me they me they are waiting on Clarko.

Not sure they'll follow up on Lyon as his sexual harassment issue at Freo does go against "Carlton Respects" policy.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:12 pm 
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jim wrote:
Still tells me they are waiting on an answer from Clarko. If Clarko says he wants a year off then Teague might fulfil his contract with alot more support around him. If they simply wanted to sacked Teague he would be gone already today as there's plenty of prospective coaches out there. That's what every other club does. They don't wait as they know if they want the coach or not. The fact they haven't tells me they me they are waiting on Clarko.

Not sure they'll follow up on Lyon as his sexual harassment issue at Freo does go against "Carlton Respects" policy.

Now that’s funny … the Ross Lyon thing is garbage

There are only 2 candidates for Carlton in 2022 , and there is no one else

Lyon or clarko ,,, if afl convince clarko to help the gc , it’s Lyon for us

It’s a no brainier …

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:19 pm 
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azzablue wrote:
jim wrote:
Still tells me they are waiting on an answer from Clarko. If Clarko says he wants a year off then Teague might fulfil his contract with alot more support around him. If they simply wanted to sacked Teague he would be gone already today as there's plenty of prospective coaches out there. That's what every other club does. They don't wait as they know if they want the coach or not. The fact they haven't tells me they me they are waiting on Clarko.

Not sure they'll follow up on Lyon as his sexual harassment issue at Freo does go against "Carlton Respects" policy.

Now that’s funny … the Ross Lyon thing is garbage

There are only 2 candidates for Carlton in 2022 , and there is no one else

Lyon or clarko ,,, if afl convince clarko to help the gc , it’s Lyon for us

It’s a no brainier …


Do your research. it wasn't garbage. How do you not know that? You new to football?

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/ross-l ... e00125bc89

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-11/ ... nt/9751052

It is funny but you're the butt of the joke this time. I know I'm laughing at you.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:35 pm 
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jim wrote:
azzablue wrote:
jim wrote:
Still tells me they are waiting on an answer from Clarko. If Clarko says he wants a year off then Teague might fulfil his contract with alot more support around him. If they simply wanted to sacked Teague he would be gone already today as there's plenty of prospective coaches out there. That's what every other club does. They don't wait as they know if they want the coach or not. The fact they haven't tells me they me they are waiting on Clarko.

Not sure they'll follow up on Lyon as his sexual harassment issue at Freo does go against "Carlton Respects" policy.

Now that’s funny … the Ross Lyon thing is garbage

There are only 2 candidates for Carlton in 2022 , and there is no one else

Lyon or clarko ,,, if afl convince clarko to help the gc , it’s Lyon for us

It’s a no brainier …


Do your research. it wasn't garbage. How do you not know that? You new to football?

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/ross-l ... e00125bc89

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-11/ ... nt/9751052

It is funny but you're the butt of the joke this time. I know I'm laughing at you.


Maybe you need to read the boys club ...and how many in the afl where these has been cover up and pay outs

Look at the ch7 footy
Commentary team

So the joke is on you for being so naive... but good try ,, you did make me laugh

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:39 pm 
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Cazzesman wrote:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/carlton-blues/afl-news-2021-ross-lyon-vs-liam-pickering-carlton-coach-grubby-interview-david-teague-press-conference/news-story/0e244acda650c33f3c335ec85bef9775

For info.

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Pickering is fair dinkum kidding himself. Once a chucker, always a chucker.

Spot on from Lyon.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 3:57 pm 
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Crusader wrote:
Cazzesman wrote:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/carlton-blues/afl-news-2021-ross-lyon-vs-liam-pickering-carlton-coach-grubby-interview-david-teague-press-conference/news-story/0e244acda650c33f3c335ec85bef9775

For info.

Regards Cazzesman

Pickering is fair dinkum kidding himself. Once a chucker, always a chucker.

Spot on from Lyon.

Pickering is like saul from breaking bad ( I’m watching that during lockdown ) , as long as you pay him , he will say anything …

Actually thinking about it now Saul had more morals ..

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:16 pm 
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Sam Edmund reporting that there is a chance we retain Teague for next year as we have cooled on Ross Lyon in the past 24 hrs.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:20 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
Sam Edmund reporting that there is a chance we retain Teague for next year as we have cooled on Ross Lyon in the past 24 hrs.

Imagine if that happened, then all the vultures sniping the board for having due process will need to about face pretty quickly.
Fingers crossed it's not true though.


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Drewgirl wrote:
Sam Edmund reporting that there is a chance we retain Teague for next year as we have cooled on Ross Lyon in the past 24 hrs.


Horrible scenario IMO. He spends an entire year as a dead man walking. Under the microscope with every loss. Awful prospect.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:28 pm 
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Well something has given them cold feet. They probably think Clarko or nothing now. Spineless board this one. No wonder we are so shit. Get ready for another year of scrutiny on Teague and he clearly cannot handle it. Fun times.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 23, 2021 6:28 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
Sam Edmund reporting that there is a chance we retain Teague for next year as we have cooled on Ross Lyon in the past 24 hrs.


im actually okay with this.

the scenario as i see it is this.

1. Clarkson ... and i think even Teague would have to see that would be a preferred option for many reasons
2. Teague with a 12-24 month extension with the priviso of getting the right people around him ... zero point going into next season with only a 12 month contact otherwise the minute we lose ... it will be the feeding frenzy once more (its probably going to be that regardless to be honest)


i have really gone off the Lyon scenario, just dont think he has, nor does he handle the media well ... even listening to him on the radio over the weekend, its concerning. just not the right fit. But most importantly, i doesnt seem a long term solution. I just feel like if we did get a flag in the next 2 years, he would run the club into the ground trying to get another one, and then ship off, like he did at the saints and freo ... im really struggling to want him at the club. It just doesnt feel like a 7 to 10 year affiliation .. and i think its as important we get out of the 2 year cycle as it is, get the right set up.

Get a decent run with injuries, a decent support structure around him etc.. and use the review to have everyone air grievances and move forward in the right direction ... and we might be half a chance. He has a few things to address and if he presents that well to the board and they elect to stick with him, im all for it.


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I just feel like if we did get a flag in the next 2 years, he would run the club into the ground trying to get another one, and then ship off, like he did at the saints and freo ... im really struggling to want him at the club.


You’re concerned he might win us a flag in the next two years... :lol:

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