keogh wrote:
I want the best available
Who is the best available to coach Carlton
It’s fairly obvious that Teague will get the bullet next week
It’s clear the board want Clarko
Clarko may want the year off
So if that’s the case then Lyon gets it
The extent of the boards thinking that these two are the best available
The board have appointed two unproven young coaches
So now it’s back to the Malthouse approach
No due diligence in finding the best coach
If you can remember when Teague was appointed in 2019 the players views were the clincher in him getting the job after his interim phase
I had a problem with this because there is always a honeymoon period with something new
It’s the board that should be perceptive and smart enough to appoint the right person
In the two years Teague has been coach he clearly isn’t hard enough and not defensively minded enough and not flexible enough in moving players around
Tactically he has struggled
The board should have had an idea of this before employing him
Sometimes you get it wrong
But often does the Carlton board get it wrong
They are almost clueless
What about Kingsley
He could be the new Clarko from 17 years ago
But we won’t know because the board are dumb and lazy
This is what you will get with Simba
A defensive game style. Too much
He will be tough which this list needs but some players will dislike him and not want to play for him
He doesn’t galvanize teams. He lacks the human touch.
I reckon he got lucky to some extent at the Aints and initially at the Dockers.
His last 4 years at Fremantle was a @#$%&! disaster
Clarkson at least has a caring factor to him
But it’s the boards lack of thorough process which is once again on show
Pathetic
This is a pretty good/fair assessment.
I suspect that the player endorsement of Teague was the icing. But the wins and exciting, attacking game plan were the cake.
The test was always going to be 2020 once Teague had a pre-season to properly shape the game plan; and opposition teams had a bit more opportunity to work us out (based on 2019-Teague approach).
I would have thought that Teague would have had to outline his plan to build our plan around an attacking style but to reinforce with robust defensive plan too. I also think the Board prob did not really interrogate this thoroughly and obviously we were not able to deliver on it.
Looking forward, I think it's first worth recognising that it is HIGHLY unlikely that there is another Clarkson hiding out amongst the assistants, given that there really has never been a coach like him in the AFL era. And that includes Clarkson himself - in terms of expecting 4 premierships! Therefore, we might be comparing a coach we think can deliver 1 or maybe 2 flags. Which means that if we believe Clarkson or Lyon could deliver that, I think the down side of choosing them over a promising rookie is small. And given our recent history, I can understand that the Board would lean strongly towards these two.
I'd be happy with either, but they both come with question marks:
- Clarkson - I think he is the better strategist and planner; great team motivator, and really loves and nurtures his players including the young'ns. I'd be a bit worried about the fire in his belly (esp without a break). And he is Board confrontational, which itself has some good points and bad points.
- Lyon - Is undoubtedly driven to win a flag. He is a great strategist (too) and tactician. He sees the game very clearly but perhaps not as innovative as Clarkson... perhaps. He has a history of favouring experienced players over newbies and likes to work with a mature list, which does suit our current evolution but might leave us in a bit of a hole once this forward thrust comes to an end (in 5-6yrs maybe...).
Both of them will be tough, and will love their core players.
Both of them will bring / develop fantastic assistants.
Both will demand leaders across the football department and off-field with impeccable cultural and leadership abilities.
I'd probably lean towards Clarkson as a long term play but I believe Lyon is exactly what we need right now.
Great post. I also think Lyon is ready for the picking. He has coached at more than one club with reasonable success and has declared himself ready for Carlton. You can’t really ask for more than that can you?
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