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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:28 pm 
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Adam Chatfield wrote:
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Ask Buckley how long it took him to get the players he needed to play to his game plan and structure. during that time Collingwood were sinking lower and lower on the table until they gave up a tonne load of first round picks to get the player they need to play to his brand. Doesn't take 1-2 years mate.


Longmuir, Rutten have had less time and those clubs are humming along nicely compared to out beaten up Datsun 120y.
2 years 2 God dam years and don't forget he was our forwards coach before that , the same forward line under Bolton that YOU called statues.
Facts are David Teague may be a good assistant coach and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that but it's very very clear that he is NOT a good senior coach.
1 more game to go.


People are impatient I get it.

I take a holistic and non vindictive approach.

I don't want sacked coaches at the club.


So if Teague got sacked, he shouldn't get another job elsewhere?

I don't agree with this thinking that once you are sacked you are damaged goods forever. Pagan and Malthouse were never technically sacked until they came to us and it happened at Carlton.


Teague will be damaged goods for a long time.

If we want an elite coach the go after Hardwick - but something tells me Teague will be a better coach.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:29 pm 
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If only our midfield ran as hard as this bloke types.


Why even bother being passive aggressive - have issues between your ears or something.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:32 pm 
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Teague will never be a senior coach again ,

As Caro once said , people who come to Carlton have the careers destroyed and that ends Saturday , Teague and his footy dept will have a lot to do to resurrect themselves in assisting coaches world

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:34 pm 
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No way will Teague be seen as damaged goods . Particularly with the manly and dignified behaviour he has exhibited knowing his fate has been decided . A very resilient strong character . He will get a gig next year in some capacity . For sure .

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:40 pm 
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No way will Teague be seen as damaged goods . Particularly with the manly and dignified behaviour he has exhibited knowing his fate has been decided . A very resilient strong character . He will get a gig next year in some capacity . For sure .




Just watched his interview.

It could have been embarrassing, but instead he focused on the job, his players and his support team.

Dignity. Professionalism. Comradery. Respectful. Words that come to mind thinking of Teague.

I really wanted to believe he was Blueman's young coach of our 17th flag.

Would like to see him stay in some capacity. He has some traction amongst the group.

Was a good forwards coach before he came to Carlton. He will get a gig.

No shame for a 2nd year coach to be replaced by a legend like Clarkson, or Lyon.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:50 pm 
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We seem to treat out club champions and Teague has his name etched on the club champion plaque for ever like dirt tbh.

Don't like that.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:59 pm 
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We seem to treat out club champions and Teague has his name etched on the club champion plaque for ever like dirt tbh.

Don't like that.

He won a b and f award so did Corey mckernan , let’s be careful to who we are going to call champions of our great club

Respect the history cause clearly your bias is making you delirious with emotions for Teague !!

Teague is no champion of our club

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:04 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
We seem to treat out club champions and Teague has his name etched on the club champion plaque for ever like dirt tbh.

Don't like that.


Teague seen as dirt ? no way . Rightly or wrongly this hasn't worked out . But it does not diminish my thoughts on the guy one bit . His fearlessness and bravery is unquestionable . And i reckon every fair minded Carlton supporter agree . Don't worry Walshy , he will get a gig in some capacity somewhere . Reckon he will be snapped up .

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azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
We seem to treat out club champions and Teague has his name etched on the club champion plaque for ever like dirt tbh.

Don't like that.

He won a b and f award so did Corey mckernan , let’s be careful to who we are going to call champions of our great club

Respect the history cause clearly your bias is making you delirious with emotions for Teague !!

Teague is no champion of our club



His name is there is yours?

Yes he is a club champion - player and now coach.

What will you do if Teague sees out next year?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:14 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
We seem to treat out club champions and Teague has his name etched on the club champion plaque for ever like dirt tbh.

Don't like that.

He won a b and f award so did Corey mckernan , let’s be careful to who we are going to call champions of our great club

Respect the history cause clearly your bias is making you delirious with emotions for Teague !!

Teague is no champion of our club



His name is there is yours?

Yes he is a club champion - player and now coach.

What will you do if Teague sees out next year?


Don’t get petty mate , and understand what I said

Clearly you are connected with tegaue with your constant illogical behaviour

So just enjoy his last game , here is tip to watch for, a minimum of a 5
Goal for gws straight to add to Teagues legacy !!

So that will be something you can remember him by ,,, so we can argue about this next year when Carlton lose a game under a new coach in 2022,

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:19 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
Teague will be damaged goods for a long time.

If we want an elite coach the go after Hardwick - but something tells me Teague will be a better coach.


So Teague will be a 4 time Premiership Coach.

Now I've been on this site for a long time, but I can categorically say that what YOU wrote above is the most delusional sentence I have ever read in my entire time on here.
Walsh, Seriously after this I can't converse with you anymore..
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:33 pm 
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azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
We seem to treat out club champions and Teague has his name etched on the club champion plaque for ever like dirt tbh.

Don't like that.

He won a b and f award so did Corey mckernan , let’s be careful to who we are going to call champions of our great club

Respect the history cause clearly your bias is making you delirious with emotions for Teague !!

Teague is no champion of our club



His name is there is yours?

Yes he is a club champion - player and now coach.

What will you do if Teague sees out next year?



Don’t get petty mate , and understand what I said

Clearly you are connected with tegaue with your constant illogical behaviour

So just enjoy his last game , here is tip to watch for, a minimum of a 5
Goal for gws straight to add to Teagues legacy !!

So that will be something you can remember him by ,,, so we can argue about this next year when Carlton lose a game under a new coach in 2022,


You didnt answer the question what will you do if the board decides Teague will see out his contract. As far as I can tell people like you are just riding on the coattails of mass media


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:41 pm 
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No we are riding on the coattails of underperformance for 2021

We are also staggered that the same deficiencies of 2020 were not rectified in 2021 preseason

Not turning up not having a sustainable game plan
Haemorrhaging goals almost every week are the hallmarks of this team in 2020 and 2021

We feel sorry for the guy but it’s a performance business
Club should have surrounded him with better coaching talent but he hasn’t performed well enough so regrettably the time is nigh
Disappointingly if he had of been able to have the players perform and beat Morth and GC he may have retained his job
The 19 goal run last week also didn’t help

Sad end to another unfulfilling season of heartbreak for supporters enough is enough


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:46 pm 
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See I think the review will have its interviews and whatnot and will find out

a. the list isn't good enough
b. development and environment is at a professional standard
c. game plan is maybe too aggressive but that should be fine
d. relationships with players is excellent
e. list management has let the coaching group down and expectations are unrealistic

I predicted between 12-6 as I don't rate the list and think the attacking game plan kept us in games as applied score board pressure.

Don't have the midfield to compete which is bluntly obvious.

I predict 10-6 next year on the proviso we recruit better - much better - midfield talent.

If not then its 12-6

The way I see it.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 6:48 pm 
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deano35 wrote:
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Ask Buckley how long it took him to get the players he needed to play to his game plan and structure. during that time Collingwood were sinking lower and lower on the table until they gave up a tonne load of first round picks to get the player they need to play to his brand. Doesn't take 1-2 years mate.


Longmuir, Rutten have had less time and those clubs are humming along nicely compared to out beaten up Datsun 120y.
2 years 2 God dam years and don't forget he was our forwards coach before that , the same forward line under Bolton that YOU called statues.
Facts are David Teague may be a good assistant coach and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that but it's very very clear that he is NOT a good senior coach.
1 more game to go.


That's because those side have a decent culture and work harder. They have motivation to succeed unlike our players. Issue here isn't coaching as nothing changes no matter how many times we changed coaches. Not sure how people, after all this time, simply don't know that. If our players had the slightest bit of motivation to succeed, rather than turning up for the pay cheque, we would probably have played finals the last two years. Some simply don't know what they are talking about. Given we were scoreboard competitive in near every game we have played under Teague, until very recently it, and we were still in contention for finals last in both seasons, would not have taken much in the way of true effort to change it. Not to mention the injury list. Maybe some decent support with decent senior assistants might have changed things. Maybe not have a sword hanging over the players and coaches heads with a unnecessary mid season review, causing disunity and distrust would have helped too. These things are for post season.

Simon Goodwin was on the verge of getting sacked last year. Putting decent people around him like Choco helped and now look. Same with the reviews into Geelong, 2006, Richmond, 2016 and Collingwood 2017. They went from a struggling seasons into creating dynasties in two cases, and a GF and PF for the Pies straight after. They kept their coaches and gave them alot more support changing everything. Carlton don't provide that support.

We actually beat those 2 sides every time we played them this year.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:05 pm 
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deano35 wrote:

Now I've been on this site for a long time, but I can categorically say that what YOU wrote above is the most delusional sentence I have ever read in my entire time on here.


And in some pretty esteemed company, too :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:06 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
No we are riding on the coattails of underperformance for 2021

We are also staggered that the same deficiencies of 2020 were not rectified in 2021 preseason

Not turning up not having a sustainable game plan
Haemorrhaging goals almost every week are the hallmarks of this team in 2020 and 2021

We feel sorry for the guy but it’s a performance business
Club should have surrounded him with better coaching talent but he hasn’t performed well enough so regrettably the time is nigh
Disappointingly if he had of been able to have the players perform and beat Morth and GC he may have retained his job
The 19 goal run last week also didn’t help

Sad end to another unfulfilling season of heartbreak for supporters enough is enough
Spot on Frank...

Add that the lack of game plan meant we ran around like headless chook and were invariably spent for large parts of the game.
Smart teams (like WCE) have ran us around (even not so smart teams like NM) and taken advantage of this.... Surprise surprise, when combined with no positional changes you cop a quick run of goals....





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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:06 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
We seem to treat out club champions and Teague has his name etched on the club champion plaque for ever like dirt tbh.

Don't like that.

He won a b and f award so did Corey mckernan , let’s be careful to who we are going to call champions of our great club

Respect the history cause clearly your bias is making you delirious with emotions for Teague !!

Teague is no champion of our club



His name is there is yours?

Yes he is a club champion - player and now coach.

What will you do if Teague sees out next year?



Don’t get petty mate , and understand what I said
Mate i said it 2 months ago , I don’t need media hysteria to tell

I get my sources from people I can trust so I don’t embarrass myself like you have , with your ridiculous Statements that have no basis

And I have said to you before which you won’t commit to ,

I’m more than happy to bet you , whatever you want this is Teague last game ,

But you always dodge the bet and cause like Teagues coaching , you have no idea


Clearly you are connected with tegaue with your constant illogical behaviour

So just enjoy his last game , here is tip to watch for, a minimum of a 5
Goal for gws straight to add to Teagues legacy !!

So that will be something you can remember him by ,,, so we can argue about this next year when Carlton lose a game under a new coach in 2022,


You didnt answer the question what will you do if the board decides Teague will see out his contract. As far as I can tell people like you are just riding on the coattails of mass media

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:12 pm 
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Don't like that.[/quote]
He won a b and f award so did Corey mckernan , let’s be careful to who we are going to call champions of our great club

Respect the history cause clearly your bias is making you delirious with emotions for Teague !!

Teague is no champion of our club[/quote]


His name is there is yours?

Yes he is a club champion - player and now coach.

What will you do if Teague sees out next year?[/quote]


Don’t get petty mate , and understand what I said
Mate i said it 2 months ago , I don’t need media hysteria to tell

I get my sources from people I can trust so I don’t embarrass myself like you have , with your ridiculous Statements that have no basis

And I have said to you before which you won’t commit to ,

I’m more than happy to bet you , whatever you want this is Teague last game ,

But you always dodge the bet and cause like Teagues coaching , you have no idea


Clearly you are connected with tegaue with your constant illogical behaviour

So just enjoy his last game , here is tip to watch for, a minimum of a 5
Goal for gws straight to add to Teagues legacy !!

So that will be something you can remember him by ,,, so we can argue about this next year when Carlton lose a game under a new coach in 2022,[/quote]

You didnt answer the question what will you do if the board decides Teague will see out his contract. As far as I can tell people like you are just riding on the coattails of mass media[/quote][/quote]


You tell me , what would like from me ?? And I want to know what you are going to do when they let him go ??

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azzablue wrote:
Don't like that.

He won a b and f award so did Corey mckernan , let’s be careful to who we are going to call champions of our great club

Respect the history cause clearly your bias is making you delirious with emotions for Teague !!

Teague is no champion of our club[/quote]


His name is there is yours?

Yes he is a club champion - player and now coach.

What will you do if Teague sees out next year?[/quote]


Don’t get petty mate , and understand what I said
Mate i said it 2 months ago , I don’t need media hysteria to tell

I get my sources from people I can trust so I don’t embarrass myself like you have , with your ridiculous Statements that have no basis

And I have said to you before which you won’t commit to ,

I’m more than happy to bet you , whatever you want this is Teague last game ,

But you always dodge the bet and cause like Teagues coaching , you have no idea


Clearly you are connected with tegaue with your constant illogical behaviour

So just enjoy his last game , here is tip to watch for, a minimum of a 5
Goal for gws straight to add to Teagues legacy !!

So that will be something you can remember him by ,,, so we can argue about this next year when Carlton lose a game under a new coach in 2022,[/quote]

You didnt answer the question what will you do if the board decides Teague will see out his contract. As far as I can tell people like you are just riding on the coattails of mass media[/quote][/quote]


You tell me , what would like from me ?? And I want to know what you are going to do when they let him go ??[/quote]

Doesn't work that way - you and handful of others are full of huff and gusto - loud as hell. So what will you do if the board decides he stays on in 2022?


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