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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:15 pm 
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You forgot the 2 nd round against Collingwood which was the start of the rot in not turning up


I have had paper bags stronger than that effort.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:20 pm 
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azzablue wrote:
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Whoever is coach better be a point of difference and not go on the road of vanilla football.

I can see us turn into Dockers fans in his 2nd year camping 18 players behind the ball and still lose games.

At least you are finally acknowledging Teague is done come Saturday

That’s a start for your grieving process


haha.. well he's not sacked yet. it's not so much the sacking rather the club itself.

Ratts sacking is the worst sacking this one will be right up there... he hasn't even been given a go. At least ratts had Waite, Judd, Kreuzer, Murphy, Gibbs, Fevola, Yarran, Carrots Scotland etc etc all up and running.

Teague hasn't had a full team on the park yet


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:25 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Whoever is coach better be a point of difference and not go on the road of vanilla football.

I can see us turn into Dockers fans in his 2nd year camping 18 players behind the ball and still lose games.

At least you are finally acknowledging Teague is done come Saturday

That’s a start for your grieving process


haha.. well he's not sacked yet. it's not so much the sacking rather the club itself.

Ratts sacking is the worst sacking this one will be right up there... he hasn't even been given a go. At least ratts had Waite, Judd, Kreuzer, Murphy, Gibbs, Fevola, Yarran, Carrots Scotland etc etc all up and running.

Teague hasn't had a full team on the park yet


All teams, virtually all the time, have injuries.
You're really clutching at straws now.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:27 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Whoever is coach better be a point of difference and not go on the road of vanilla football.

I can see us turn into Dockers fans in his 2nd year camping 18 players behind the ball and still lose games.

At least you are finally acknowledging Teague is done come Saturday

That’s a start for your grieving process


haha.. well he's not sacked yet. it's not so much the sacking rather the club itself.

Ratts sacking is the worst sacking this one will be right up there... he hasn't even been given a go. At least ratts had Waite, Judd, Kreuzer, Murphy, Gibbs, Fevola, Yarran, Carrots Scotland etc etc all up and running.

Teague hasn't had a full team on the park yet


He has been given 2 years and his win loss ratio has consistently nose dived.
Ultimately wins is the key criteria.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:31 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
Walsh wrote:
azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Whoever is coach better be a point of difference and not go on the road of vanilla football.

I can see us turn into Dockers fans in his 2nd year camping 18 players behind the ball and still lose games.

At least you are finally acknowledging Teague is done come Saturday

That’s a start for your grieving process


haha.. well he's not sacked yet. it's not so much the sacking rather the club itself.

Ratts sacking is the worst sacking this one will be right up there... he hasn't even been given a go. At least ratts had Waite, Judd, Kreuzer, Murphy, Gibbs, Fevola, Yarran, Carrots Scotland etc etc all up and running.

Teague hasn't had a full team on the park yet


All teams, virtually all the time, have injuries.
You're really clutching at straws now.

Am I? Have a look at the injury list of clubs in top four actually top 6.. then you might be the one clutching at straws


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:39 pm 
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I think injuries have something to do with it but We had almost the best side for the year against GC and didn’t turn up so not sure injuries are the only reason
A relatively strong side against Collingwood in 2nd round but side didn’t turn up again so not just injuries


Against North injuries probably cost us but having a holiday in the last quarter and a half against the dogs when we were 4 goals up aren’t injuries


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:39 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Whoever is coach better be a point of difference and not go on the road of vanilla football.

I can see us turn into Dockers fans in his 2nd year camping 18 players behind the ball and still lose games.

At least you are finally acknowledging Teague is done come Saturday

That’s a start for your grieving process


haha.. well he's not sacked yet. it's not so much the sacking rather the club itself.

Ratts sacking is the worst sacking this one will be right up there... he hasn't even been given a go. At least ratts had Waite, Judd, Kreuzer, Murphy, Gibbs, Fevola, Yarran, Carrots Scotland etc etc all up and running.

Teague hasn't had a full team on the park yet


You are so funny , the excuses you make for him

You know it’s just not about the players availability it’s about game plan and structure and selection integrity , which he showed he wasn’t capable of doing ,,, and that’s his biggest flaw

And more importantly how he should never been appointment

I will be enjoying the game for 2 things ,hopefully some highlights form Eddie Betts and last game for Teague in the coaches box

Stop fighting the inevitable for your fav coach … way too many flaws to be a head coach

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:41 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
You forgot the 2 nd round against Collingwood which was the start of the rot in not turning up


I remember posting during that game asking "What have they been doing all Summer?"

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:43 pm 
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Ask Buckley how long it took him to get the players he needed to play to his game plan and structure. during that time Collingwood were sinking lower and lower on the table until they gave up a tonne load of first round picks to get the player they need to play to his brand. Doesn't take 1-2 years mate.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:52 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
GWS wrote:
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Come on mate. We go over 2nd week where we conceded a run of goals of more than 5 ...

I hate the way the club has handled teague. He has every right to be filthy with the club to be honest


All teams go through momentum swings and react accordingly. It's a Teague thing.


EFA


Thats experience in midfield and lack of talent on the park and lack of cohesion.


So the lack of talent is stopping him from making positional changes?

Seriously?

You’re flailing around like a nun in a dildo shop.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 4:57 pm 
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Have you heard the one about the old lady in the dildo shop?
She asks the person working behind the desk "DDdddddo yyyyouuuuu stooooooock theeeeeee eleeeeectriiiic diiiilddooooooo wiiiiiiith theeeeee riiibbbed edgeeeeees?"
And the store person says "yes why do you ask?"
And the old lady says "hhhhhoooooooow theeeee fuuuuuuuuuck doooo youooooooo tuuuuuuurn it oooooffff?"


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:00 pm 
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GWS wrote:
Walsh wrote:
GWS wrote:
Walsh wrote:
ScottSaunders2 wrote:
Come on mate. We go over 2nd week where we conceded a run of goals of more than 5 ...

I hate the way the club has handled teague. He has every right to be filthy with the club to be honest


All teams go through momentum swings and react accordingly. It's a Teague thing.


EFA


Thats experience in midfield and lack of talent on the park and lack of cohesion.


So the lack of talent is stopping him from making positional changes?

Seriously?

You’re flailing around like a nun in a dildo shop.


Silly quotations unnecessary. He has a team to drill according to brand of football. You can't expect a VFL based talent team to compete with top four sides in form and no injuries.

Thats why you have a second tier competition....to continue to drill them based on ball movement game plan is the ONLY way.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:00 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
Paddycripps wrote:
Walsh wrote:
azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Whoever is coach better be a point of difference and not go on the road of vanilla football.

I can see us turn into Dockers fans in his 2nd year camping 18 players behind the ball and still lose games.

At least you are finally acknowledging Teague is done come Saturday

That’s a start for your grieving process


haha.. well he's not sacked yet. it's not so much the sacking rather the club itself.

Ratts sacking is the worst sacking this one will be right up there... he hasn't even been given a go. At least ratts had Waite, Judd, Kreuzer, Murphy, Gibbs, Fevola, Yarran, Carrots Scotland etc etc all up and running.

Teague hasn't had a full team on the park yet


All teams, virtually all the time, have injuries.
You're really clutching at straws now.

Am I? Have a look at the injury list of clubs in top four actually top 6.. then you might be the one clutching at straws


The list we have now is the deepest list we have had in over 20 years.
All year I have seen injuries and then seen the team we have fielded and been pleasantly surprised by the depth on the list.
At no point has the team we have fielded looked poor.
He has no excuses.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:03 pm 
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Paddycripps wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Walsh wrote:
azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Whoever is coach better be a point of difference and not go on the road of vanilla football.

I can see us turn into Dockers fans in his 2nd year camping 18 players behind the ball and still lose games.

At least you are finally acknowledging Teague is done come Saturday

That’s a start for your grieving process


haha.. well he's not sacked yet. it's not so much the sacking rather the club itself.

Ratts sacking is the worst sacking this one will be right up there... he hasn't even been given a go. At least ratts had Waite, Judd, Kreuzer, Murphy, Gibbs, Fevola, Yarran, Carrots Scotland etc etc all up and running.

Teague hasn't had a full team on the park yet


All teams, virtually all the time, have injuries.
You're really clutching at straws now.

Am I? Have a look at the injury list of clubs in top four actually top 6.. then you might be the one clutching at straws


The list we have now is the deepest list we have had in over 20 years.
All year I have seen injuries and then seen the team we have fielded and been pleasantly surprised by the depth on the list.
At no point has the team we have fielded looked poor.
He has no excuses.[/quote]

Yeah it has all year the talent in the midfield is sub par. They can't collectively get the job done against good sides as they're crabs. Back line and forward line is settled.

Maybe its you that overrate the list.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:12 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
Ask Buckley how long it took him to get the players he needed to play to his game plan and structure. during that time Collingwood were sinking lower and lower on the table until they gave up a tonne load of first round picks to get the player they need to play to his brand. Doesn't take 1-2 years mate.


Longmuir, Rutten have had less time and those clubs are humming along nicely compared to out beaten up Datsun 120y.
2 years 2 God dam years and don't forget he was our forwards coach before that , the same forward line under Bolton that YOU called statues.
Facts are David Teague may be a good assistant coach and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that but it's very very clear that he is NOT a good senior coach.
1 more game to go.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:15 pm 
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deano35 wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Ask Buckley how long it took him to get the players he needed to play to his game plan and structure. during that time Collingwood were sinking lower and lower on the table until they gave up a tonne load of first round picks to get the player they need to play to his brand. Doesn't take 1-2 years mate.


Longmuir, Rutten have had less time and those clubs are humming along nicely compared to out beaten up Datsun 120y.
2 years 2 God dam years and don't forget he was our forwards coach before that , the same forward line under Bolton that YOU called statues.
Facts are David Teague may be a good assistant coach and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that but it's very very clear that he is NOT a good senior coach.
1 more game to go.


People are impatient I get it.

I take a holistic and non vindictive approach.

I don't want sacked coaches at the club.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:21 pm 
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The list isn't up to 2011 standard even. That side had a good midfield, good ruck and some good all be it injury prone KPP's in Jamison and Waite.

What we had in that era:

Judd
Murph when he was elite
Gibbs
Carrots
Scotland
Hendo
Waite
Jamison
Laidler (good pre injury)
Kreuzer
Walker
Betts
Yarran
Garlett
Robinson
Simpson

I am not sure how anyone can claim the current crop are as good. Only area we are better in than then is KPPs, and running half backs (maybe). Midfield, ruck and small forwards all way worse.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:23 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
deano35 wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Ask Buckley how long it took him to get the players he needed to play to his game plan and structure. during that time Collingwood were sinking lower and lower on the table until they gave up a tonne load of first round picks to get the player they need to play to his brand. Doesn't take 1-2 years mate.


Longmuir, Rutten have had less time and those clubs are humming along nicely compared to out beaten up Datsun 120y.
2 years 2 God dam years and don't forget he was our forwards coach before that , the same forward line under Bolton that YOU called statues.
Facts are David Teague may be a good assistant coach and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that but it's very very clear that he is NOT a good senior coach.
1 more game to go.


People are impatient I get it.

I take a holistic and non vindictive approach.

I don't want sacked coaches at the club.


So if Teague got sacked, he shouldn't get another job elsewhere?

I don't agree with this thinking that once you are sacked you are damaged goods forever. Pagan and Malthouse were never technically sacked until they came to us and it happened at Carlton.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2021 5:27 pm 
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If only our midfield ran as hard as this bloke types.

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