It’s not the supporter base, the membership figures inflated by the freebie memberships too.

Richmond were killing it membership wise before any of their 3 flags too.

I wouldn’t turn a good thing into a negative.

The Review will uncover many failings

One of them will be that Teague is a shizehausen senior AFL coach

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

Robert walls didn’t rate him a year ago , the crows game last year said it all about Teague as coach and what he stands for !!

How he was allowed to continue is beyond me, Teague has had several games like that this year and wasn’t dismissed

I look at port and think how are they 4th and we are 13th , there is no way there list is better than ours

We have lost 2 years under this guys coaching

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#sayerscouldbetheman!!

Yep...agree wholeheartedly...but we still continue the 'politically correct' narrative around not having good assistants, is young, is a great bloke, can grow blah blah blah
A head coach is a head coach for a reason...the buck stops with him
I don't give give a flying stuff about the Geelong, Richmond or Melbourne review
Teague is not up to the requirements of the role and it would be organisational negligence to "hope" he comes good because he is supported better

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

And I’m over he is such a good bloke , like any high performing job , you are judged on performance hence why you get paid extremely well , and you know the challenges when taking any high performance role

Hence you don’t perform you are out ,
Plain and simple ,

This club needs to get
Back to being ruthless and I’m over the love fest at this club !!

No one is bigger than this club, and I hope there are significant changes after this review

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#sayerscouldbetheman!!

I think you significantly overrate our list if you think its better than Port's

Yet he has done alot better than everyone else this century bar Ratten. Maybe you need to look at the right places as to why we have struggled. 6 coaching changes have changed nothing. Can't coach bad culture. Think you might need to look a bit deeper.

I have had a few ph calls from mates telling me that Ross Lyon was abit coy on Footy Confidential last night when asked. Anyone see it?

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

It’s a good point you raise Jim and to an extent I agree with it.
Culture should be primarily, or at least in the first instance, player driven in my view. However, given the evidence strongly suggests that our players have no idea how to promote a strong, win at all costs, culture, what is the solution here? How do we change this? We’ve brought in 18 year olds and players from other clubs but nothing much changes. Most 18 year olds are just impressionable kids that want to be liked in their new environment so they just mould to the standards set by our “leaders” and so nothing changes.
Where I differ a bit from your view is I think coaches do have a role to play when the players won’t drive the culture. They need to step in and demand high standards. If those standards aren’t met, they need to be strong enough to weed out those who are detrimental to a good culture, even if said players have talent. I presume Teague has tried to instil strong standards but there’s no evidence it’s actually amounted to anything. This is where I think we need to try someone new and hope they can turn things around. If we just continue on this same path, all we will do is cultivate another generation of collectively conditional footballers who underachieve.
Something (and realistically a number of things) within the 4 walls of our club need to change. If it’s not Teague, then what or who is it that can change our culture? It’s the million dollar question and we’ve just got to hope the board (who are part of the problem) actually make the right call

So he should. He has a significantly better list.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

So if this is the only problem and clearly the most important to Teague's success, then why have we brought in McGovern FWD (2018), Betts FWD, Williams DEF, Fogarty FWD, Pittonet RUC and Saad DEF instead of midfielders while Teague has been at the club?
And the midfielders we drafted while he has been coach are yet to play in the midfield, except Philp (injured) for one whole game.
That's 5 midfielders (including Kemp) over two season and 1 game between them and two of them are top 20 picks.
Surely you know that the coach has a say in who we trade and draft into the club, right?

And for fun I'll add 3 of our high draft pick midfielders that have been playing that are not even in the midfield, SPS DEF, Dow (until recently) FWD & Stocker DEF.
Wether you rate them or not, they are not in their drafted positions, the position we need them to have been playing for the last 2 years and they are all his decisions.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1425429809673408517



Based on Teague"s presser this morning he knows he is gone

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If you allow the Government to change the Laws in an emergency
They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

A little smirk from Ross when he was asked if was called

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"I had to eat"

Ask list management.

Thanks NBH

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Yep Ross Lyon was really Coy and looked guilty when asked if he was spoken to. Usually he would seem adament and last year said he would NOT coach, but was very dipomatic this time and didnt deny anything.

He looked almost smirky and sheepish really.

Exactly!!! So sick of everyone trotting out the comparisons to our previous coaches the past 20 years. None of them were the beneficiary of a full rebuild 5-6 years down the track with a whole host of talented young players in the right age bracket, an AA level key forward, key defender, and midfielder, and 3 relatively high profile recruits in the past 2 years. Completely pointless comparison. Ratten is the only one that had a comparable list and he at least made finals 3 years in a row


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List management is guided by what the head coach needs to fulfil his game plan.

What else do you have?

Then he got Kemp, Philp, Williams, Saad, Carroll and Durdin.

Other than Philp the rest are strong around the hips and non flakey.