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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:41 pm 
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I know some inside the club think he's in over his head....and its not coming from the Board, or Off field.



bondi I rest my case about Agenda's. Your mates feeding you whatever info you get will have them. Good clubs/businesses/governments don't leak or gossip or put out propaganda.

Very little the club can do about the media whiteanting the Club but when it comes from 'inside sources' (my words) then it means the club is destined for mediocrity.

I hope Sayers says 'Get on Board' 100% or get the @#$% out of the way and cut the crap when you go.

Sadly football ego's at Carlton won't allow that.

Regards Cazzesman


I know what you are saying Cazz.

Its not a leak. It's not white anting.

Its a general conversation between friends.

He didn't say Teague was out or a loser, a bad man manager, or his game plan sucks, just the task of Head Coach at Carlton is huge and too big for Teague to do on his own.

Soft Cap has hurt the club. Had Longmuire coming to help but he got snapped up in the 11th hour.

This bloke doesn't have an Agenda.

I'm coming to my own conclusions with that in mind when watching the team play, if that's what you call it.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:23 pm 
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99prelim wrote:
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I challenge anyone to watch what’s happening at Marvel right now and tell me with a straight face that our team isn’t [REDACTED] in the head and soft as butter.


I promised myself afetr yesterday's game I would watch no footy for the rest of the weekend. Its been really enjoyable TBH.

@#$%&! I just had a look at Marvel game.....they were the laughing stock last year.

Rutten has got them playing a game plan they believe in.

Austin gave the Pick 8...they didn't need that. They've got a decent coach and the players believe in him.

Our players are conditional, but like I keep asking WTF is Teague's plan?

If the plan is a shoot out, well great deal of good that's done us...then yesterday we score 3 goals to 8 in the 2nd half...its the NM game all over again.

Teague is in over his head



Sooooooo...are we not in the 8 tonight bc of 20 years of culture/mediocrity/every other sin under the sun...OR are we not in the 8 because DT is a completely inept coach who is "in over his head"???


The culture has been shocking in this club for 20 years. 6 coaches haven't changed that. The motivation, drive, hunger, effort etc, nothing has changed with different coaching appointments. How do you not see that? What does that tell you? You can't coach a side with a bad culture. Whatever you try to do the players don't put in the effort to execute it properly. Given we were still in contention and very competitive all year on the scoreboard, if we put in a true effort in all year of course we would play finals. Like i said, how do you not see that. What do you think another coaching change is going to do that the previous 5 or 6 haven't? Have to get to the root of the problem and it isn't coaching. Teague's record is the 2nd best this century by a margin. He took over a side that had won 4 from the previous 43, with some of the most embarrassing losses this club has ever had, including one where a side outscored us 7 goals to 1 in a qtr with 16 men for alot if it.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:46 pm 
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David, you have one job to do before the season's end...

rest Harry and Walsh for the rest of the season, play the kids in the last round, put Murphy in the ruck for all I care...

just dont give the bombers a sniff in the last round...

That's the only hope I got for the this gawd awful, ground hog day of a season..


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:57 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
Fat chance - not even a trio of super coaches will turn around a pea hearted midfield.


You're an imbecile and you're too EQ-less to even understand the contempt most posters have for you

You told us DT would deliver multiple flags and that our coaches were elite...now that DT is on his way out, the midfield is who you're scatter-gunning with your bombast

Stop talking shit...and referring to players as 'pea hearts'

Hopefully you'll leave this forum after DT is sacked...just like you arrived after he was appointed

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:01 pm 
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frank dardew wrote:
I’m voting both as well


Yes it is both...but, as bondi said, the past is the past...DT had an opportunity to build a new future...wasn't expecting miracles but many of us would say that we should be sitting in the 8 right now on 10 wins MINIMUM

The mood around here would be stratospherically different...DT has a lot to answer for with what has gone on every week on the field...otherwise, why have a head coach????

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:02 pm 
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99prelim wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Fat chance - not even a trio of super coaches will turn around a pea hearted midfield.


You're an imbecile and you're too EQ-less to even understand the contempt most posters have for you

You told us DT would deliver multiple flags and that our coaches were elite...now that DT is on his way out, the midfield is who you're scatter-gunning with your bombast

Stop talking shit...and referring to players as 'pea hearts'

Hopefully you'll leave this forum after DT is sacked...just like you arrived after he was appointed


DT is not going to get sacked - he is highly regarded by the club and board. You will just always be a whimpy vindictive cry baby. Keep crying manbaby.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:08 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
99prelim wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Fat chance - not even a trio of super coaches will turn around a pea hearted midfield.


You're an imbecile and you're too EQ-less to even understand the contempt most posters have for you

You told us DT would deliver multiple flags and that our coaches were elite...now that DT is on his way out, the midfield is who you're scatter-gunning with your bombast

Stop talking shit...and referring to players as 'pea hearts'

Hopefully you'll leave this forum after DT is sacked...just like you arrived after he was appointed


[size=200]DT is not going to get sacked - he is highly regarded by the club and board. You will just always be a whimpy vindictive cry baby. Keep crying manbaby[/size].


Thanks Walshy-Malshy...if I can be so familiar...just thought I'd place my validation of you up in lights for all to see

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:10 pm 
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99prelim wrote:
Walsh wrote:
99prelim wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Fat chance - not even a trio of super coaches will turn around a pea hearted midfield.


You're an imbecile and you're too EQ-less to even understand the contempt most posters have for you

You told us DT would deliver multiple flags and that our coaches were elite...now that DT is on his way out, the midfield is who you're scatter-gunning with your bombast

Stop talking shit...and referring to players as 'pea hearts'

Hopefully you'll leave this forum after DT is sacked...just like you arrived after he was appointed


[size=200]DT is not going to get sacked - he is highly regarded by the club and board. You will just always be a whimpy vindictive cry baby. Keep crying manbaby[/size].


Thanks Walshy-Malshy...if I can be so familiar...just thought I'd place my validation of you up in lights for all to see


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:38 pm 
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Ockhams razor on BF (not sure it the same as ours) posted;
Buckley and Clarkson are still in the mix. More than 1 role will need to be filled.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:00 pm 
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kezza wrote:
Ockhams razor on BF (not sure it the same as ours) posted;
Buckley and Clarkson are still in the mix. More than 1 role will need to be filled.


Well thank god for that!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:47 pm 
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Either would do I have been keen on Buckley for a long time


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:51 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
DT is not going to get sacked - he is highly regarded by the club and board.


No doubt he's highly regarded. He seems a fantastic human of exceptional morality. An absolutely ripping bloke.
Nothing would make me happier than to see him succeed. Unfortunately, he just cant coach for shit.
To concede 130+ marks with no discernible change of strategy from the first quarter to the last minute tells me he's well and truly out of his depth. We persisted with the loose behind the ball whilst the opposition tore us a new one utilising their spare up the ground. Meanwhile we were flogged in the ruck and the only player who gave us any form of ascendancy in there (JSOS) sat in the forward pocket. Not for the first time, our coaches totally failed to read the momentum of the game. Instead waiting for us to succeed playing "our way". Unfortunately "our way" doesnt win games. We need to take away the oppositions strengths as well. Trouble is our coaches don't have the know how to do it. We needed to go man on man. Not 5 metres off. Not 10 metres off. Push up and take away the uncontested marks. Did you see any evidence of it?

Lovely bloke though. Highly regarded.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:01 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Walsh wrote:
DT is not going to get sacked - he is highly regarded by the club and board.


No doubt he's highly regarded. He seems a fantastic human of exceptional morality. An absolutely ripping bloke.
Nothing would make me happier than to see him succeed. Unfortunately, he just cant coach for shit.
To concede 130+ marks with no discernible change of strategy from the first quarter to the last minute tells me he's well and truly out of his depth. We persisted with the loose behind the ball whilst the opposition tore us a new one utilising their spare up the ground. Meanwhile we were flogged in the ruck and the only player who gave us any form of ascendancy in there (JSOS) sat in the forward pocket. Not for the first time, our coaches totally failed to read the momentum of the game. Instead waiting for us to succeed playing "our way". Unfortunately "our way" doesnt win games. We need to take away the oppositions strengths as well. Trouble is our coaches don't have the know how to do it. We needed to go man on man. Not 5 metres off. Not 10 metres off. Push up and take away the uncontested marks. Did you see any evidence of it?

Lovely bloke though. Highly regarded.


He can coach 100% and players are on his side 100%. This is not up for debate.

What's up for debate is strategy. He should have stuck with free flowing ball movement than succumb to powers to be on becoming more defensive. His MO is to move the ball and players play with freedom and attack. This has been taken away from them since the bye and I am not one bit happy about it as it's a necessity to work hard and train - thats the only way to rip defences apart.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:05 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Walsh wrote:
DT is not going to get sacked - he is highly regarded by the club and board.


No doubt he's highly regarded. He seems a fantastic human of exceptional morality. An absolutely ripping bloke.
Nothing would make me happier than to see him succeed. Unfortunately, he just cant coach for shit.
To concede 130+ marks with no discernible change of strategy from the first quarter to the last minute tells me he's well and truly out of his depth. We persisted with the loose behind the ball whilst the opposition tore us a new one utilising their spare up the ground. Meanwhile we were flogged in the ruck and the only player who gave us any form of ascendancy in there (JSOS) sat in the forward pocket. Not for the first time, our coaches totally failed to read the momentum of the game. Instead waiting for us to succeed playing "our way". Unfortunately "our way" doesnt win games. We need to take away the oppositions strengths as well. Trouble is our coaches don't have the know how to do it. We needed to go man on man. Not 5 metres off. Not 10 metres off. Push up and take away the uncontested marks. Did you see any evidence of it?

Lovely bloke though. Highly regarded.


He can coach 100% and players are on his side 100%. This is not up for debate.


Yeah, it is.
We need a bit more than your word for it. Some actual evidence on field would be ideal.
We were tactically inept yesterday

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:09 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Walsh wrote:
DT is not going to get sacked - he is highly regarded by the club and board.


No doubt he's highly regarded. He seems a fantastic human of exceptional morality. An absolutely ripping bloke.
Nothing would make me happier than to see him succeed. Unfortunately, he just cant coach for shit.
To concede 130+ marks with no discernible change of strategy from the first quarter to the last minute tells me he's well and truly out of his depth. We persisted with the loose behind the ball whilst the opposition tore us a new one utilising their spare up the ground. Meanwhile we were flogged in the ruck and the only player who gave us any form of ascendancy in there (JSOS) sat in the forward pocket. Not for the first time, our coaches totally failed to read the momentum of the game. Instead waiting for us to succeed playing "our way". Unfortunately "our way" doesnt win games. We need to take away the oppositions strengths as well. Trouble is our coaches don't have the know how to do it. We needed to go man on man. Not 5 metres off. Not 10 metres off. Push up and take away the uncontested marks. Did you see any evidence of it?

Lovely bloke though. Highly regarded.


He can coach 100% and players are on his side 100%. This is not up for debate.

What's up for debate is strategy. He should have stuck with free flowing ball movement than succumb to powers to be on becoming more defensive. His MO is to move the ball and players play with freedom and attack. This has been taken away from them since the bye and I am not one bit happy about it as it's a necessity to work hard and train - thats the only way to rip defences apart.


He can coach 100% and the players are 100% with him.
Are you for real?
Did you see the game??


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:12 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
Walsh wrote:
DT is not going to get sacked - he is highly regarded by the club and board.


No doubt he's highly regarded. He seems a fantastic human of exceptional morality. An absolutely ripping bloke.
Nothing would make me happier than to see him succeed. Unfortunately, he just cant coach for shit.
To concede 130+ marks with no discernible change of strategy from the first quarter to the last minute tells me he's well and truly out of his depth. We persisted with the loose behind the ball whilst the opposition tore us a new one utilising their spare up the ground. Meanwhile we were flogged in the ruck and the only player who gave us any form of ascendancy in there (JSOS) sat in the forward pocket. Not for the first time, our coaches totally failed to read the momentum of the game. Instead waiting for us to succeed playing "our way". Unfortunately "our way" doesnt win games. We need to take away the oppositions strengths as well. Trouble is our coaches don't have the know how to do it. We needed to go man on man. Not 5 metres off. Not 10 metres off. Push up and take away the uncontested marks. Did you see any evidence of it?

Lovely bloke though. Highly regarded.


He can coach 100% and players are on his side 100%. This is not up for debate.


Yeah, it is.
We need a bit more than your word for it. Some actual evidence on field would be ideal.
We were tactically inept yesterday


Yes you do need more than my word for it. My word is pretty strong.

Yes we were tactically inept because players are playing a brand of football they werent training in the pre season which was free flowing attacking ball movement. Its ok to make slight adjustment but not wholesale changes. Teague is stuck between a rock and a hard place. He either coaches his way with his game style and his preference of players and type of player than going through this rubbish which he doesn't deserve. Teague is not only a top end human being.... he is also a top end leader in all facets.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:39 pm 
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Walsh wrote:
99prelim wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Fat chance - not even a trio of super coaches will turn around a pea hearted midfield.


You're an imbecile and you're too EQ-less to even understand the contempt most posters have for you

You told us DT would deliver multiple flags and that our coaches were elite...now that DT is on his way out, the midfield is who you're scatter-gunning with your bombast

Stop talking shit...and referring to players as 'pea hearts'

Hopefully you'll leave this forum after DT is sacked...just like you arrived after he was appointed


DT is not going to get sacked - he is highly regarded by the club and board. You will just always be a whimpy vindictive cry baby. Keep crying manbaby.


Hilarious and you are delusional!! He has 2 weeks left take it to the bank , i said it 2 months ago

He has no idea and the last 3 games proves this ,,,

We can’t string wins together , he backed in the senior boys and they burnt him

He has potentially 4 AA in his side with weiters jones Walsh macca!! And we are sitting 13th

Console yourself and say bye bye

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azzablue wrote:
Walsh wrote:
99prelim wrote:
Walsh wrote:
Fat chance - not even a trio of super coaches will turn around a pea hearted midfield.


You're an imbecile and you're too EQ-less to even understand the contempt most posters have for you

You told us DT would deliver multiple flags and that our coaches were elite...now that DT is on his way out, the midfield is who you're scatter-gunning with your bombast

Stop talking shit...and referring to players as 'pea hearts'

Hopefully you'll leave this forum after DT is sacked...just like you arrived after he was appointed


DT is not going to get sacked - he is highly regarded by the club and board. You will just always be a whimpy vindictive cry baby. Keep crying manbaby.


Hilarious and you are delusional!! He has 2 weeks left take it to the bank , i said it 2 months ago

He has no idea and the last 3 games proves this ,,,

We can’t string wins together , he backed in the senior boys and they burnt him

He has potentially 4 AA in his side with weiters jones Walsh macca!! And we are sitting 13th

Console yourself and say bye bye


Guarantee you will be another crying. I look forward to your hysterics.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:43 pm 
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So tell me, how does Gibbons(forward), Ed(forward), Newnes, Cottrell, Sps (back) fit in to Teague game plan of attacking footy? Cause I don’t see it with these players.

Ps. Walsh off the half back line on the weekend was a master stroke. The kid hasn’t recovered yet.......


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:45 pm 
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Wha.... you must have have drank more than me buddy and I've already polished a bottle of cab Sav.... but no idea what you are attempting to say here its ok try again


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