The answer is simple.

Two words.........................'One Agenda!'

Sadly we will never see that again. Carlton Football club has barely had one Agenda since about 1995 and getting everyone on the same page is simply not possible from here on in.

Being Capt Obvious, blind Freddy can see the entire World is fast devolving into an Agenda's driven society, on every level. I have 8 staff directly under me. Every phone call I get from them tends to be some subtle form of manipulation or an attempt to plant a seed for their own ends. After so many years with them I can read their Agenda's like a cheap novel.

Covid, Politics, Media, Social Media, Big Tech, Lift, Right. etc, etc, etc. It is all about 'I'm right you are wrong and how can I make money by taking a certain side or stance.'

Carlton FC is simply a microcosm of the World over the past 30 years. Having a personal Agenda and being selfish is the norm at most Football clubs. The Agenda's and cliques go on infinitum and I have seen them up close and personal for 11 years. 5 years since I finished, there are still plenty going on and things are obviously broken.

Carlton FC is so far away from having a single glorified Agenda, that hoping for a flag is like hoping to win Tatts.

For every CFC Board Member, there are 10 of their friends trying to influence them with their own selfish Agenda's. Some of the friends have real clout so the Agenda's get traction.

The World is pretty well @#$%^& so why should we expect CFC to be any better. People in Power, with Money are the pinnacle of the Agenda driven society.

I'm wondering if this is merely Lockdown 6.0 talking..............but tell me I am wrong and why.

Regards Cazzesman

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Couldn't be further from the truth.

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Was it Clarkson, or a rolling combination of Clarkson, Fagan, Hardwick, Ratten, Simpson, et al?

Just saying, he’s not making too many good players without them.

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If those players can't be developed any further, he shouldn't be playing them, and he should have put some up for trade last year.

He thought Finals was where we would be in 2021.

It can't be Injuries one week, then mediocre list the next.

SOS suffed up a few, but the culture hasn't evolved under Teague.

Players lacked a bit of energy, the way they picked themselves up off the ground...well take them off, keep tyhem off, until they really want to be out there.

Can't keep accepting rubbish from the players. Can't. That's what he's doing.

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He did do that.

He should have said more, but he's scared the players wioll drop hiom like they did Bolton.

Big mistake listening to the players who wanted their mate to coach them.
Its like parents who want to be their kids mate, and forget they're a parent.

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It's a coaching team, sure, that's modern footy. And you do need the players.

I think our top end talent is there, we need the middle tier to not be comfortable with their $400k-$600k pay packets and to feel like they have to actually earn it. Coaching and selection integrity will drive that. We have neither.

Head coach sets the standard for others to implement, picks his team accordingly (the sheer number of ex assistants now coaching and coaching flags says it's a decent standard) and clearly the head coach knew what he wanted in his support staff.

What standard does Teague drive? I see that with my eyes each week unfortunately.

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Congratulations CK95

Our bonafide midfielders are: Position/ Name (previously known as)

Ruck: ??
Inside Bull: Cripps (centre)
Inside Outside: Walsh (ruck rover)
Outside Speed: ?? (rover)

Big question is can Williams develop the engine forthe position in 2023?
Can Dow build the desire to compete all game in 2023?

Pittonet is compettive, and don't give me his standing with hit outs to advantage....coz I don't see those numbers translated to genuine advantage
Tom DeKoning needs to lean the craft whilst he builds strength and speed of mind over the next 2-3 years (let alone learn how to kick and handball)

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Well put Cazz, very hard to argue with any of that.

I still hold out hope that the good people of the world, with pride and a will to make a difference, will turn our club around.

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Great insight, mate.

Fish rots at the head.

We need a strong leader to lead the way.

Can’t afford to have any cronies involved.

If we constantly lose clearances that means opposition constantly get easy inside 50s putting our defence under the pump.

We should be breaking even at minimum not get slaughtered giving away 10+ inside 50 from clearances and stoppages alone.

We need two players that average roughly six tackles and six clearances with 70% disposal efficiency at minimum.

For those that say great coaches make average players good and bla bla... yeah we have already seen that with Pagan and Malthouse. Poor player is a poor player no matter how one wants to sugar coat it. Nothing anyone can do other than the realisation they have reached peak ability.

Agree and can't get more agenda driven than Sayers with ties to self serving interests through the liberal party. Maybe he sees his position in power at the club to further persuit a political career.

Nothing wrong with it per se but he is not a football person he is a politcian wannabe. Its amazing how fast accountants have moved up the ranks in the world.

WOW

Spot on

Club needs a psychologist to get this through players head on the one side, and on the other side to get rid of players with a loser's mentality.

Some players are instinctively competitive.

They're the one's who will give a second effort and a third effort, and be really upset with losing a contest let alone a game.

Teague obviously isn't the one to move the players emotionally, nor the one to shake the tree so the weks fall out and discarded. They're his mates.

Bolton was coaching for the long term, Teague is coaching for short term success, and the players are all he's got.

Teague's not going to discard a bird in the hand, even if its wing is broken.

IMO

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Maybe SOS' philosophy with his complete list rebuild of say, 40 players, with half of them 1st rounders, and the other half made up of mainly 2nd rounders, he'd be able to delist or trade 1st rounders to show the footy world, let alone the list, he means business if they didn't give what he wanted, hence change the culture from season to season. Similarly the philosophy would be applied to change the culture in 24 hours by dropping seniors, first rounders, or any of the entitled conditional players from the team to the reserves till they show the qualities necessary to play winning football, or as some said, the old Carlton way.

Teague stuffed up this year time and time again since round 2 when all he dropped after the loss to Collingwood was Williamson, which was right, but kept the other pea heart fumbling seniors in the team week in week out when they deserved to be dropped....because he believed in them?

Culture. Teague made his bed believing in the players who let him and the team and the club down week after week. Murphy was only one of the seniors who thought he was entitled, and like other senior players, and some favourites were conditioned to believe they were entitled to a spot in the 22.

We need a tough task master to churn out the weak, and get winning culture drummed into these pea hearts.

Hey, Teague's game plan is another story, that doesn't start with "once upon a time...", but WTF is it?

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True, but surely we can muster a core of 15/45 to drive standards.

Problem is we don't know because they've never had to play to a standard week in week out.

IMO

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There's a bloke who would blow a fuse if he saw someone going in half hearted or playing like an entitled premadona.

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There is plenty of evidence to stay you are spot on !!

The facts are the facts !!

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He stuffed up preseason by not working on last years deficiencies period
Not sure what the hell they were doing over the summer he snd the rest of the coaches

Couldn’t get the team to turn up multiple weeks
Couldn’t fix players or team having whole quarters where they don’t turn up
Couldn’t fix deficiencies with game plan - no defensive mechanism

Very few players improved since last year

Might be worth getting Joe Ingles and Patty Mills into the club to talk about One Agenda, commit to a common goal, sacrifice and Unity.

Regards Cazzesman

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What's your Agenda?

In all seriousness, well put. Great analogy. Just hope that the Board doesn't influence the Football Dept, and if they do, The Review should? could? would? make mention of that as a problem.

I don't see how the Board influences Teague's player selection, commitment to the contest, individual competitiveness and Pride, but then again I read somewhere recently, or heard Clarkson doesn't like the idea of coming to Carlton because the Board interferes too much in Footy Ops.

After reading your post Caz, I feel like I'm backing a bunch of losers....the new St Kilda.

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