We didn't control the ball. We kept giving it back to them.
10 goals from forward half turnovers. Mostly 5 or 6 players trying to defend 8 or 9 in transition.
It's not that simple.

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Yes - it needs to be minimised no doubt.
Improvement in forward pressure and better ball use moving forward could minimise it. We wont get enough good looks moving forward and lock the ball in our forward half if numbers don't go through there.
But the desire to sprint back and defend as well. Only Newnes has half a clue on how to play the wings. The rest just jog around the ground pushing daisies.

I feel for Walshy.

I didn't get my info from BF nor an email.
All the info I'm hearing makes sense, rumour or not.
My source isn't a rumour monger, that's all I'll say.

Teague's 2021 results can be attributed to injuries in part, and that hasn't been enough to save Wayne Brittain or Bret Ratten's coaching tenure at carlton in the past. So the writing IS on the wall.

As mentioned a plenty, its been said by one who works close with Teague that Teague is out of his depth. That means something to me, especially coming from whom it did.

There is a lack of belief or evidence that Teague knows how to assemble a game plan. He comes from a background as a Forwards Line Coach, and now has an aggressive plan on all out attack, something the Crows used when Teague was Forwards coach, and had success for one year, but got smashed in the GF. It didn't stand up in the big dance. Its entertaining but its open to exploitation, as we have seen for the last 2 years with "Teague's Gift".

Teague's future is obvious. He isn't oblivious. He has said that on TV.

Sorry Walshy, but its not looking good for Teague.

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Have a look at the players we fielded against North regardless of Injuries.

We had a team, apart from Walsh, Stocker and Cottrell, who were more experienced, had been on a list longer, done more preseasons, and coached longer by the same coach (Teague) than the north players. North looked like they knew what to do and how to disassemble us with ease. Our boys haven't learned how to defend, how to connect etc etc...covid or not. North have been hit with the same constraints, if not worse, given their coach walked out on them, as Teague and his team have.

Our team was clueless, rudderless or really confused. Teague owns that. Teague is not getting improvement in forward pressure, nor locking the ball in to score...that's a falacy. Actions speak louder than words.

His words are falling on deaf ears because ...its not working. Teague is failing big time.

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Teague is probably gone.
We should start a book on how long it'll take until this playing group ruins the next coach's career.

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Rudderless is getting hammered 10 goals frequently. Not happening
Confused is players not knowing their roles....I agree they were confused AF past weekend

Now only if we can have something that resembles a game day structure like all other teams in the competition instead of this nonsense against NM.

Agree our players are a concern , and need to wake up their ideas about what being part of a competitive AFL team is all about.
Regarding Teauge he’s been lambasted unfairly , he’s learning on the job type coach , trying his best, but it’s not quick enough.
A champion of our game , has said very aptly, CFC doesn’t need a coach on training wheels , he’s immortalized the idiom

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If he supposedly was the players' choice (or some key players' choice), which was not supported by those that should have been the key decision makers in the appointment then ultimately I think that is where his papers were stamped on day 1.. For whatever reason there was no consensus on his appointment.

Within the ranks that must have created dissent from the top which if left to fester would have filtered through, even subconsciously.

So, for a coach that was MEANT to be given latitude as he learned the role of a Senior Coach, it seams to me that once he needed to tighten a few screws, he was given no quarter.

Typical poorly cultured office politics

When have I ever said I hate Clarko, like ever?

Does that mean Teague has too much on his plate and needs more support or just he isn’t cut out for a senior coaching gig?

Unlike others I agree with a lot of what you post, and I do think our ball movement is pretty good, our defence had been better the last month but we fell apart on Saturday.

It is a concern we are killed so often on transition, and that’s been a problem for 2 years now.

In saying that I think we reached a tipping point with players out on Saturday.

I’m still in favour of bolstering Teagues assistants and pumping more resources into our football program, as I get the feeling we have been more worried about keeping purse strings tight with covid, but think that will change.

In saying that, I’ll trust the findings of the review, and Teague wouldn’t want any repeat performances of the North game for the rest of the season, especially if we have Harry and Charlie in the side.

Reading between the lines, it is clear the no-one on the Board wants to keep Teague. The only difference in views is about whether to sack him now or wait until next year when Clarkson becomes available.
And, from reports, the review has interviewed lots of footy people within the club and from outside the club.
It therefore feels like they believe he is not up to it. Vs the Hardwick/Thompson approach of surrounding him with better support and focusing his activities more on the footy.

I have moved from being a supporter of Teague to now leaning against him continuing mainly b/c of seeing too many players looking like they didn’t know what to do or where to go, or couldn’t be arsed to do so. Either way, this comes down mostly on the coach (as well as an indictment on recruitment and development). I suspect all three areas, and more, will be up for significant change.


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People get way too high and low based of a few weeks of footy. North playing well now is largely off the back of older guys like Goldy, Ziebell and cunnington doing a lot of the heavy lifting and have had some continuity playing stocks wise.

They’d be happy with their last month, but we’d have been happy with ours before the North game…

Any word from your sources of who we will go for as coach?

A Ross Lyon or will it be a more methodical process?

From the rumour mill that BB seems to think is not too far off, it seems like they have leanings but will still go through a process. The interesting part is the leaning away from Lyon due to circumstances around him leaving Freo. Aside from that, I would have thought he would be perfect for this group of players to get them uncompromisingly aligned behind a clear game plan, and set the standards required to be a part of the team: no passengers, no gifted games.
The two names mentioned at the top of the list are Brad Scott and Don Pyke. But others incl Voss, and some highly rated assistants would be included in the process subject to them wanting to be. (This coaching selection stuff has become so political in terms of candidates not wanting to put their name forward in case they are tarnished by missing out; others only putting thier name in if they are already guaranteed the job etc clouds who may be really part of the process and who may be appearing to remain distant...)

I thought he meant that when he said the job is too big for him he meant he isn't ready to be Head Coach.

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I doubt there is going to be much more said than already has.
Review continues ... that will be interesting.

I'm hearing different things from different people, but the one I trust suggests Proper Process and "casting the net" for those who want to apply.

I don't know how they will do that incognito/ before the announcement in the last week re Teague's tenure. There's names like Caracella and Yze that need to be sounded too. That would have to be done in a Proper Process, and assistants would need permission from their clubs to apply.

I don't know.

I do get the feel that things may turn around quickly or club goes backwards to go forwards.

I get the feel that the problems are not exclusively the coach, and some of the players selected by SOS are conditional types that wont make the cut and will have to go. I think there's going to be a lot cut loose at years end. Posted probable names elsewhere. Some obvious papers stamped: Murphy Eddie Levi Marchy Gibbons. The latter 3 are injured and or lame. Doubt Fish and SPS will be with us. Part of a Cerra Deal? Haven't heard Cerra's name mentioned other than the crap on SEN fake news.

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The age old question
How much of that third quarter is due to the Head Coach
How much is the players
I believe it’s the players mainly
Some basics of the game dont enter the players heads

A new coach may change a players mindset in regards to defensive pressure
Maybe not
My biggest criticism of Teague has been to continually play blokes who look nice, have big reputations but squib it don’t chase tackle but will still get paid and even if there dropped know they will be back playing seniors quickly

The lack of accountability is astonishing
Look at SPS
Came with huge wraps everyone saying what a skills set he has
He was injured when he started but gets a senior game when fit
93 games later you couldn’t get a softer lazy footballer than him
Plowman 125 games. Wouldn’t get a game in a decent team
Martin comes straight back in this year and other than 3 decent quarters out of 24 has offered almost nothing
McGovern is sent to the fat farm on 2019. A professional athlete who can’t keep himself fit.
No return to the reserves straight back into the seniors
Murphy don’t need to say anymore

I look at this in regards to a team environment and think what do the guys who are showing something in the magoos think about this when they can’t get a game

It’s [REDACTED]
I remember Nick Graham saying recently he got dropped after getting 28 possessions having 9 inside 50s and not many turnovers in a 109 point drubbing against Melbourne and getting dropped
No champion bu a good honest footballer not being treated fairly

You can’t have a good culture with shit like this going on

There should be wholesale changes this week regardless of what Covid has done to the reserves
Teague seems part of this pathetic culture that some are treated differently in regards to getting a game over others

I'd like to see SPS and Fisher combined in a trade for a talented Victorian at a WA club to come home.

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Trent Sporn and Luke Livingston for Chris Judd kinda thing?

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