Noticed GCS 'found a way' to beat GWS...we would've found a way to win...errr nearly win...err not lose by much...err a 20-30 point loss...err that margin would be paying $1.01 at Sportsbet

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The chances of us winning yesterday were always very minimal. Id say we should of beaten Dogs though from the position we were in, and have been disappointing in many games this year, but yesterday wasn't one of them in terms of effort. I think the run and gun style worked, we didn't kick straight (I think partly because playing that style of game is exhausting, but we missed some early and it compounded)

Need to move the ball better than we did yesterday. Setting players behind the ball not going to win flags.. but had no one as that relief kick and linking play. Jack and Cripps played that role at times but needed to move the ball far quicker to break down Geelongs' defence and put them under the pump H was consistently triple teamed as we were slow to move the ball. Need to be more attacking...

Yesterday was because of personnel we played the way we did, chances are if we went more attacking with 2 KPP's and an inexperienced 15 game ruck we'd have been smashed.

Yep and Swans just beat the Dogs and Gold Coast beat GWS.

Mired in mediocrity

He needs to stop listening to Healy Lyon Brown Lyons Lloyd King on Monday night football shows and adapt a plan and stick to it.

Montana said Cripps should pinch hit in the ruck backed by King and here we are yesterday Cripps taking the Ruck.

They were critical of defence and now we stack numbers behind the ball.

They went hunting Murphy and he got dropped.

Seriously they must piss themselves laughing.

We have the best full forward in the competition and the best small forward ever to play the game and they are up on the wing trying to win a kick because the media says our defence is not good enough.

I don't mind Teague he seems honest but I think he is a dead man walking

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Every week it seems there is a new problem. This week it is execution under pressure. It just doesn't seem like we are improving.

Freo in the 8 now, so we have 2 wins against final 8 sides, stop your complaining people!

I think you’re jumping at shadows.

Cripps has “pinch-hit” in the ruck pretty much every game this year, but Silvagni did the bulk of second ruck work.

Having Casboult and Jones out forced us to go ultra defensive just for this week.

Murphy is injured.

We should never have beaten Freo. We were simply lucky to have the other mob fail to kick straight for a change.

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Correct.
As for the game plan, I have no problem with it whatsoever. We have been evolving the team defence over the past month and Saturday was just another layer of it.
Our defenders were less isolated, our mids and forwards pushed up the ground to assist/provide a link coming out of defence and our players were better connected. Syd likes the idea of Harry winning the Coleman and our forwards playing good old 80's football but we'll never progress if we continue with it. It's taken Teague and co 2+ years to understand a game plan needs a foundation of defensive structural integrity.
We are great at creating space and stretching zones and banging it in to Harry but we get smashed when we turn it over or give the ball back via free kicks or scoring points.

Teague likes attractive football. Well, attractive football doesn't win premierships without a defensive foundation.
Personally I can handle losing games of footy if the other team are better or more skilful. And that's what happened on the weekend. The strategies employed gave us every opportunity to succeed. It was our goal kicking that beat us. What were we? 1.14 at near 3/4 time or somewhere around there. And yet we were within 3 goals.

You need a game style that promotes and rewards effort. McKay had more defensive intent on Saturday than he has all season. He tackled and harassed which allowed us to keep the ball in a contested situation.
That's what will make us a good team.
Put Charlie, McGovern, Jones, Cuningham, Doc, Fisher and a couple of our up and comers into that team with that structure and we'll win many more games than we lose. We'll significantly increase our inside 50 count from Saturday with options for the bail out kick. It will also make us harder to defend because we can use run and carry out of defence by getting numbers back or we can go long to Charlie and Harry. We've been 1 dimensional for too long under Teague. Continue this footy and we'll start to get real value from Saad, Williams and Docherty.

Credit to the coaches. Obviously someone has made our strategies more comprehensive and more relevant to current day tactics. Whether it be Teague or his hand was forced by assistants or the review, it doesn't really matter. As long as it's sustained and built upon, our team will be far better served.

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You need to go watch that replay again - It was shite- Dry day we lose by 60 plus
Two patches of good football at the beginning of the 1st and 3rd quarters the rest was rubbish struggled to get beyond half way - 38 inside 50's says it all
Players running out of defence looking up with no one to kick to then only to see ball sail back over their heads - Thank God for Weitering and Stocker

Play like this again this week as Collingwood will say WTF are we doing at this end of the ground haven't been here all year - hang on theres the goals lets kick through them

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SB that is like arguing about a film or a book, "if only character x did this" or "if only that happened at the end"... Character x cannot do anything other than be character x, how a book or film ends is the only how a book for film ends.

We played in the conditions we played in and for that game that is all we can talk about, not some alternative reality where Saturday was a balmy 25 degrees, the ground in perfect condition, no wind etc.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

So we kicked 2.13 half way through the 3rd quarter.

Then when the game was shot we kicked 3.1 from that point.

Against teams we were expected to be ‘at our level’ or just below in Adelaide (12.13) and Freo (10.3 to start the game) we were very accurate.

Against Geelong same ground, perfect conditions game on the line we dish up 2.13 then when they have a comfortable lead and we can’t win 3.1 from that point.

Perhaps oversimplifying it but surely surely mental strength and confidence comes in to it? Coaching cannot be absolved of that.

And if I recall correctly a lot of those behinds against Adelaide were in the last quarter when the game was in the balance again (5 or 6). When we were on a roll in the 2nd quarter we couldn’t miss.

Are our players completely bereft of confidence in themselves, their teammates, the coaches, the game plan? I think so

Absolutely.

Always a problem with choirboys.

SPS could've have shown reason to keep him on the list...for his silky skills, then misses from 25 out. Its between the ears. Soft cocks.

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Defensive football is allowing inside 50s by the dozens full.

Can't allow that type of discrepancy and expect to win flags.

We should be passed that - this is timid and protectionist.

Foot on throat and never die wondering.

To quote you, "You need to go watch that replay again"
That's what happened last time we played them with your favourite all attack/no defence game style.
The only game this year they've scored over 100 points.

For the record, of the last 40 flag winners, 38 have been ranked within the league’s top-6 from a defensive point of view.
But hey, let's do our own thing. It's worked so well to date.

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I understand how you conclude we are allowing the ball to come to the defense.

Can't go all out attack whilst our midfield group isn't winning clean ball.

For an attacking game plan, it needs to start at:

a. the ruck
b. inside mid
c. outside mid
d. inside outside mid
e. connection to outside runners or high HF's

We are missing a lot. Cripps is not clean ball...we had that discussion last week.
All Cripps has to do is give it off to better skilled players.

But we do have Walsh and Cripps, and know what Cripps can do, but missing the vital a. and c.to go all out attack and no defense, then whose the e.?

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Bit of both is the winning formula. Tempo control.

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