Shits me no end hearing and reading that Cats had a brave win with Selwood and Cameron missing from the previous week's winning team, along with Duncan.

That's only 3 players out of a top 4 team.

Lets get real. We lost by 26 points, after woeful kicking for goal.

Our young bottom 6 team has been rocked by injury, all year, and its kind of forgotten how bad it is especially the big guys.

8 missing from our best 22:

200 Pittonet (No.1 Ruck)
200 Casboult (Fwd-Ruck)
198 Jones (CHB)
193 Marchbank (3rd tall intercept marker)
194 Curnow (CHF)
190 McGovern (HF)
185 Docherty (captain)
185 Cuningham (HF)

Plus Emergencies who would be selected if fit.

196 McDonald (Tall utility)
186 Philp (speedy wing)
178 Murphy (HF)
175 Gibbons (HF)

That is a dire position to be in against a top 4 team.
I thought we did well, and those misses from SPS Newnes Curnow. Owies were inexcusable for AFL footballers.

We were carrying Setterfield, Fogarty, Betts, Martin, Owies, and Williamson was Ok, but not AFL level.

Midfielders Dow, SPS, Kennedy and cripps didn't get enough of the ball either.

Can't blame all that on Teague. He did have a choice to play Cottrell and Fisher ahead of Setterfield and Fogarty.

Can't rely on Levi's knee anymore.

No wonder Cripps and Jack had to do some of the ruck work (Kane Cornes). No one else left, and someone had to give 21yo DeKoning a chop out.

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Technical but good point sinners, but otherwise we haven't got anything to show for it other than Cripps like Walsh says.

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Jones is a good player the problem is the gulf between his best and his worst is huge
Also he needs to be given specific instructions about what is the expectation when he disposed of the ball in the back half and regularly kicks to the opposition who scores goals
Play within limitations don’t try to buy off switch kick when 6 out of 10 times you can’t effect the kick
His marking and spoiling is generally exemplary

Lev has been a good player and a testament to perseverance in coming off rookie list and playing 150 games snd making himself an AFL player
The last 12 months he hasn’t been great probably because of injury
Once again given injury and slowing down also needs to play within his limitations ie no curtesy short passes and handballs

I’ve worked it out. You’re in sales, right?
You are a bigger spinner than Shane Warne.
The list rebuild started when it started. EOS.

Teague and the coaching staff needed to fix both of these points Frank.
Just like telling Harry to stop trying to kick around the corner in most circumstances and to go back and trust his bloody straight kicks. He can kick when he composes himself and concentrates.
Coaches!!!

We use our injury list as an excuse when we lose but when most of those players are selected, people will call for them to be either dropped, or complain their not playing in the only position they're supposedly capable of playing well... can't win ffs

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The players Ive names as best 22 are in my best 22 and probably close to everyone else's.

Some posters complain about everything whilst some Board members remain, or the best 22 players who are injured are selected by a coach they want to remove.

You're right, can't win either way, but who gives a pharque about that anyway.

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Here's another way of looking at it. Which of the abovementioned wouldn't be in our best 22 if fit?
and if not, whose ahead of them?

IMO, all the above would be in our best 22 if fit.
Probably Levi would be the only questionable one because he's carrying a knee problem. He is purely selected because we have no other Fwd Ruck to give Pitto or Tom a chop out. Then there's the Silvagni vs McGovern debate, but that's borderline, and good reasons to play both.

Then again, some would have other injured players ahead of the abovementioned: McDonald, Murphy, Gibbons, Philp. I'm a huge Philp fan and could easily have McDonald ahead of Levi if he was fit (because maybe Levi's knee is finished).

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Yes but once again that is a convenient excuse.

We weren't expected to win...so we didn't. Just ONCE it would be good to get a backs against the wall win. A lot of teams go through these type of injuries but every one at some point ends up winning against all odds e.g. West Coast v us a few weeks ago.

Not even have to be a good side, just to show their supporters they are on the right track get a defining win.

We NEVER ever do this. We have players missing so we'll just go ahead and lose as expected.

It's getting tiresome.

IMHO, the issue is not about the ability of the personnel but about their mindset. Yes, the injuries didn't help but they are not the reasons we keep losing over and over and over again in similar ways

Do people really believe Sam Walsh or Weiters are supermen on ability alone? I don't. They are mentally driven to offer non negotiable resistance, first effort, second effort, grit, tenacity, willingness to win every contest, supporting a team mate etc etc.

In fact JSOS is your perfect example of a player who is not the most skilled but is one of the first picked...why???

I am strong believer that actions and outcomes on the field are a direct and inextricable product of the headspace the players are in

Our coachng panel have not been able to activate the team/individual mindset to compete to the best of their ability, on a consistent basis between games and within games for the last two years...in fact, even DTs first game as coach could be a copy/paste game where we came to play in 2 quarters

The two wins against Adelaide and Freo were also perfect examples...the only difference is that neither of those teams are in the same discussion as Geelong and we won...wooohoo

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Winning against Carlton is never "against all odds".

I used to say things like that all the time.

But take a look at me now... there's just an empty space

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Congratulations CK95

I've been saying that SOS has built a mid table list and the proof is in the pudding as they say...

Pittonet - due to lack of options
Jones - much maligned but he's been super important to our back 6 imo
Curnow - only if he can live up to pre injury potential

These are the players from your list which I consider the big outs in our best 22... the rest should we should be able to cover... even Doc... especially if you have a good system that all the players can buy in to.

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GC can find a way to beat Richmond
StK can find a way to beat Brisbane
We just find ways to "not lose by much"

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Yes and it needs to end very quickly - honourable losses are losses make all the excuses you like but a team that doesn’t know how to win but also doesn’t seem to want to do the hard yards to win

Nope, either of a comedian or fictionist
Personally i think he is a comic, makes me laugh

On the money 99prelim.

i love how teague and his panel let stewart and other defenders patrol HBf on there own UNBELIEVABLE

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How nervous will this guy be next week for this match against ttr pies he doesn’t know whether they will turn up and we know the pies will