Nah. It's a no from me.







Sorry. Thread a bit grim.

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Congratulations CK95

Take ‘em where you can get ‘em I say…

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“When a clown moves into a palace, he doesn't become a king. The palace turns into a circus.”
Turkish Proverb

I'm reminded of a famous Pagan-ism at this point

Actually, I believe the late Moshe had something similar in his signature...

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So are you saying they weren’t playing for him when we played the pies this year ?? Or the swans , the eagles (10 players out ). And gws again ??

To start redeeming himself he would need to win at least 5 out of the next 7 games ( let’s not talk.finals anymore that’s absurd)
He has to retire Murphy because he isn’t in our best 22
And Zac fisher to come back thru the reserves ( he has only played 4 games this year )

Let’s see if he can make tough calls , answer is simply no !!

So let’s move on , he will fail all these tests

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#sayerscouldbetheman!!

"There are 10 types of people in the world...those who understand binary & those who don't"?

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#DonTheStash

Trouble is it's a 4 quarter game Bondi.
When Freo hit the lead in the last quarter, they'd had 11 more scoring shots and 14 more inside 50's. We were fortunate they'd missed some sitters and we weren't 5-6 goals down.
The cracks were wallpapered over by the final score. Our midfield output after half time was abysmal.
After quarter time, they had 46 inside 50's to our 23.
We were fortunate they kicked poorly as they dominated the game after quarter time.

There were plenty of positives but there were areas of huge concern as well. As you said, the resilience in the final quarter was great to see. I wouldn't be considering finals. I just want to see players like Dow, Stocker and Kennedy continue to get opportunities. The team defence to evolve and for Charlie to make a successful return. Then it's up to those doing the review to make the necessary changes.

As for Clarkson, no thanks.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

I remember back in 1987.
Great year. Carlton Premiers.15th Premiership.

Dr Edelstein owned the Sydney Swans and Swanettes.
Sydney were the next big thing. Heady days.

Tom Hafey was coach.
His charter was to produce an attractive brand of footy to bring in the crowds to the SCG.
High Marking. High scoring. Daring. Different.
"Here's the chequebook" say the Doc.

Hafey did it. Had 7 losses along the way
But they played the most dazzling, amazing football anyone has ever seen week in week out for a while there.
Huge scores, week in week out by 198, 195, 185, peaking with the following run:

Def WCE kicking 201 points, next week
Def Effendrug* kicking 236 points



Ladder

1. Carlton 18W
2. Hawk 17W
3. Sydney 15 W
4. Nth 13W
5. Melb 12 W

Sydney got smacked in the finals by Hawks and Melb.

They were not a great defending team. Carlton smashed them physically to slow them down.
Capper wasn't flapping. Healey wasnt running and Rhys Jones put Williams off his game.
Our Mosquito fleet was the equal to Healey Mitchell Williams Wright Neagle Bolton

Moral of the story is you have to have more strings to your bow to win an AFL Flag.

You need an Offensive game, Defensive Game, Contested ball Game to have an even chance on the day.

Hopefully Carlton are building towards an era of success: a Dynasty. They key players are still young.

Need a great coach.

Teague needs to show he can bring 2 other parts of the game.
Its a mindset, injuries can't mask. One soldier in, one soldier out.

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Our Mosquito Fleet was one of the most underrated brigade of footballers of all time.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

I will stop being a Member if Clarkson is our coach. My kids can take me to the footy, if they really have to.

We won the last 2 games because we did not fold in the last quarters when it really counted: that's my point.
That's a mindset I like. Playing to win. And we did.
Players playing for the coach? All I know is that they were playing to win!
We missed sealers in the 4th, and yet we won by 16. The win was fair and square. Our defenders put on heaps of pressure and killed a lot of ball. Mids helped.

We need to look for the cause of the deficiency with our clearances:

Crippa played lame after 2nd Qtr. He's our bull.

Darcy killed DeKoning in the ruck in the 3rd quarter, after slowly cooking him in the 2nd.
The feed from Darcy to his mids was...the stats tell the story.
That's not something any coach could change, and when Teague did, with Levi, he quelled the big fella...and we won.

Its will take a few years before he's a big dominant kahuna.
We need a replacement for Levi, quick. But needs to be better than Pittonet too.
That's imo should be our No 1 target. We need a No 1 ruck for next 3 years. He feeds the mids. Pitto isn't the answer.

The injured will come back to the fold this year starting with Fisher this week, then Charlie, then Setterfield, and big boys Gov and Oscar.

We should know something about the team and the coach by years end, and The Review will do exactly that.
Fact is, the Team and the Review may force the hand of Management with regard to their decision on the Coach, not us.

Exciting times. Dow, Kennedy, Stocker couldn't have come on at a better time. I hope they keep getting better.
Tom DeKoning may have a better chance winning the ruck this week than he had against Darcy.

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5 centre clearances in his last 4 games of footy?
He isn't playing like bull, Bondi. I have no idea what has happened whether it be injury, instruction or what but his ball winning has been very poor.
Add to that 55 uncontested to 37 contested possessions in the past 4 games and the balance is well out of whack. I could understand if he was injured but he's still getting centre bounces ahead of Dow, Kennedy, Curnow etc.
FFS, give someone else a shot if Cripps isn't winning the ball. Surely after 4 weeks of being belted in the midfield, the sirens would be going off in the coaches box?

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

OMG He shot at Bambi!!!!

Love you Frank.......keep on Frankin'

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

I have been questioning Cripps myself but he has been named in the best players the last 2 weeks and one coach saw fit to give him BOG against Freo.


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They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

Thanks Cazz I didn’t know Bambi was a gnarly old bloke with oxygen tanks

Hey Frank, shame people see one thing they don't like then tar the whole world with that weary bristle. Your posts have always been reasoned and reasonable.

BV on the other hand....

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Crippa hasn't played like a bull all year: generally speaking.
In fact, add last year to that.

As you point out, he's not playing his role because he's focussed on uncontested ball: he's become the self ordained receiver?
Doesn't the coach control that?

I think our cause would be better served with a dominant ruckman whilst DeKoning grows into the role.
Let the kids rile the centre bounces: Kennedy, Dow, Walsh with a view to add Cuningham, a fitter Williams, and maybe Philp (he goes well as an inside mid too, but with abundant pace).
Cripps isn't the be all to end all. Setterfield plays better at the stoppages or centre bounce when Cripps isn't there. Carroll in a couple years. Even Docherty.
There's plenty of options to replace a non performer at the heat of the contest

I agree, he should move over, if he isn't making a difference. Pick on form.
If he was hurting the opposition physically, in a game of attrition, great, then he's doing something for our long game, but he's not doing that either.

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Only 24 days left to make a decision on our 2022 Assistant Coaches.
The Review will help make an informed decision whether to give Teague's current Assistants notice or not.

Carlton, like all teams must notify their Assistant Coaches of the clubs plans for them for 2022 by August 1.
Thank goodness a Review can help steer the right decision in this space.

The questions on development will focus on what the Football Dept is doing right and wrong.
Is the coach giving them enough exposure (to the position they were drafted for, or just exposure) to expedite development? or gifting them games?
Are the development Coaches doing a good job with developing our draftees?
Has the Covid lockdown responsible for level of development in the VFL?
Has injury curtailed development for our Draftees?
Why so many injuries? Why haven't our (senior and young) players run out games, or, played for 4 quarters?

Really important questions needing answers regarding the Football Dept, and needing them before August 1.
Its not just about the coach.

Availability of Nathan Buckley and now Alastair Clarkson raises important questions of Teague: that's natural.
I really like Teague, but I know nothing that goes on behind the scenes, other than what I was told over a month ago that "The job is too big for Teague". Not telling who the source is, other than to say, came from a highly regarded person of the Football Dept. But that was maybe 6 weeks ago.

The landscape has changed in the last 2 weeks for carlton, teague and the assistants, with improved performance and great last quarters.

Bring on the Cats. I need a reality check.
If we beat the Cats, it will say alot about our development.

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the problem is the recruiting in terms of mids
Kennedy and Dow have been good not awesome good in the last fortnight
Cripps is ok
Walsh gun
Curnow struggling
If O’ Connor plays then obviously he would tag Walsh

Last weeks Freo game once again highlighted how poor our mids are
Take Walsh out of it and where rooted
As I have said repeatedly it isn’t Teague it’s recruiting
Still would like to fast track Ramsay and Carroll

Well.........I would've like to have Matt Rowell at the club playing alongside Walsh.

Or lying alongside Charlie, if you know what I mean.

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On the treatment table! You sick filth.

Good on you frank. no dramas. you didn't get under my skin. I think you may have been right to have a go too.

Funny, I was thinking early this week that I responded to you and another poster with a 'Walsh' like response to what I now understand your comment being just sarcasm regarding the timing of Carlton good news stories such as Curnow's return after a huge loss. Like Walshy does, I got a bit touchy.

My position was to defend the club's integrity. My frustration, and that's what it is, is built up from the constant bad news stories referencing Carlton in the media. As a result I wanted to pull up anyone saying any mistruths (imo), when in actual fact your post was just tongue in cheek commentary. I should be bashing up the Carlton bashers not Carlton posters. Got that wrong. In fact, I didn't need to comment at all. and should've laughed at the joke instead.

Like Walsh, I like to defend the club I love, but I seem to dismiss the fact you also love the club just as much as I do, and like me, have nothing but best interests at heart for Carlton. Funny that.

I hope Walshy tones down a bit, and continues to post his opinions but sees that posters opinions are not at all Teague bashing. We are all debating. We all want what's best for Carlton.

Some posters have written off Teague completely. That's just a decision they make. BV and many others haven't written Teague off (yet). Walshy has made some good points in support of Teague's ability and direction. BV rebutted with a counter argument. It doesn't need to be heated. There's gaps which have been identified in the media, posters, and by our own BV, who does have a good eye for footy. I'm in agreeance with a lot that Walsh presents. Almost convincing till the personal stuff becomes the focus and detracts from the intelligent analysis.

Point is, Walsh isn't completely right, ditto BV given no one knows exactly why Teague has coached the way he has, and why the same weaknesses happen week in week out. It may be what it seems to be for individual posters, but then again, it may not be what it seems.

You seem to be a very reasonable poster, but then again, that's what you seem to be. Its not fact. or, Is it?

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