A fact hey - can you show us the date of the press conference when Teague was appointed coach?

Do you like making up stories to fit a narrative like a good marketing person.

I can take any figures I want to tell a tale I want to say. Ask Mr Sayers with numbers you can do anything you like on a cash flow statement audited by yourself.

Still being personal Walsh?

So I'm "like "a good marketing person" now?
Just like another poster who challenged you is like a "pansy in a pink ballerina dress" and "weak" .
Others are "darlings" or "princesses"
Just like you tried to undermine the credibility of Frank Dardew. Just like you try to undermine the credibility of anyone who dares disagree. Very courageous behaviour from behind the keyboard.

Try arguing the point. If you're so confident in your own views, back them up.

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Excuse me but those who attack me will get it served back and you have done your fair share of attacking even personal threats. I dont care too much about it - you are lucky. You have the perfect traits of an aggressive authoritarian oppressor. Listen to me or

So tell me - Mr Facts

Show the date of the press conference when Teague was appointed and what happened in his first year as coach.

Love the highlighted bit.

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So how long was Teague's contract when he was appointed - didnt see that in your links. Maybe try again.?

I'm not your @#$%&! secretary. You asked me to provide some links. I was kind enough to do so.
If you want any further info, try Google.

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Sorry but your incestant lying about the club isnt going unnoticed

You stated three years which is factually incorrect. It's not hard to say you made a mistake and just making things up to fit my erroneous story out to the public domain.

So what happened in Teagues first year as senior coach and how many games has he coached by utilising VFL and Carltons facilities to his advantage?

Or are you going to tell to me to google that too and cant stand by your idiotic statements?

Where did I say 3 years?

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You've trotted this one out several times but unfortunately repetition doesn't make it valid.

Teague is in to his 3rd year of coaching


---- Teague is in fact in his 13th year of VFL/AFL coaching but as senior coach his tenure officially begun in 2020 - he has a three year contract that expires in 2022.

So no, he is not in his third year he is in 13th year.

..and no, he is not in his third year as senior coach , he is officially in his 2nd year.

Why cant you stick by your erroneous and continuous hatred filled statements?

Who is currently senior coach of Collingwood?

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Sorry Walsh but you're wrong, what ever way you want to position it.

It is the 3rd year of Teague's coaching, interim or appointed head coach, it doesn't matter, he's been in charge.
He has technically coached over 2 full seasons of games, 43 in total (2019 - 11, 2020 - 18, 2021 - 16).
He has had 2 pre seasons to "De-Boltonise" the team.
To be honest I don't even know why you give a $h!t about this, it doesn't even answer BV's OP.

And to be factually correct, defence is the one part of the game Bolton had working for us (remember the press giving it to us because we couldn't score over 100pts).
Attack was the issue and is what Teague brought in, added to that, seniors in the middle all at the expense of development and defence.
Now this is where we're at.

It's good to see there is a change but it's too little too late for me. The bloke has no game tactics otherwise these lapses of teams getting on top of us for lengthy periods of time would be over. Lucky to win on the weekend IMO.

I respect your position without the aggression and hate towards a Carlton man.

These last two-three weeks haven't changed my views on Teague at all. In fact, they validate the "conditional" ennvironment that Teague has presided over

We played 2 average teams and fell over the line after having control...woohoo!!!!

More players are playing in their positions...why did stubborn Teague decide that after the review was announced, we'd see this "phenomenon"

Why have his defensive tweaks occurred after the review was announced? The entire football world have been highlighting our defensive shambles and multiple goal leaking games for 12 months but the tweaks have occurred in the last two weeks

I hope the review does not get seduced by our last two wins

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I definitely don't hate him and personally like others I hate the idea of changing coaches, just like when we replaced Bolton.
At the time the idea of replacing a rookie coach with another rookie coach in my eyes was madness and as a result I've never been on the "train", but I was looking forward to being proven wrong.
I just think at this point in time if the review comes back and it says he needs more senior support etc, then why don't we just get a more senior coach (and not an ex Collingwood/Essendon** one either). Our window for success is getting smaller by the week before we have to go back to rebuilding again.
Either way, he has until the end of the season to prove me wrong again but I think I'm comfortable in my opinion he needs to go.

Edit: I just re-read your comment. Now I'm not sure if I read it right.

He's used Carlton facilities and VFL to his advantage for 15 games.

We need a point of difference to win flags and attacking ball movement is certainly a very viable one. Can certainly understand peoples frustration - but its not a case he can't coach as he has been doing it for over a decade it's a few things. Trial and error, the right players executing, the right talent in the right positions - it is very all encompassing but putting numbers behind the ball is not the answer to win flags.

Hopefully next season with an average injury list meaning 5-6 players injured at any given time - teams will be chasing our tails four quarters as the challenge is to hold leads.

Adding a layer is a given adding layers is even more evident but have to be the right layers for the squad. It's not going to take 1-2 years to win flags unfortunately. Maybe 4-5 years we have a long way to go.. unless progress continues with our youngsters then can be quicker. I am just postulating but elite skills and ball movement will win us more games than not.

This is a technicality that means little to me, if you're a good coach it shouldn't matter.
We don't have good structures, we don't have game day flexibility or at times ideas to even make changes and we seem to lack on-field leadership which is usually given and nurtured by the coaching dept. No venue is going to fix this, only experience. Something Teague doesn't really have, VFL and assistant jobs can only get you so far. I mean there is a big step up from VFL to AFL so it would be right to assume so would be the coaching.

I agree we need a point of difference but even an attacking plan is not, as you've said the other top teams are doing it and they are doing it a lot better.
And defence is not just putting players behind the ball, it's a mindset that needs to be trained and something we have lacked for a while now.
But yes layers is a given, the problem is Teague really has only proven up until recently we only have 1, play on at all costs.

Injuries and the lack of mature talent in the middle have been a huge issue, but good systems alleviate a lot of this. I couldn't believe how light the Freo midfield was and they still killed us. Cerra is only a slight upgrade on Dow IMO but he has a better structure to play with which gives him more opportunities. And it's a hard no from me on giving up picks for him, I agree with your idea of Touk though.

We need an elite ruck more than anything to help us with clearances.

I can’t argue with that, it’s the most important position in the field IMO.
TDK will be that, just not now.
But none of it will matter unless we have good structures and adaptability, which are coaching issues.