Why do we need a football director for advice if we have elite operators in our football dept?

Just asking for a friend in a ballerina dress who's too weak to ask for himself

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It's obvious I have more experience on QA and reviews in general than Sayers.

Preparation is everything including the selection of the correct commitee panel Lowe reviewed the club two years ago I am sure his input would be helpful again.

Its not whether everything is good or not - its being disruptive and taking the coaches away from their work to appease Sayers ego.

The last review was prior to Russell coming on board.
Russell was signed in October 2018.

Coaches need to improve. If an early Review creates a sense of urgency and improvement, then that's good for them too, because right now, they look likely to be given the boot.

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The whole club needs to improve. Board inclusive with this latest farce.

..and if coaches are given the boot then we go around full circle with a young 10-15 year career coach like we have with Ratten that got butchered on the alter of utopian dogmatism that set the club back 10 years and burnt a favourite son.

So lets say they get the boot and Lyon is appointed and dont play finals in two years while he is in charge?

The club needs to one day stop being a revolving door of head coaches and CEO's - Sayers is a weak leader.

If players keep praising their environment and extending their contracts as they feel they are improving then what's the problem other than blinded impatience?

It's obvious I have more experience on QA and reviews in general than Sayers.

Preparation is everything including the selection of the correct commitee panel Lowe reviewed the club two years ago I am sure his input would be helpful again.

Its not whether everything is good or not - its being disruptive and taking the coaches away from their work to appease Sayers ego.[/quote]

So You consider yourself more qualified to make decisions on reviews than Sayers, former CEO at PWC?
Can you PM a link to your LinkedIn profile? Your resume must be a cracker!

So You consider yourself more qualified to make decisions on reviews than Sayers, former CEO at PWC?
Can you PM a link to your LinkedIn profile? Your resume must be a cracker![/quote]

Considering I worked in a company 20x the size of PwC Luke Sayers isnt all that.

Considering I worked in a company 20x the size of PwC Luke Sayers isnt all that.[/quote]

20 times! Maybe you should be running for the board

Honestly, I think he is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
Some people complain of a jerk reaction. Others would complain that he isn't doing enough!

I think we can agree that something is not working as we intended, given that we have not improved to expectation.
I think we could also agree that we would have expected to be just in or just out of the 8 (Vs 11th or worse...).
AND, even going by opinions on TC, there are many different perspectives on WHAT it is that is not working (Board? Footy Dept? Coaches? Players? Player development? Culture?)

Therefore, I'm not sure why the criticism of a review of this nature.

The criticism that I can understand pertains to timing and also the v public nature of it but to me, that is a debate at the margins. And there are valid arguments on either side.

And Walsh's point about the 'rushed' composition of the review panel - well, I'm not sure that more time would yield a better result. I have no reason to trust this group to deliver or not; and to be honest I'm pretty sceptical. However, at some point we need to be able to trust someone to go about it, and I have no option but to believe that Sayers & Co have similar desire to become a sustainably winning team (although I acknowledge he may have other agendas as well - hopefully, these are in addition rather than in conflict with my goal of a winning team...).

My gut feel is that Sayers has a fair idea of the kind of changes he wants to see, certainly off the field. And I suspect this will include refreshing at least some Board members.

And personally, I think that sooner is better than later. But I accept others may prefer to do it out of season. TomAto. TomAAHto.

20 times! Maybe you should be running for the board[/quote]

No Thanks. But I know a flake when I see one. MLG is an appropriate leader with consummate professionalism you expect from a leader. Cool, Calm and Measured thats why the club recorded the second highest net profit in the league.

Sayers is a bean counter. What is an accountant doing leading the club? He needs to be smacked down and told to do his job and on time.

No Thanks. But I know a flake when I see one. MLG is an appropriate leader with consummate professionalism you expect from a leader. Cool, Calm and Measured thats why the club recorded the second highest net profit in the league.

Sayers is a bean counter. What is an accountant doing leading the club? He needs to be smacked down and told to do his job and on time.[/quote]

Well, MLG has done his time. If not Sayers who do you propose?

Well, MLG has done his time. If not Sayers who do you propose?[/quote]

Anyone but a goddamn accountant. Finding Presidents isnt my job - anyone that is self made in commerce that created jobs like Fitzpatrick I will be happy with.

I don't mind disruptive. In fact, when things are floating along aimlessly (IMHO), disruptive is exactly what we need. The football department needs a shake up. We are making the same mistakes week after week. I'm hoping Teague can turn it around and this review may well find that he is being hamstrung by other members of the football department. Let's find out where the weak link is ASAP and head into 2022 with some momentum.

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I think you will find Sayers is much more than an accountant you obviously have no idea what skills and expertise are required to be running and responsible for a huge multi-disciplinary premier services firm like PWC.

You criticise the ability of someone like Sayers when you have no idea what he does and what skill base and expertise he has and what he achieved at his time at PWC

He is just an accountant - that's it.

PwC is nothing more than a glorified accounting firm with some bells and whistles.

He is not self made, he is just a nerd with numbers. Leadership is alot more than working with nerds with 2 inch thick glasses.

Well if we want to win games of football and still have a chance at playing finals albeit a slight one but still a chance which two bob idiot is happy to disrupt and take away people from their work to stroke its own ego. Could have waited.

You have no idea what you are talking about don’t stray into areas you know nothing about it is embarrassing and embarrassing that you are critical without having any idea what the guy does and what it takes to be a leader at these firms and what skills are required to lead these firms
I don’t know the guy from Adam but respect him for what he has achieved at PWC and in the wider business community
He at least objectively got the skills and smarts to be the president whether he will do a good job we will only be able to judge subsequently but very premature to be potting him in my view

By the way I think your better of sticking to your earlier statement Teague will win us multiple premierships

I have worked with accountants for years, I have led a team of accountants. Sounds like you are an accountant - accountants are not leaders. They are workers.

Always have been - always will be. Sayers is just very good at promoting himself - signs of being a power hungry mental dwarf. I mean if he was serious about leadership with the proper cloth; would he be promoting President Elect on his twitter account if he wasn't egotistical? I smell these clowns from a mile away.

Rise and rise of the Technocrats.

Some are good, some are not as good.

They usually know their stuff as opposed to someone with an MBA and nothing else running a Company.
I've seen plenty of them with MBA's and know their shortfalls. I should know.

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He has no humility - President Elect on twitter? I mean really... how has this goose been on the board for 10 years?

Running a football club is slightly only slightly different to being a CEO for a half-bit accounting firm and being a CEO you still need to answer to the boss.

This clown being the boss of Carlton Football Club with little humility and lots of ego and a dash of panic.

GOD HELP US.