What did you teach at school keogh?

Yes agree too about salary particularly based on low rent journalists guessing what it is
Most of those idiots don’t even understand why we front ended Martins contract and what impact that has on the rest of contract.


Also ironic that we beat 17 other clubs to his signature including GWS who thought they had retained him 6 weeks ago and did not need to give up picks and simply paid a decent salary when we are cashed up and we are criticised .
We get a guy that would be in the top 10 players on a list that is considered one of the best in the AFL .
We get a guy that has been bog in finals and played well in finals and is aged 26 years.
Ridiculous they should be applauding us for astute drafting .
We have finalised this well before the trade period so it enables us to pursue other alternatives in the trade period.
So looks like sour grapes to me

The salary cap is somewhere around 13 million
It’s meant to go up every year till 2022.
Rookies get around $85000
O’Dwyer might have earned $200000 for not playing a game in 2 years

I don’t have an issue in paying players big money but they have got to be worth it
If Cripps is on $700000 plus he is worth every cent even this year. The guy was banged up and is targeted every week. Yet he will probably be in our top 4 in the B and F

The problem with the cap starts when you give 3 year contracts to guys like Plowman and Cuningham
Even the Plowman lovers would agree that his influence on games is minimal
Cuningham just isn’t delivering
Martin for what we are paying him is not a good bang for your buck

If Williams is being offered $900000 a year for 5 years that puts an enormous strain on the cap particularly for the future if COVID reduces it.

With Williams all of a sudden he is the flavour of the month
His career has involved mostly playing in the easiest position on the ground HBF
The guy is a good player. But overrated Has a great finals series in 2019 and now he is a star mid
This year hasn’t been great for him.
He has missed a few games and his stat count is low at around 17 possessions a game.

77 % of his possessions have come in the back half

And now he is going to be a star running mid


He will be targeted by opposition teams if he comes here. And he has to impact games big time to be worth that salary
And he won’t put us into the Finals unless these mids SOS recruited pull their finger out and come on

It’s the big banana theory all over again and
Folks it doesn’t work unless your knocking on the door

What’s that song by Split Enz
History never repeats
Doesn’t apply to Royal Parade

You named a heap but said you'd list 2.
Partington and Fisher. I watched Fisher play a lot of games for the NB's. Hard worker, can kick a goal but not enough tricks. I would have considered him for as rookie spot but he would be a depth player at best. Partington the same.
Colquhuon is the one that interested me early. He can find the ball and had smarts but like Partington, he's small for a midfielder.
All are quality state league players but they're not our future. Like Gibbons. He's probably better than all three but when our team is at it's best, I doubt he'll be getting a regular game.

We are at the time in our development where we need to top up. Like St Kilda did last year and Brisbane the year before. Our KP quality is as good as most. We just need to get more quality into the midfield. Getting off-cuts from the WAFL and SANFL wont go close.

I agree BV.

I’m all for searching the state leagues for rookie selections and late draft picks, but our recruiting approach should not be based on it.

Keogh - thanks for throwing those names up. Fisher is the only one I’ve seen much of. He was a good player in our VFL side, but I must admit I don’t remember seeing anything about him which screamed “pick me”.

For what it’s worth, I don’t associate going after established players via FA as a return to the bad old days or evoking the dreaded ‘messiah complex’. We have done the rebuild hard yards for the last 5 years and developed a core group of good under 24s. Now is the time to exploit the rules and get a good player without giving up draft picks that will net us more young talent.

Awake again
Good to see
What do you think of Williams
Is he worth getting for that price

The problem with the cap starts when you give 3 year contracts to guys like Plowman and Cuningham
Even the Plowman lovers would agree that his influence on games is minimal
Cuningham just isn’t delivering

Have you guys looked at how Williams played this year

Clearly Williams will be on big coin if we pay him more than what the Giants are offering

Front ended back ended put it anyway you like

If he does come to us which looks likely he better have more impact than he has had this year

Martin has not impacted enough for mine on what he is on
Mc Govern well should have known what we were getting. Got that one right didn’t I. Good to see most of you coming to your senses on that one.

And as I understand he is still contracted to 2023 on around 700000 a season

2021 is a massive year for the club
The young mids have to rise to the occasion
Cripps is a free agent and he hasn’t put pen to paper yet for an extension

If we don’t progress I would imagine the lure of returning west would be huge.
And he strikes me as a bloke who would be prepared to take a pay cut for
Success
And to be closer to his family and for his relationship

So the club better get it right
Because if we lose him we are rooted