I'd be very happy with Williams, not sure about Viney, maybe its just that head of his. I'd love Gaff. re Gibbons, I think he is a short-term solution, can't wait til he is back up not best 22.

The two I have fingers crossed for are Kemp and Stocker. But have no idea if they will make it or where they will play.

If Charlie is fit I think we can focus on Mids mid mids and then a mid or two. Hopefully ones that can spread, are defensive and can deliver the ball.

McGovern down back makes sense to me.

I'd be very happy with Williams, not sure about Viney, maybe its just that head of his. I'd love Gaff. re Gibbons, I think he is a short-term solution, can't wait til he is back up not best 22.

The two I have fingers crossed for are Kemp and Stocker. But have no idea if they will make it or where they will play.

If Charlie is fit I think we can focus on Mids mid mids and then a mid or two. Hopefully ones that can spread, are defensive and can deliver the ball.

YES

In the reserves?
Surely not the seniors

Lets look at what he has got, because the list of what he hasn't is too long/

190 cm ... fluctuating weight and speed and effort ...

Ok ... now...

.... whose spot or where would you play him?

You know we are a destination club, and there's more than 20 candidates interested in coming to the new Destination club, especially given they can play with Bettsy, and Crippa, and Charlie and Marchy are back next year with Jack.

B: Docherty Jones Marchbank

HB: Saad Weitering Witherden

7th Defender: Plowman


...nah ...sorry ... no more silver service ... go and get fit, sharpen your sword, find consistent form hope there's some normality in the reserves season next year... Jack has your spot for now as the 3rd tall... are you interested? Hey Simmo might help, he might be running a training academy that doesn't fall under the soft cap...... If not, you still haven't got what it takes. We can't carry players. The Reserves is where reserves players learn their craft.

Blues confirm four list changes

Carlton has informed four players that they will not have their contracts renewed.
By Carlton Media - 1 hr ago

The Carlton Football Club has informed four players that they will not have their contracts renewed for the 2021 season.

Darcy Lang, Hugh Goddard, Ben Silvagni and Finbar O’Dwyer have been told that they will not be retained at the Club beyond 2020.

Lang played 20 games for the Blues across three seasons since arriving at Ikon Park from Geelong during the 2017 NAB AFL Trade Period.

Goddard departs the Club after two years, during which he played two games after being a rookie selection from St Kilda in the 2018 NAB AFL Draft.

O’Dwyer and Silvagni did not make a senior appearance for the Club after being selected at picks No.66 and No.70 respectively in the 2018 NAB AFL Draft.

Carlton Head of Football Brad Lloyd expressed the Club’s best wishes to all four players.

“Darcy, Hugh, Ben and Finbar worked hard on the field and were valued members of the playing group off it during their time at the Club,” Lloyd said.

“We thank each of them for their dedication to Carlton and wish them nothing but the best for the future.”

Blues confirm four list changes

Carlton has informed four players that they will not have their contracts renewed.
By Carlton Media - 1 hr ago

The Carlton Football Club has informed four players that they will not have their contracts renewed for the 2021 season.

Darcy Lang, Hugh Goddard, Ben Silvagni and Finbar O’Dwyer have been told that they will not be retained at the Club beyond 2020.

Lang played 20 games for the Blues across three seasons since arriving at Ikon Park from Geelong during the 2017 NAB AFL Trade Period.

Goddard departs the Club after two years, during which he played two games after being a rookie selection from St Kilda in the 2018 NAB AFL Draft.

O’Dwyer and Silvagni did not make a senior appearance for the Club after being selected at picks No.66 and No.70 respectively in the 2018 NAB AFL Draft.

Carlton Head of Football Brad Lloyd expressed the Club’s best wishes to all four players.

“Darcy, Hugh, Ben and Finbar worked hard on the field and were valued members of the playing group off it during their time at the Club,” Lloyd said.

“We thank each of them for their dedication to Carlton and wish them nothing but the best for the future.”

No surprises there. As I've said elsewhere, I'd retain Macreadie. Hopefully with the next lot of delistings, he isn't moved on.

just got rid of 2 x KP backline depth, so retaining MaCreadie for another year makes sense

No surprises there. As I've said elsewhere, I'd retain Macreadie. Hopefully with the next lot of delistings, he isn't moved on.

Has he shown anything? Put BSOS on the rookie list and delist Macreadie?

In the reserves?
Surely not the seniors

Lets look at what he has got, because the list of what he hasn't is too long/

190 cm ... fluctuating weight and speed and effort ...

Ok ... now...

.... whose spot or where would you play him?

You know we are a destination club, and there's more than 20 candidates interested in coming to the new Destination club, especially given they can play with Bettsy, and Crippa, and Charlie and Marchy are back next year with Jack.

B: Docherty Jones Marchbank

HB: Saad Weitering Witherden

7th Defender: Plowman


...nah ...sorry ... no more silver service ... go and get fit, sharpen your sword, find consistent form hope there's some normality in the reserves season next year... Jack has your spot for now as the 3rd tall... are you interested? Hey Simmo might help, he might be running a training academy that doesn't fall under the soft cap...... If not, you still haven't got what it takes. We can't carry players. The Reserves is where reserves players learn their craft.

I have resigned to the fact he will be at Carlton next year. He can barely get a kick up forward. So many as well try him down back. Or let him rot in the VFL. I don't really care. We are loaded for talls forward and back so makes no diff.