Betts is cooked.

I can't split Simpson and Murphy. The former has lost his run. The latter is hardly lighting it up. He's lucky the midfield cupboard is bare.

Name a date Bondi and we will organise something

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We need Casboult as a second ruck, C Curnow takes McGoverns position.
Silvagni takes Gibbins position and he moves to the midfield

What exactly does Murphy do that sets a bad example?

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Aside from not tackling?

H's a member of the waxing club.
Runs to a position of no pressure but no territorial gain to demand a pass by foot.
Mucks up a 25 metre pass where he was under no pressure at all by picking out the opposition player between two Blues players.
Kicks the footy a netre in front of the feet of a leading player.
Misses relatively easy goals.

That's not to say he doesn't do a lot of good things as well but that wasn't the question.

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Well what a surprise. A bad loss and as usual, the negative viruses infect the site.

Suddenly Shane McAdam is Leigh Matthews and Jack Martin is a bust.
Yet if anyone wants to look at the facts, Jack Martins performance this year has been far superior to McAdams. More games played, more than 50% increase on possessions per game, better disposal efficiency, plays midfield so he gets clearances, more marks per game, more inside 50's, more score involvements, more pressure, same amount of goals per game (even though he also plays midfield), more metres gained etc etc etc.

And Hawthorn are suddenly the beacon on how to exit their older players (Yet they were running around wth about 10 players 30 or older this year).

Yes it was a shit loss and yes mistakes have been made but the reaction from some of the sooks on here has been embarrassing. It's like looking at a 5 year old who didn't get his bike for Christmas. Try looking at the reality instead of swallowing the opinions pushed by those with agendas. Funnily enough, they're the same posters who will tell you that you're the one that's uninformed.
Do your own research before joining the pile on. The list requires free agent additions but it isn't the bust we're hearing here. It just needs to be utilised to its strength. I have no doubt we'll play finals next year if we can nail the free agent and trade acquisitions required.

A percentage in excess of 95, contending for finals with 2 games to go. Has everyone suddenly forgotten where we were before this season?

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Teague's win loss ratio is worse this year than last year, considerably so. Makes a mockery of your argument we have improved.

You're probably closer to the pin.

My best 22 for next year has Casboult in it, and JSOS.
Levi has been out of form for a while.
His age and his form seems to be a Murphy like trend downhill.
Has me concerned

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That has been debated ad nauseum for the last 3 years.
His form is hardly consistent imo, especially this year.

On the flip side, other than him taking the battering ahead of exposing the young, what else has he to offer in 2021?
Problem with that is he's not good defensively, and doesn't look for contact...imo

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High BV
Good to see you back
Mc Adam would have been handy wouldn’t he
And those 2 picks in the 20 s might help the midfield depth which is sadly lacking.
Let’s focus on for a minute on our opposition . The main reason Adelaide have been terrible is that their midfield has been missing most of the year. So Nicks through necessity put Laird in there. He has been a revelation. I’ve advocated to try Doc in there. Anyway with the Crouch brothers back and Sloane they have played some solid footy. Add Sholl who was a pick 64 a and their mids slaughtered us when it truly mattered.
Silvangi had 5 drafts and trade periods.Ed Curnow was at the club before he arrived. He is at the moment our second best mid by the length of the Flemington straight.
That’s the issue Austin must address. Our midfield is shit.

On McAdam and Martin comparison it’s flawed because they play different roles. McAdam is a permanent forward. Come on what did you think. He would be a better fit than Betts right now.
I like McAdam. Terrific hands smart but the best thing he plays for keeps. 100% effort.
Unlike money bags.

I said this club was in trouble when after it’s worst ever year it chased Shiel around in a jet. Thank god we didn’t get him. So SoS gets Mc Govern because we are a destination club.
No @#$%&! idea.
No lessons learnt from the past
I doubt he and Brodie new who Mc Adam was.
Everyone knows who Martin is.
That’s my point. The clubs recruiting is shallow lacks innovative thinking .
Just go out and get the big banana because where the best and we don’t make mistakes
Himmelberg pick 51 from NEFL
Sholl pick 64
OBrien rookie pick
Mc Adam from the SANFL
Pretty easy to get a job when your a club legend and a mate of the Pres

I’ll cut SOS some slack from 2019
Let’s hope Honey Philp Phillips Ramsay Kemp turn out good
I like Cottrell. Had some mongrel in him
Teague must give these blokes every opportunity next year.
And not gift games to blokes on big contracts he likes but they don’t deliver
Over to you

That will be debated here and in the media all summer, especially if we lose against the Lions.

I said before the season I will look at the percentage as an indicator of our progress.
Percentage means nothing if we don't win the same or more games this year, and we are on par. So percentage is an indicator.

As for last year's wins, it seemed obvious to everyone, Teague improved the team.
But its not all clear cut when we define improvement.

Last year under Teague, the oldies replaced the kids in the middle, and we won more games.
This year Teague continued to back the oldies and that winning form, let alone leadership, hasn't been replicated, and has attracted criticism, imo cost the team, and the development of the kids.
The kids are still young (20-23) and next year should be their break through year.

Imo that improvement of the the developing years will not happen if Teague continues to play favourites and players not in form just because he believes. We need decisions being made by facts not gut feel.

I'm sick of carrying the likes of McGovern and Murphy TBH. They should have been dropped a couple of times and that has cost them and the team.

I love the ladder that disregards the worst quarter from every game and shows us on top of the ladder. That supports the percentage argument, and that we are not far off.

The Hawthorn game is the one that worried me most. Clarkson closed down Teague's modus operandi and Teague didn't respond. That's a worry. Opponents saw that.

As Hinkley says [Teague] deserves everything he gets. Hopefully this year was a huge learning for the first year coach.

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We are a good contested ball team .
But we lack polish
We do not move the ball with much fluency
Eventually in games the dam wall will break
Our defensive running is non existent for periods because the type of game we play is energy sapping and we have too many plodders like Cripps Setterfield and Curnow
Murphy and Martin don’t work hard enough
We desperately need hard runners who work both ways
I was pissed that Cottrell was dropped.
Keep playing him because he can run all day.

Paddycripps?
Have the courage to post under your original username so people can see who they're actually dealing with.
Forget Teagues win/loss ratio. You're picking and choosing what suits your argument.
Last year, 16th on the ladder. This year, 12th. Significantly improved percentage.
That's it.

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Nice try but I'm not giving you my opinion. I'm giving you the facts.
Martin, more ball, more tackles, higher pressure rating. They're not my opinion. They're the facts.
You on the other hand offer uninformed opinion. I'm just highlighting it so other posters don't get sucked in by it.



Selective choices again. You bag the club for not looking at the state league players like McAdam. The year McAdam was picked up, we got a state league player. You might of heard of him? Michael Gibbons. By most measures a far better selection than Shane McAdam yet you don't make the comparison where it's valid. Why not. Because it doesn't suit your agenda?

Look at the data instead of the bias. That's the real reflection of what's happening.

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Interesting that you view the Crows playing a midfield quartet of M Crouch, B Crouch, Sloane and Laird as a good thing. I’ve read ad nauseam on here, not necessarily from you Keogh, that playing experienced players through the middle is to the detriment of young players?
Scholl and Schoenberg seemed to be able to find the footy and play on the periphery of their experienced teammates. Maybe Dow, O’Brien etc should watch and see how they did it.

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Maybe Teague should have given more midfield minutes to SPS, Fisher, Dow (but for injury), O’Brien this year.




Also wondering if Lachlan Scholl was ever invited to the Peter Dean Father/Son Academy, understand that Lachlan would not have qualified as a father/son pick because his dad never played enough games - but the point is we could have drafted him - was he even on our radar?

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We must build up our midfield over the off-season and pre-season in preparation for next year.

Ed Curnow is currently our 2nd or 3rd best midfielder. I’m a massive Ed fan - runs hard, gives his all, wins his own ball and can tag the oppositions best player. However, a battler (in the best way) with his skill set shouldn’t be our 2nd or 3rd best midfielder - he should be 5th or 6th in line.

Austin needs to recruit a midfielder from another club that is ready to perform straight away. I’m keen on Williams and would play him through the middle for some speed and skill. Is anyone else available?

Teague, Power, the dev coaches and Russell need to build at least one of our youngsters into a quality AFL midfielder. We need to bring through at least one of Cunners, SPS, Fisher, Dow, Stocker, Kemp etc as a quality midfielder. Most of these guys haven’t gone through the middle all year so it’s going to be a tough task but all were drafted as midfielders. If none of these guys can come on as midfielders, we’re going to be in some strife unless Austin somehow finds multiple quality midfielders from other clubs. Of our young midfielders, Walsh is a star and Setters is tracking well, but that’s not close to enough.

Until we bolster this midfield I suspect we’re really going to battle to progress up the ladder. The best teams run 6-8 deep in there and have multiple A graders. We’re goinng at about 4-5 deep with a couple of guys on the wrong side of 30 (Ed and Murph). Wer’re competing against West Coast, Richmond, Collingwood and Geelong. Our midfield isn’t even remotely close to that standard. It needs to get there if we want 17.