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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:47 pm 
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Not once did I see in the 2nd half Dow, Fisher, SPS, Martin or anyone else apart from the same 4 in the middle. It makes me sick.
WE HAVE OFFICIALLY KILLED SPS .
Why play Dow as your HF you might as well play Cunningham
WHAT IS TEAGUE DOING????
We are killing our young onball talent coz they no longer play like they did last season.
When David took over he moved players during games NOW its the total opposite.
Just exactly how many times in the 2nd half did we attend the centre bounce.
3 times in the 2nd quarter
5 times in the last.
You keep banging on about this but it is irrelevant.
Once the ball is bounced they are basically all midfielders .
Centre clearance were 6 to 7 all game.
These blokes you say Teague is killing are killing themselves by not running hard enough and presenting.
Look at Walsh he runs harder than anyone and he gets the ball.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:47 pm 
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Mentally weak


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:47 pm 
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The story of this century for us has been a complete lack of leadership or mental resilience.

How do you weed this out over a preseason? The clock is ticking...


Must be addressed. Too many sacred cows?


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Can anyone here picture any of our leaders (players or coaches) putting the fear of God into the team afterwards? Tell them that this is bullshit and they have to take some @#$%&! responsibility?

When I picture our changerooms after a match like that I picture dead silence, broken occasionally by one of our senior guys saying "gotta be better than that boys" or "we'll be back next week."

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:49 pm 
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Can anyone here picture any of our leaders (players or coaches) putting the fear of God into the team afterwards? Tell them that this is bullshit and they have to take some @#$%&! responsibility?

When I picture our changerooms after a match like that I picture dead silence, broken occasionally by one of our senior guys saying "gotta be better than that boys" or "we'll be back next week."



the co captains are probably waiting for each other to do it.

cripps is on one leg, simpson and murphy are nil impact. docherty aside, who else is there?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:50 pm 
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This rebuild may have to go back to square one

The never ending rebuild continued

Our young players have not developed and still too reliant on footballers past their peak years

Tonight sums up our last twenty years. Pathetic.


Not quite! We had finals handed to us at 3/4 time of consecutive games and pissed it down the drain. When you're talking finals something is going alot better but, geez, we have to work out why we shit the bed the last 2 last qtrs. Bed shitting is the only reason we aren't playing finals this year.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:50 pm 
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Midfield depth is non existent
Setterfield keep pumping him up
Martin effort was better kicking terrible
Mc Kay needs to develop a kicking routine
Dow pathetic no O’Brien no Kennedy 2018 could be the draft of disaster
Why play Cripps clearly injured
Betts useless
SPS doesn’t deserve a game

Walsh was great
Weitering good
Polson actually did ok

Mc Govern yep keep pumping him up. It could become the worse trade ever.
But hey keep pumping him up


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:52 pm 
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Why are people angry and surprised?
We were never going to win that game. In a game where the opposition scores two goals for three quarters, you make sure they can't kick three to win the game in the last.
How?
Well for a start you drop back an extra man behind the footy so the ball can't get out the back, which it did three times.
I blame Teague for the loss. He is all structure and no match day flexibility. Cameron altered his team structure TWICE during the game to turn things around and Teague sat and watched like hr did last week. Teams get a run on because he has no idea how to put the brakes on, No idea.

Have a look at the centre bounces 75% of the time.
Cripps, Murphy, Ed.
Cripps Murphy, Ed
Cripps Murphy Ed.

Cripps couldn't get near it,
Murphy did OK again but turned it over three times early in the third.
Ed got poleaxed and was running around like a headless chook for a quarter and half. Meanwhile we have SPS rotting away in defence, Martin flashing in and out of the game, Polson and Cottrell who are hard bodies, Eddie who kept falling over at the ctitical moment and Setterfield who we know is a clearance player. Nothing,
Cripps, Murphy and Ed.

In the last three weeks, McKay has kicked something like 3-8. His hands were on tonight again but he has NFI about how to take a set shot.

The team is mentally shot. Has to be,
The pervading thought after the opposition kick a couple on the trot must now be,
'Here we go again.'
It certainly is with the supporters and commentators.

I haven't seen the presser but I can almost here it.

"We didn't take our opportunities when they came late in the game.
W wanted to play our way but in the end they got on top in the contested possessions and clearances.
We came out expecting to win nut just couldn't get the job done."


Sydney next up with their new game style running the footy. They will beat us for run and carry. We stopped that after the Bulldogs game. It was too successful. Run and carry, use the corridor and hit up a leading forward. It all looked so promising compared to the chippy chippy down the boundary and then bomb it long to (Haynes) and hope for a spill. That's the Malthuose formula from the last Collingwood premiership. Not even Collingwood still does it. Bolts did it after MM brought it over. Now Teague has fallen for it.

I watched the Collingwood game until I couldn't sand it anyy longer and the TV was in danger of having a coffee mug thrown at it. I watched this game impassively tonight waiting for the inevitable collapse.
The team is soft.
The club is a shell of its former self on field but the board is happy because we are heading towards being debt free.
I am just about done after supporting them since I was eleven, 59 years ago. It's almost like the day you realise your marriage is over.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:52 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
Can anyone here picture any of our leaders (players or coaches) putting the fear of God into the team afterwards? Tell them that this is bullshit and they have to take some @#$%&! responsibility?

When I picture our changerooms after a match like that I picture dead silence, broken occasionally by one of our senior guys saying "gotta be better than that boys" or "we'll be back next week."


Didn't Cripps say after the GC game "we are back" we are back where we have been for the last 20 years.

Gee I wish we could get Hodge to the club as a coach.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:52 pm 
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We dont have the cattle for that elite forward 50 connection hence chasing after Papley and Zac.

I think the aggressive press is good we are getting plenty of looks and getting it in forward 50 just dont have the cattle with the appropriate footskills and decision making.

Eddie is well and truly cooked. Leaving Cunners and Bam Bam out probably cost us. But thats fine I think Polsen had his best game for the club which is a good sign for the future.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:53 pm 
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Beijing Blue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Weitering is a keeper.

So is Walsh.

Fish goes alright.

McGovern would've been handy

Curnow is a warrior

We need speed

Must have been a late withdrawal.... :roll:


We got the wrong McGovern :banghead:

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Beijing Blue wrote:
Do we have people leading our club who know what they are doing? The only person that shines like a beacon is Russell.



We're getting overrun in second halves though. And Cripps looks buggered & Mcgovern shouldn't have played.

My Hawks mate (who hates Carlton & never has a good word to say about us) said Russell was as big a recruit for us as Judd. I'm not seeing it

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If we see Betts and Simpson in 2021 we've definitely lost the plot

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:53 pm 
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How many grubber kicks from supposed AFL players when we’re all over them. Missed shots, dropped marks.

We lose the same way every week. Leaders failing us badly, although in Crippa’s defence he’s been playing injured all year.

We need to look at trade bait to get guys like Papley and SPS would be first on my list. Pathetic is giving him too much credit.


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Blue4ever wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
Can anyone here picture any of our leaders (players or coaches) putting the fear of God into the team afterwards? Tell them that this is bullshit and they have to take some @#$%&! responsibility?

When I picture our changerooms after a match like that I picture dead silence, broken occasionally by one of our senior guys saying "gotta be better than that boys" or "we'll be back next week."


Didn't Cripps say after the GC game "we are back" we are back where we have been for the last 20 years.

Gee I wish we could get Hodge to the club as a coach.

It didn't take Nostradamus to predict the past two weeks after seeing that.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:54 pm 
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Blue4ever wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
DesEnglish wrote:
Just zero leadership when it counts. Who stands up when the time comes?

One captain next year, stop the easy way out


Yep ! said so at the start of the season...............a weak non decision.Neither your elbow nor your arsehole...............in fact i would go further.......it would be Captain,Vice Captain,Deputy Vice Captain thats it............no leadership group coz there aint any leaders


A fit Cripps is a leader, however he is screwed at the moment and I cant believe the cub is so stupid by playing him.

The only leader I see at the moment is Walsh, this kid busts his arse for this club.


Weitering has a dip.

We need a hard physical presence who’ll cop a week to make a point. We’re too nice, wonder what they’d want for Greene


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:54 pm 
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kingkerna wrote:
I think everyone's covered this for me already.

I noticed tonight that the giants were physical at every contest. That's why the free kick count was in our favour.

The thing is though eventually they'll let some go and you'll get away with it. We are too nice, we need big strong bodies, bashing and crashing. Give away the frees, hurt the opposition, wear them down then knock them out.

Mackay joking about kicking straight the other week really hurts now. I get the feeling that he'll be 27 and we will still be talking about potential

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Gutless
Hopeless
Brainless
Why do we bother - the players certainly dont effung care..they all need effing whack around the ears after that
Why do we effing bother?

Why don't you answer your effing phone at half time?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:57 pm 
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Beijing Blue wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Weitering is a keeper.

So is Walsh.

Fish goes alright.

McGovern would've been handy

Curnow is a warrior

We need speed

Must have been a late withdrawal.... :roll:


Thanks.

I couldn't remember seeing him.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:58 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Weitering is a keeper.

So is Walsh.

Fish goes alright.

McGovern would've been handy

Curnow is a warrior

We need speed

We have speed.
It's running around in the practice matches.
And why do we need speed to play chippy chippy down the line anyway?
Speed is what you need when you play daring footy and run to break the lines.
Sydney will show us how to do that next game.

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