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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:18 pm 
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Seasons cooked. It’s all about next year and beyond. Play the kids. Keep TDK in. Play him over Pittonet if Harry comes back. He’s the future. Bring in Dow, let’s get a look at Honey, hopefully Stocker is back soon. We need to keep bringing through youth


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Freo and GC next 2. Very winnable. Actually, have to be won.


Yeah but not doing any damage this season. It’s still all about development. Too many missed opportunities already


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:20 pm 
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Heard the half time score when leaving my sons footy. Got home to watch from the middle of the third onwards.

Wish I didn’t bother :mad:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:21 pm 
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I enjoyed Marc with a C taking advantage free kick from a young blokes efforts, shitting his pants, handballing to a bloke under pressure, getting pushed off a tackle like the pocket lint he is, and giving away a goal in that run of 5. Leadership.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:23 pm 
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We were never going to win it.
Natanui is a star, even without a free against for htb, which he did at least three times.
The umpires have been shit all year. Ths was just another confusing game for everybody, including the commentators.
We had some big positives out of the game.
TDK should play every week from now on. His timing was a bit out but he showed plenty. There is room for him and Pitto. One of McGovern or Harry always seems to be missing anyway.
Cottrell looks like he will be OK when he gets the feel of it.
Kennedy has great hands.
Fisher back in the team even though he only had a few touches made them count.
Jones was dominant apart from on mistake.

I hope Cripps is either exhausted or injured. I am convinced his weight loss has affected his stamina and his ability to break free. I certainly hope he hasn't checked out.
If Teague keeps playing SPS in the back half he is blind or stubborn. The kid isn't an inside or naturally defensive player and tonight showed why again. He gets tackled too easily looking for an option and if he gets pinged, it's a scoring opportunity. He is a gifted player but his gifts relate to time and space.
Levi has been off target for about three weeks now. That first shot was as bad as ever he has been.
We are a better team with Harry in, even if he gets most of his marks in the back half. Levi was swamped every time we went to him, which was every long bomb.

I expected to lose. I didn't expect to be pissed off with the second half effort.
The tactic of bombing it long is not working. WCE takes more marks than any other team so challenging them to a marking competition was not very sensible or original.
We played one and a half quarters of footy before collapsing in the usual fashion. It's bloody obvious that we zone up too high in defence and are susceptible to a team running the ball through the ground and scoring out the back.

Teams like WCE and Collingwood that play chippy chippy in defence waiting for the zone to break down are all very well but I'm guessing there were at least ten marks paid to WCE tonight that went ten - 12 metres. The umpires are beyond criticism but this is one of the easiest things for them to sort out and they are incapable of it.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:24 pm 
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2 more pre-seasons to be a legit side.

TDK, unless injured should play out the season.

alot we did right, a few things we did wrong .. i honestly think, the umpires had a huge impact on the result.



Would have been good if he’d been played in the ruck during the third quarter too

Agree. They well and truly dominated the centre to the point that it seemed we had nobody in there the moment Pitto went back into the ruck


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:25 pm 
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Heavs wrote:
I enjoyed Marc with a C taking advantage free kick from a young blokes efforts, shitting his pants, handballing to a bloke under pressure, getting pushed off a tackle like the pocket lint he is, and giving away a goal in that run of 5. Leadership.


Others won't hear of it but plenty of examples today of what posters have written about MM all season. Highlighted text says what has been happening all year. Like the pocket lint part.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:27 pm 
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Seasons cooked. It’s all about next year and beyond. Play the kids. Keep TDK in. Play him over Pittonet if Harry comes back. He’s the future. Bring in Dow, let’s get a look at Honey, hopefully Stocker is back soon. We need to keep bringing through youth


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Freo and GC next 2. Very winnable. Actually, have to be won.


Yeah but not doing any damage this season. It’s still all about development. Too many missed opportunities already


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:27 pm 
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It's a disappointing result from what was a pretty good effort. Injuries starting to really tell now. I thought Casboult battled manfully without any real support. There's a few worries that are starting to show up week after week. Betts looks like he could use a rest. As someone else pointed out goalless for the last 3 games 1 goal before that. Having little impact right now. And Crippa. I just don't know what to make of him. Is he cooked? Is he injured? I feel like he's having his worst year since his debut year which is a big concern. Time for the likes of Dow, O'Brien, Stocker (when he comes back) and any other kid who can run through the midfield to get some game time.

Brayshaw and Cerra have come on leaps and bounds this year and the big step happened when Fyfe was out. Time we find out about these kids. There's decisions that need to be made in the not too distant future and by the sounds of it, a lot less room on the list

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:27 pm 
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Pros:
Very good first half.
Effort was there all day, even when they got away from us.
Good to see Fish back - clean and skilful which we’ve missed. Must play the rest of the year.
TDK showed there’s a lot to work with - just needs some time at the level to adjust to the pace and physicality.
Cottrell had a go and again showed enough to persist with.
Jones very good bounce back after poor game last week.

Cons:
Another failure to stop momentum in that third quarter.
Midfield beaten again. Not surprising against IMO the best midfield in the comp. Need to find another mature A grade mid - Kelly, Wines, Zac Williams can do it too.
Martin injury - not sure the severity but presumably missed games.
Really ruing the Melbourne and Hawthorn failures. If we’d won just one, then we’d be 5-5 and in it up to our eyeballs. Instead, we’re 4-6 and no chance of finals.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:27 pm 
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Heavs wrote:
I enjoyed Marc with a C taking advantage free kick from a young blokes efforts, shitting his pants, handballing to a bloke under pressure, getting pushed off a tackle like the pocket lint he is, and giving away a goal in that run of 5. Leadership.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:28 pm 
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Beijing Blue wrote:
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I enjoyed Marc with a C taking advantage free kick from a young blokes efforts, shitting his pants, handballing to a bloke under pressure, getting pushed off a tackle like the pocket lint he is, and giving away a goal in that run of 5. Leadership.


Others won't hear of it but plenty of examples today of what posters have written about MM all season. Highlighted text says what has been happening all year. Like the pocket lint part.


Yeah but he had 23 touches they'll say...
Well 14 were handballs, only 8 contested and he had the least amount of metres gained by any midfielder on the ground.
Cripps spent most of the first half at full forward and had more metres gained.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:29 pm 
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How many times has 30pt shifts cost us. We're not far off, just stuff like that needs to be sorted.


+1

Yes, the umpires can cost goals in individual circumstances, but there's way too many examples of us fading in patches and allowing our opponents to pile on scores in a hurry.

Our effort, generally, is hard to fault and at times today it was exceptional.

We also need to be more effective in our F50. Accept that some of our best fwds were out today, however we just have to convert on the scoreboard when we have the run of play.

But, man, those fade outs. They hurt us more than anything.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:29 pm 
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One of SPS's better games, for sure!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:30 pm 
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Did a lot right but couldn’t score in second half. Missing most of our first choice fwd line. Umpiring as bad as I’ve seen. But they were better than us after half way thru 3rd and we couldn’t respond.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:30 pm 
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Proud of our efforts. As coach Teague needs to come up witth some tactic to stop teams from kicking quick goals in a run on. It seems to be a growing trend in our losses. The other alternative is just to say we're too young and not good enough.

I think Pittonet is going ok but the Eagles run came when he came back on the ground and into the ruck. TdK had been competing better but he didn't ruck the whole third quarter.
That's on Teague.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:31 pm 
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Strategy was good, smalls around the forward, but we were on the back foot when the rain didn't come and our crumbers weren't getting back as quickly. Too many defensive marks started happening.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:31 pm 
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rhino27 wrote:
AGRO wrote:
ScottSaunders2 wrote:
2 more pre-seasons to be a legit side.

TDK, unless injured should play out the season.

alot we did right, a few things we did wrong .. i honestly think, the umpires had a huge impact on the result.



Would have been good if he’d been played in the ruck during the third quarter too

Agree. They well and truly dominated the centre to the point that it seemed we had nobody in there the moment Pitto went back into the ruck


I guess the theory was TdK is a better fwd option than Pitto and it seems Teague wants a tall fwd line.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:32 pm 
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deano35 wrote:
Beijing Blue wrote:
Heavs wrote:
I enjoyed Marc with a C taking advantage free kick from a young blokes efforts, shitting his pants, handballing to a bloke under pressure, getting pushed off a tackle like the pocket lint he is, and giving away a goal in that run of 5. Leadership.


Others won't hear of it but plenty of examples today of what posters have written about MM all season. Highlighted text says what has been happening all year. Like the pocket lint part.


Yeah but he had 23 touches they'll say...
Well 14 were handballs, only 8 contested and he had the least amount of metres gained by any midfielder on the ground.
Cripps spent most of the first half at full forward and had more metres gained.
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If you want compare Murph and Cripps based on kick to handball ratio, or metres gained over the past couple of years, would reckon Murph would be a long way in front.

Note. This is not me bagging Cripps.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:32 pm 
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I've got West Coast top 2. In the 3rd they were just able to take it up a level like the good sides can, & we couldn't keep up.


I wasn't expecting to win but I really want to see the players gutted after another loss. Cripps Murphy Simpson were all smiles with the WCE after the game. I understand these are difficult times & we're all about being positive and everything but seriously why can't they just man up & sulk?? :banghead:

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