I'm guessing Setterfield as the 7th Defender starts on the field on a wing or HF but plays defensive wing?
He did alright at HBF a couple of games last year. Good idea.

Newnes has had 20 possessions in 2 rounds of footy. He's not an accumulator, but I expect the MC to go with him.
Maybe he's been playing the 7th defender? I cant tell on the screen. He didn't make his presence felt against Dees imo.

Tell me, what do you think Murphy will be like inside the coal face of the midfield vs Selwood Danger Menegola/ Duncan?
Do you think he will lay a tackle? Put some physical pressure on them? Get his own ball? What do you expect from him in the midfield. Curious/

I think Murphy and the team did better when he went to the wing. He only came in to the middle for a chop out on a few occasions in the 2nd half and took Brayshaw, although there was one time he had Petracca again. Thankfully Petracca was spent by thern.


I want to see Jack Silvagni in the middle with Cripps to use their weight and fight to win the ball whilst Ed hard tags Selwood.
Hopefully Murphy and Walsh can race in from the wings to create the outside connection.

I understand your position on Harry. He doesn't look to be in form, but you've dropped our most in form KPF Levi ???

I think the reason Ptto is selected is to have the luxury of Levi as our 'in form' target up forward. IMO Levi should play closer to goals and Harry should play further up the ground as a lead up player. He did OK leading up on the rare occasions he did. Might be a fitness thing.

We have to go to Kardinia with an aggressive winning mentality, and hopefully the MC gets their positioning right this time from the outset.

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We usually start a 7th defender on the bench and he comes on when one of our running backs rotates. Setterfield can fill that role.
I'm not sure what you mean that I've dropped Levi. He's at CHF in my team and is probably our most important forward.
Murphy had 24 disposals, 4 clearances, nearly 500 metres gained and 5 score involvements. Yes his lack of physicality is frustrating but he'd still one of our better midfielders until someone else comes along and takes his spot.

As for Newnes, he went back and filled Newmans role. Just because he didn't win a lot of ball doesn't mean he wasn't a solid contributor. He's one of the rare players that can play a number of roles well for us.
I'm a fan of Jack Silvagni but he isn't a ball winner in the middle. When he's played there in the VFL he's reactive and struggles the read the ball off the ruckman. He's a tagger at best in the middle. With him and Cripps in the middle, we'd be too slow IMO.
As I said elsewhere, I'd give Newnes and Martin more time in the midfield rotation. Both have a go and both have leg speed.

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-26 metres, good lord. Like I said, no run, flair or creativity.

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Glad footy world is getting behind Eddie and deservedly so but Im afraid that this will divert focus from continuing ineptitude of our team and let them off the hook

Did Kennedy play in the scratch match? I would consider him if he's in form.

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Philp might be too young to expose him to the big boys, but I'd love to let him loose.

We arent that far off. One point

Good onya

Go Blues

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The thing for me that sums up this side atm , is our best and most intensive tackler is a guy who is lucky to weigh 80 kg, Jack Martin. We have gorillas like Harry McKay, Gov, Weiters ect and yet Jack is regarded as our top tackler. ( a comment made by the players themselves pre season ). As others have said , we are to nice and lack aggression ( within the rules of course ). This must change and quickly .

I am not an expert as most on TC are so I can only give my hope on selections.


JSOS for sure. Then some or all or of Stocker, Philp, Williiamson, and Owies. Maybe Dow and O'Brien.


We literally have nothing to lose except the game by potentially 12 goals rather than maybe 6. Big deal, we get to see what the juniors can do.


We already know what the seniors can or rather cannot do.

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Sadly this is soooo spot on......

Go Blues

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I'd actually start JSOS in the guts, even for 5 mins. if there's one thing that's certain, he'll crack in and put his body on the line.

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I have avoided commenting since the Melbourne debacle because I am now of the opinion our season is done and dusted. We will finish where we are atm, 16th, having watched GCS and Melbourne pass us by.

This post of BV's is a reflection of what I am thinking against Geelong BUT I can't see the MC having the balls to do it.

Geelong's forward structure revolved around their smalls on the weekend. Hawkins and Ragatalea (sp) seem to have not done much except compete. We have Jones and Weitering to man them up. After that, we need to look at who is available. A lot of teams are now following the trend of having small forwards and mids score the bulk of their goals. We have to adapt to that. My prediction that Hunt and Pickett would get hold of us last weekend was thwarted only by the absence of Pickett.
Oh and the vision of Cripps shouldering Setterfield (who was running for him to receive the handball) out of the way in the corridor so he could go wide and look for Murphy was nothing more than an example of what I was referring to last week when I said the leadership group play waxing.
So.
Newman is out for the season. We need a creative, quick half back and for mine that has to be Williamson. I am concerned they will put Goddard in.
I am happy for Plowman to stay and I don't even care if he doesn't run down the ground. We tried that in Rd 1 and Richmond scored about five of their goals giving it to someone out the back because we were unable to get back after a turnover.
Doc stays and Simmo, who despite his age is still one of our hardest runners and generally uses the footy pretty well. I don't agree he is a coaster.
That leaves us SPS, who looks hopelessly out of place on the backline, especially when he is under pressure. He is not naturally a defensive player so IMO, he should go to the wing. His place could be taken by someone who gains yards. That is Martin. He has the leg speed to go with their small forwards and also to run away from them when he gets the footy. Yarran with attitude.
The centreline then reads Setterfield, Cripps SPS/Newnes.
At CHF we should have someone mobile and aggressive, good overhead and can hoof it. To me that is still Levi. Harry is lazy and needs to run at the footy to get his hands on the ball. He won't tackle or chase and can't kick for goal to save his life because his approach to set shots is s reflection of his approach to the game, which is that he has always been the biggest kid in the team and he will just mark it and kick it. I am all for dropping him this week and giving one of Ben Silvagni or TDK a go at FF. At least they will be hungry and ready to give it a shot. Harry needs a wake up call. He could be anything but as a FF he is next to useless atm. Taking marks at HBF shouldn't be his job. As one commentator put it last weekend,

"Harry marks the ball.... kicks long to where Harry should be taking the mark."

Of course they won't drop Harry. He's the great white hope alongside Charlie. He knows that. He just has to turn up for training to get picked to play.

Lang goes for Jack and Fisher might be available. I like Setterfield but he might be in danger he has the skills but still doesn't get it enough. McGovern had a good second half of the game when he got mobile but he needs to lift as well. Cunningham needs to find it more but at least he covers the ground at pace when he has it.

The Geelong ground has no wings, which is why Geelong wins there all the time. They play straight down the middle using precision and leg speed. Unless we have a similar plan, we will have our biggest loss for the season this week and 67,000 members will ask themselves why they bother.

My guess is that we will come out, try the usual chippy chippy bullshit down the wings to a contest, turn the footy over and watch their mids tear us a new one down the corridor, which we rarely defend, because we are unaware of its existence until quarter or half time. Then the penny will drop but Geelong is NOT Melbourne and they won't fold.

If plan A is to play chippy chippy and wait until we have our backs to the wall and then play a high intensity game of sharing the footy and being daring, it is not working. We need to start playing daring footy BEFORE the game is all but lost.

I'm almost done getting up at 1:00 a.m. to watch them serve up what they have been doing for so long. If they put in as much effort as I (and you lot) do as a supporter, we'd be well up the ladder by now.

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scratch match reports from CFC. these sound like the 4 that impressed.

4. Lochie O'Brien

Lochie O’Brien found a lot of the ball and played across a wing and also through the midfield as well. It was good to see him get a lot of the ball on a ground where there was space: we expected him to run really well and he did that.

13. Liam Stocker

’Stock’ was good. He went through the midfield for the majority of the day: he probably played more midfield minutes than anyone. He had quite a few strong clearances and some examples of some manic pressure on the inside, which was good.

31. Tom Williamson

‘Willo’ was one of our better players. He found a lot of the ball and used it reasonably well, which was great along with his dash. He’s one that has improved a lot over the summer and has put a solid amount of work in. It was great for him to get through the game: he played half back and shot through the wing, while he also got some midfield minutes in the last quarter.

34. Sam Philp

Sam Philp was fantastic as well with his pressure — I think he had the most tackles of anyone on the ground. He had seven tackles which, in a 14-on-14 game with less game time, is not bad going for someone who was focussing on his forward pressure. He was really good.


also:

36. Josh Honey

As a first-year player, his good is as good as anyone. He’s got some weapons that others don’t and he showed that at times. The extra space on the ground helped that: he was fantastic. He played a combination of midfield and forward.

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This could be a real turning point game for the club.

Win this, stand out in the middle afterwards singing the song.

I still have hope.

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I like 80% of these players, but don’t forget there was only 14 a side so there was PLENTY of SPACE on the ground at the time.

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Surely Willo comes in for Newman and if we need midfield grunt stocker comes in and JSOS for Lang

Despite Saints winning the lottery with their 5 imports in one trade period in 2019 (something the Blues List Managers could only dream of), I think SOS struck GOLD in the draft with these 5. Ramsay looks OK too. Philips icked 2 classy goals on the wide open spaces created by only 14 per side on the field.

I really want Stocker, Philp and Honey to be considered. Willo is a n brainer.

If only Harry could play with some intensity, purpose, dare and aggression to win the ball and take goal kicking serious

We have the personnel. We just need to select them when they in form, and not gift them games.

It is time to unleash the Stocker for midfield time or Philp for speed. For Kardinia, the former. Just thoughts

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To give the kids a go it must be asked who makes way for them.

Newman is injured, Lang offers nothing and Murphy I have always been a supporter of but is it time to make room for a youngster. ( Probably will not happen. )

So for these 3

JSOS, Stocker, and Philp. A bit of weight to throw around, speed, aggression, and goal kicking.

Would not mind more in but suppose you can go overboard.


IMHO.

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In: JSOS, Willo, O’Brien/Stocker
Out: Newman, Lang, Newnes

Would love to see Stocker but I doubt it happens. Wasn’t selected for the pre-season games and hasn’t been an emergency for rounds 1 and 2. Somethings not quite right with that. He’s tough, aggressive and has great skills. Just what we need. Think we see O’Brien instead.

Ins and out won’t matter if they don’t throw everything they have at the Cats. Win, lose or draw I want to see a physical response from all 22 players. Set the standard for the rest of the season and going forward.

I’d be bringing in Willo stocker and philp ... all quick and play with intent and tackle ... O’Brien meh doesn’t do much without the ball ... we got enough of those types at the moment ... Silvagni another who at least tackles ...

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I can’t recall Moore playing for Richmond but I liked the comment about guys taking chances. Could he play a big bodied midfield role? Is he going to contribute less than Setterfield?

This would be our best win since beating the * without SOS, Bradley and Kouta