Tom Browne talking bs again.

Same. Who's going to take his spot?

Others would make way for Charlie, Kennedy, Marchbank, Cunningham & Docherty before Thomas.

Williamson, Schumacher, Ben Silvagni & Stocker might be the ones, but are trading on promise.

Finbar, Macreadie, Goddard, Fasolo & Polson would be behind him in any position.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

It could just be a money dump as others have suggested.
Maybe he could take a pay cut if he believes the has another year and wants to help develop some of the kids.

Either way, I would still have him over the players you mention he's above, adding Williamson to that list too. Unfortunately I don't see him getting back on the park for us with any consistency.

I would be very disappointed if Daisy does not get another year. This year has been his best since coming to Carlton. He's also easily in the best 22. To add to that I would hate it if Tom "second hand jocks" Browne is right that guy is an absolute flog.

Maybe Daisy and Connors though he was getting a much better offer and things got a little difficult.
Why tell him / media leak it now.

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Coniglio isn’t an $800k+ player, so I can’t see how it’s so hard to fit Daisy in at the league average.

If McGovern is the new benchmark, we’re stuffed.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

I'd suggest most clubs would jump at Coniglio for 800k

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Only “most”?

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Turkish Proverb

I wonder if the club deliberately leaked this to Tom Browne.

If we end up without a decent off-season signing and give Daisy one more year, easy way to hedge bets and say "Well, yeah it was Tom Browne, he makes shit up, that was never going to happen".

Coniglio is worth much more than $800K considering he is a free agent.
I agree however that McGovern shouldn't be on $700K.

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There is no footy god

If you want to attract free agents like Coniglio considering not giving up any picks for him then we need to give up something else to get the deal over the line

The TPP is increasing by the year and supporters have to adjust their numbers with the times.

What was $700K in the TPP 3 years ago has dramatically increased every year since.

Coniglio is a $1M player given he's a FA and we get to keep our 1st rounder.
Shiel was offered more by 4 clubs we know of.
Coniglio is a much better footballer than Shiel to put things in perspective.
I hope we get Cogs, even if its $1.2M.
We have banked space and that's another factor to consider: 105% TPP.

McGovern has shown he's worth $700 and I haven't heard that he's on that other than from where the rumor started on the Big Footy Crows site.
I doubt its $700K, and who knows, he may turn out to be worth that plaus some if he adds more than that in value to the 'whole'.

Daisy is another story.
I guess its up to him what he is willing to accept what's on offer and weigh that up with his career offers off field, perhaps in the media.

Teague is now coach. Let him decide what he thinks is best for 2020, because that's all we are talking about when it comes to Daisy.

Daisy has become a Navy Blue with his name on the locker after this weekend. Much better than what we were thinking of Daisy in the Mad Malt house days.

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Exactly.

Lets just get the deal over the line to bolster the midfield group for 2020.

He's a free agent.
We are a bottom 4 club...on the ladder, with a Big 4 reputation.

A fit Coniglio or Kelly from the GWS is exactly what our list needs for the sustained era of success we have been planning and preparing for the last 5 years.

Pus we have 2019 and 2020 First round picks in the hand to trade for another mature mid 20yo star or 2.

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This isn’t the NBA. The cap was negotiated at $12.45m for 2017 and will rise to $13.54 by 2022 when it is negotiated again.

Just 31 players made more than $800k in 2018. Six of those were $1m+ and included Tom Boyd and the fat COLA deal that Tom Lynch was on at GC.

Coniglio has managed just two full seasons (where ‘full’ is 22 games or more including finals) in his eight year career. He’s never been named All Australian. He made just one of the 22Under22 sides.

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"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter" - Winston Churchill.

NBA? obviously something going on in a code I have no interest and therefore no knowledge of.

I'll check that when I have time Crusader because I thought there was incremental changes year upon year up to 2022 with the new deal, and not a one of increase...and prior to 2017 the numbers were lower and that 2017 was one of the incremental increases from 2016.

My point was the cap we traditionally knew just over $10M is different today than it was, and there will be further increases ie there's more money available to pay to the same number of players on a list.

Not sure if you're making a point or presenting some old facts to consider.

So, I'm guessing you don't think its worth paying Cognilio circa 2019 more than $800K per year as a FA?

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Did anyone read the Mick Malthouse article in the HUN today?
It seemed liked he blamed everything on Swanny's poor contract management ....

I thought they were mates? Is that not so?

I suspect no-one plays 22 games at GWS. Their injury management is deplorable. Hence their S&C manager is getting the arse.
When he was fit earlier this season, he was a top 10 player in the AFL.
Get him into our system with AR and hopefully he gets some continuity.

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He was close to favourite for the Brownlow early this season and wasn’t far off last year either. When he’s fit he’s top 10-20 player in the league. Hard, two way runner, wins his own ball, uses it well, and kicks plenty of goals. He’s a pretty complete player

We will have the ability to heavily front end his contract so that by the time the kids are ready for big contracts, the majority of Cogs deal will be paid off. If anyone was ever in a position to pay overs for a FA it’s us right now. I would much rather pay an extra $200k and outbid GWS than enable them to match it and be forced to cough up our next 2 first round picks for him, cause that’s the reality if we try to get him for sub $1m


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Daisy being squeezed out due to salary cap pressure as we chase big fish -
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/dai ... 52hhx.html

It doesn’t seem right that Thomas won’t be on our list next year but Polson, Macreadie, Lang & Finbar will be. The vagaries of AFL list management...

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It's never as good as it looks and it's never as bad as it seems.

How the hell can we be under salary cap pressure with the list we have right now?!!

This doesn’t make sense, Thomas must have done something really bad.....