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Who should be Carlton's next coach?
Teague 48%  48%  [ 125 ]
B Scott 2%  2%  [ 4 ]
Clarkson 13%  13%  [ 34 ]
Ratten 13%  13%  [ 33 ]
Voss 7%  7%  [ 18 ]
Malthouse 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Walls 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Caracella 3%  3%  [ 9 ]
Longmuir 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
Barker 0%  0%  [ 1 ]
Leppitsch 0%  0%  [ 1 ]
Mitchell 3%  3%  [ 7 ]
Bassett 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
Burns 2%  2%  [ 6 ]
Roos 3%  3%  [ 8 ]
Other 5%  5%  [ 12 ]
Total votes : 262
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:10 pm 
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So it seems like Teague will be formally announced as Coach this week.
Good luck David and bring us No17


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:23 pm 
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yep. :clap: :thanks:

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:41 pm 
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keogh wrote:
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Don’t get where this sense of entitlement has come from, do fans not realise where we’ve come from mid season?


It's not entitlement - far from it, it's expecting more than what was dished up under Bolton. I'm not convinced we're getting it.


If a top 4 side plays at their best against a side out of 8 playing at the best then obviously the top 4 side wins. We've been competitive against 2 top 4 sides playing at their peak. We've beaten Brisbane, who haven't lost since, and 2 other sides in the lower regions of the 8 at the time. Other than beating Melbourne, where a shank kick out of defence cost us, we could've done no more.



We were smashed at the centre clearances with Cotchin and Martin both out
I would be fast tracking TDKs development
We also lack players that run and carry the ball
Stood out like dogs balls yesterday

Whilst I concede that Bolton’s time was up because he complicated things for the players too much
any new coach with the list we have would struggle against a top 4 team
The performance of the team in the last 2 weeks has done his chances of getting the head job no harm

I’m more interested in what we do during trade week
SOS has less chips to play with because he and his team went too hard with the quick fix last year

Personally I don’t think Clarkson would leave Hawthorn
The guy is such a competitive prick he wants to show the footy world that the Hawks can win another flag with a new list
Problem is he trades away multiple picks for established talent which doesn’t win youflags
Your core group comes from good drafting of kids
Clarkos biggest strength is also his biggest weakness
He simply doesn’t want the Hawks to bottom out
I rather bottom out and rebuild with youth

If you think about it since the draft took full effect 20 years ago only one team has tasted premiership
Glory with 2 completely different lists
West Coast 2006 and 2018 and they finished last or near last in between
That’s why I wouldn’t want Clarkson
Also for a senior coach he has too much of a say on things at the Dawks
Give the job to Teague

If Bolton had
Hodge
Lewis
Mitchell
Franklin
Roughead
Rioli
Birchall
Burgoyne
I reckon he would have coached a flag as well


I disagree. 4 wins from 45 with essentially the same group that has since won 5 from 9 doesn't paint a good picture.

I still like Stocker a lot and with Charlie, Doc and possibly Coniglio coming in for 2020, plus having Walsh getting bigger, faster, stronger - I think we're in for a bloody good 'streak'.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:55 pm 
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I'm enjoying the change of game style but there's some areas I'd like to see changed up. Firstly, the reliance on Cripps, Murphy, Ed and to a lesser extent Walsh doing the overwhelming majority of midfield work. As much as they're the best credentialed performers, the others won't develop without opportunity.
We need more depth in the middle than we're playing with at the moment. Changes should have been made earlier. Gibbons, Fisher and to a lesser extent Dow have the ability and additionally, they have the run to give us more separation from the congestion which we're missing at the moment.
The selection of O'Brien in those conditions was costly IMHO. With the impending wet weather, I called for Kennedy to replace O'Brien and i still believe it was the correct lever to pull. O'Brien was very poor and offered the defence zero assistance as the defensive wingman. He'll be a good player but he should be disappointed with his effort yesterday.

We were flogged out of the middle as well. We were 0-6 down at half time with centre bounces. We tend to stick with structures too long before making changes. From memory JSOS and Gibbons attended one centre bounce each with both getting the clearance. Cripps and Murphy had zero for the 4 quarters! It's pointless the coaches being starstruck and flogging a dead horse to the detriment of the team. They need to be more agile in their decision making and less reliant on 2 or 3 players.
The one bonus is we're staying in most games. On Sunday, Daisys miss was a shocker and Levi had the chance to put us within 11 points early in the last quarter when we had all the momentum. It's those important moments we have to grasp to become a consistent performer.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:29 pm 
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Great summary BV. The midfield rotations aren’t there currently, so it seems we are either too much one way or the other. We just can’t get the balance right.

Ps. I thought it was Kruezer who missed the crucial goal in the last.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:10 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
I'm enjoying the change of game style but there's some areas I'd like to see changed up. Firstly, the reliance on Cripps, Murphy, Ed and to a lesser extent Walsh doing the overwhelming majority of midfield work. As much as they're the best credentialed performers, the others won't develop without opportunity.
We need more depth in the middle than we're playing with at the moment. Changes should have been made earlier. Gibbons, Fisher and to a lesser extent Dow have the ability and additionally, they have the run to give us more separation from the congestion which we're missing at the moment.
The selection of O'Brien in those conditions was costly IMHO. With the impending wet weather, I called for Kennedy to replace O'Brien and i still believe it was the correct lever to pull. O'Brien was very poor and offered the defence zero assistance as the defensive wingman. He'll be a good player but he should be disappointed with his effort yesterday.

We were flogged out of the middle as well. We were 0-6 down at half time with centre bounces. We tend to stick with structures too long before making changes. From memory JSOS and Gibbons attended one centre bounce each with both getting the clearance. Cripps and Murphy had zero for the 4 quarters! It's pointless the coaches being starstruck and flogging a dead horse to the detriment of the team. They need to be more agile in their decision making and less reliant on 2 or 3 players.
The one bonus is we're staying in most games. On Sunday, Daisys miss was a shocker and Levi had the chance to put us within 11 points early in the last quarter when we had all the momentum. It's those important moments we have to grasp to become a consistent performer.


The forecast was for wet weather from days out, so the Kennedy omission for McGovern always seemed strange. Only needed one of him or Mckay, and given their relative performances Harry could have had a rest for Kennedy. Would have given us another midfield option as well, in conditions that would have suited his lack of speed.

On Daisy's miss, I though the commentators were pretty harsh on Deluca, nothing wrong with his pass backwards, Thomas should never have missed that.


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The Duke wrote:
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Blue Vain wrote:
I'm enjoying the change of game style but there's some areas I'd like to see changed up. Firstly, the reliance on Cripps, Murphy, Ed and to a lesser extent Walsh doing the overwhelming majority of midfield work. As much as they're the best credentialed performers, the others won't develop without opportunity.
We need more depth in the middle than we're playing with at the moment. Changes should have been made earlier. Gibbons, Fisher and to a lesser extent Dow have the ability and additionally, they have the run to give us more separation from the congestion which we're missing at the moment.
Bolts tried giving the young ones a go and look where it got him.

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jezzarules wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
I'm enjoying the change of game style but there's some areas I'd like to see changed up. Firstly, the reliance on Cripps, Murphy, Ed and to a lesser extent Walsh doing the overwhelming majority of midfield work. As much as they're the best credentialed performers, the others won't develop without opportunity.
We need more depth in the middle than we're playing with at the moment. Changes should have been made earlier. Gibbons, Fisher and to a lesser extent Dow have the ability and additionally, they have the run to give us more separation from the congestion which we're missing at the moment.
Bolts tried giving the young ones a go and look where it got him.
What is wrong with using both as BV suggested.
Bolton went all youth Teague gone all senior.
Mix them up a bit and rotate more through there

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jezzarules wrote:
Blue Vain wrote:
I'm enjoying the change of game style but there's some areas I'd like to see changed up. Firstly, the reliance on Cripps, Murphy, Ed and to a lesser extent Walsh doing the overwhelming majority of midfield work. As much as they're the best credentialed performers, the others won't develop without opportunity.
We need more depth in the middle than we're playing with at the moment. Changes should have been made earlier. Gibbons, Fisher and to a lesser extent Dow have the ability and additionally, they have the run to give us more separation from the congestion which we're missing at the moment.
Bolts tried giving the young ones a go and look where it got him.


Yeah he did. But probably needed to give them roles on the flanks or tagging before being considered as bonafide mids. Every club seems to do it apart from us. Even Danger started his career half forward flank. Bolton's ambition was below his ability to coach.


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Clarkson has told the Hawthorn players he's staying. For him to leave now would mean he becomes a liar.
He has abused their trust.

Then he arrives at Carlton as a known dirty sniping little weasel, and an untrustworthy Liar.

Yeah, would be a boost to our culture. :evil:

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If he were to leave Hawthorn, there could be an opening at Essendon*.
Now that would be the perfect fit,

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ferdinand wrote:
On Daisy's miss, I though the commentators were pretty harsh on Deluca, nothing wrong with his pass backwards, Thomas should never have missed that.


It was so obvious Daisy was going to miss, it was a centimetre-perfect replica of the Gibbs miss when JSOS had a gimme for his maiden goal. Who knows, maybe the burden of responsibility is too heavy in those circumstances.

SB: yeah, that was Krooz who missed the great deflator. Levi would have split the middle and put it twenty rows back (true story).


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:41 am 
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Blue Vain wrote:
I'm enjoying the change of game style but there's some areas I'd like to see changed up. Firstly, the reliance on Cripps, Murphy, Ed and to a lesser extent Walsh doing the overwhelming majority of midfield work. As much as they're the best credentialed performers, the others won't develop without opportunity.
We need more depth in the middle than we're playing with at the moment. Changes should have been made earlier. Gibbons, Fisher and to a lesser extent Dow have the ability and additionally, they have the run to give us more separation from the congestion which we're missing at the moment.
The selection of O'Brien in those conditions was costly IMHO. With the impending wet weather, I called for Kennedy to replace O'Brien and i still believe it was the correct lever to pull. O'Brien was very poor and offered the defence zero assistance as the defensive wingman. He'll be a good player but he should be disappointed with his effort yesterday.

We were flogged out of the middle as well. We were 0-6 down at half time with centre bounces. We tend to stick with structures too long before making changes. From memory JSOS and Gibbons attended one centre bounce each with both getting the clearance. Cripps and Murphy had zero for the 4 quarters! It's pointless the coaches being starstruck and flogging a dead horse to the detriment of the team. They need to be more agile in their decision making and less reliant on 2 or 3 players.
The one bonus is we're staying in most games. On Sunday, Daisys miss was a shocker and Levi had the chance to put us within 11 points early in the last quarter when we had all the momentum. It's those important moments we have to grasp to become a consistent performer.


Great post BV,

On wet a day, you need your big body players and Kennedy would have added some much needed grunt.

I also thought that JSOS should have been rotated through the midfield more as he gives us something different, particularly when cripps is being well held


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:45 am 
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deano35 wrote:
So it seems like Teague will be formally announced as Coach this week.
Good luck David and bring us No17


Well I guess we won't be getting Coniglio then. :mad:
I hope this is not true and we at least wait until the end of season.


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