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Who should be Carlton's next coach?
Teague 48%  48%  [ 125 ]
B Scott 2%  2%  [ 4 ]
Clarkson 13%  13%  [ 34 ]
Ratten 13%  13%  [ 33 ]
Voss 7%  7%  [ 18 ]
Malthouse 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Walls 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Caracella 3%  3%  [ 9 ]
Longmuir 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
Barker 0%  0%  [ 1 ]
Leppitsch 0%  0%  [ 1 ]
Mitchell 3%  3%  [ 7 ]
Bassett 1%  1%  [ 2 ]
Burns 2%  2%  [ 6 ]
Roos 3%  3%  [ 8 ]
Other 5%  5%  [ 12 ]
Total votes : 262
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 4:52 pm 
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17th Premiership wrote:
Big questions about Teague are whether or not he just provided a fresh change and picked off some low hanging fruit to unleash our improvement, whether or not he has a longer term plan to take the club forward.


Yep. This is the question we (supporters) are not placed to answer. I’m holding back my love a little on Teague because while he seems to have done a very good caretaker job it’s hard to know from the outside whether or not he is the right long term leader for our club.

Do I have absolute confidence in our selection panel? Sadly, no. Do they know shit loads more about the internal workings of the club and the personalities/strengths/weaknesses of the candidates than I do? Absolutely. Do I have any choice other than to trust (hope?) that they know what they are doing? No.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:01 pm 
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1) Re West Coast match, after their period of dominance, it felt like they were in control.
We had opportunities to get back into it but it felt like they were able to maintain the buffer and I’d say 24pts was probably a fair reflection of the gap on the day. And that was not a bad reflection on us - we maintained our effort but were mostly let down by skill errors at crucial moments.

2) The umpiring was shit but I genuinely don’t believe there is any anti-Carlton vendetta of any sort by the umpires. The closest it would come to that is if a player keeps mouthing off or acting then an ump might read a bit more into a play where they’re involved.
Otherwise, like the cricket, I just think it was plain crap umpiring.

3) Clarkson would be great but if true I seriously hope we’re not throwing the whole kitty at him b/c we need it for other gun footy department people and also id Prefer it if he was coming for the team and the because he is driven to win another flag and not just for the money. I realise these are not mutually exclusive (he could come for the money and still be driven, e.g. Judd) but i guess I’ve been tainted by the Malthouse, Pagan experience and our historic messiah plays.
However, I would only be despondent and throw my toys out of the cot if we appoint Hinkley or Lyon. All the other options, I could live with. Although if Teague wins another game or two he will have proved himself the best guy and it will be very difficult to hire anyone else - even Clarkson.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:01 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
Big questions about Teague are whether or not he just provided a fresh change and picked off some low hanging fruit to unleash our improvement, whether or not he has a longer term plan to take the club forward.


Yep. This is the question we (supporters) are not placed to answer. I’m holding back my love a little on Teague because while he seems to have done a very good caretaker job it’s hard to know from the outside whether or not he is the right long term leader for our club.

Do I have absolute confidence in our selection panel? Sadly, no. Do they know shit loads more about the internal workings of the club and the personalities/strengths/weaknesses of the candidates than I do? Absolutely. Do I have any choice other than to trust (hope?) that they know what they are doing? No.


I'm pretty sure objective opinions on Teague are banned in here. :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:11 pm 
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Ratten was on the channel 7 news tonight and says he has not received a call from Carlton.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 7:58 pm 
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camelboy wrote:
Caretaker coaches have had mixed results when given the full-time job
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... eef90bf42f

Worth a read.
Fifty cents a day? For that crap? Gotta be kidding. I'll remain ignorant I think.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 9:27 pm 
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moshe25 wrote:
camelboy wrote:
Caretaker coaches have had mixed results when given the full-time job
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... eef90bf42f

Worth a read.
Fifty cents a day? For that crap? Gotta be kidding. I'll remain ignorant I think.

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Less ignorant for not reading it, I’d suggest.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 10:15 pm 
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Aren't most digital newspaper descriptions around a dollar a week? That's what the NYT offers on my facepage and like em or not, they do do long form journalism so you get plenty for your buck. 3.50 a week for a tabloid, that's more than Netflix ffs... People actually pay that??


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jim wrote:
camelboy wrote:
Caretaker coaches have had mixed results when given the full-time job
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... eef90bf42f

Worth a read.


Not surprising as they take over shit teams.


THIS.

Headline could alternatively read: Coaches who've never been caretaker have mixed results

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:24 am 
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someone I trust emailed me last night saying Teague has the job

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I no longer trust them

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:46 am 
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I think Paul Roos is a transparent indicator. He was so opposed to the idea of Teague but seems to have warmed clearly due to his knowledge of what's going on.


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dannyboy wrote:
someone I trust emailed me last night saying Teague has the job


dannyboy wrote:
I no longer trust them


I’m so confused

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:16 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:07 am 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
17th Premiership wrote:
Big questions about Teague are whether or not he just provided a fresh change and picked off some low hanging fruit to unleash our improvement, whether or not he has a longer term plan to take the club forward.


Yep. This is the question we (supporters) are not placed to answer. I’m holding back my love a little on Teague because while he seems to have done a very good caretaker job it’s hard to know from the outside whether or not he is the right long term leader for our club.

Do I have absolute confidence in our selection panel? Sadly, no. Do they know shit loads more about the internal workings of the club and the personalities/strengths/weaknesses of the candidates than I do? Absolutely. Do I have any choice other than to trust (hope?) that they know what they are doing? No.


Good post.

Reality check.....despite the momentum of the Teague Train.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:17 am 
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Lot's of whispers about Clarkson coming. Betting odds have shifted a fair bit in the last day also.



Please no. He's in the past and the AFL are not looking after Hawks anymore, so I can't see why they'd look after him in Carlton colours.

Whilst Clarkson's cluster surprised everyone in 2008, the opposition soon found out how to punch holes through it and did.
They had the invincible Buddy Franklin getting them over he line, led by Hodge, Mitchell and Lewis, not Clarkson.

The Grand Final was lost by Geelong by bad kicking.

Hawks did what they were allowed to do and shit themselves with the Forward Pressure and rush behinds.

I really don't like Clarkson. Pretty obvious. He just makes me sick with his smugness.
He is not the Messiah. He is everything all Carltonians should despise.
He needs our list more than we need him.
Carltonians should all despise him forever. He has nothing good to say for our club, and he's not interested in coming to Princes Park.
He knows he'll get a cool reception if he does.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:52 am 
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Sidefx wrote:
camelboy wrote:
Caretaker coaches have had mixed results when given the full-time job
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... eef90bf42f

Worth a read.


Anyway you could please post this in the thread. Cant' get access and too cheap to pay. :lol:


No, I don't have access to the Hun. I got the link via twitter and when I posted it yesterday I could read the article in full. :confused:

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:38 am 
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camelboy wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
camelboy wrote:
Caretaker coaches have had mixed results when given the full-time job
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ ... eef90bf42f

Worth a read.


Anyway you could please post this in the thread. Cant' get access and too cheap to pay. :lol:


No, I don't have access to the Hun. I got the link via twitter and when I posted it yesterday I could read the article in full. :confused:


That's how they get you. You get a couple of FREE reads then you're cooked and they block you with subscription ads. You used to be able to just change browsers but then they stopped that too, must be tracking ip addresses.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:39 am 
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buzzaaaah wrote:
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Thanks Buzzaaaah.

Interesting, a bit on the fence though. But the stats are good.
Safe journalism.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:54 am 
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I think the point is, appointing a caretaker who has success over the tail end of a season is no more reliable than appointing someone who hasn't coached at your club before.

Of the caretakers, Teague has been the most impressive. There is a resilience and an ability to move the ball with fluidity that just didn't exist 8 weeks ago.

North have looked happier under Shaw but they played as well in their last game under Scott as any game since. Their style hasn't really changed very much.
Saints looked good week 1, were awful against Melb (Melb were more awful), and against Adelaide, they looked the same as when Richo coached them.

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