If you watch "On The Couch" each Monday, Roos gives away what seems to be slight hints.
This week he emphasised that he was a Carlton supporter which he has brought up a few times now.
Last week he called the Prez Mark.....

Hmmmm....the plot continues...
Now I rest my case... LoL

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Well.... we've known of Roos' support of Carlton since he was zone recruited to Fitzroy from Beverley Hills and his nickname was 'Kanga'...but I did note the continued 'Mark' reference. I'm fine if MarLoGiu has met with Roos. Might have even picked his brain on how best to approach Clarkson. Might have enquired as to what non-coaching role someone might have at the club and might have asked his opinion on Teague. I want the President to have coffee with whomever and whenever he likes to get a well-rounded picture of where some thoughts in the industry are, because the current thoughts of the industry are that David Teague is Senior coach material.

Roos definitely wants that mentor role.
L Matthews said count him in too. Lots of money with no ultimate responsibility.

I watched Dermie on Saturday Stretch on Fox. He was very cagey about Teague getting the job and Clarko remaining at Hawks. More of a "Let's see what happens at the end of the year".

The Clarkson chase is still going.

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No doubt. LoGiudice chased Graham Wright hard. SOS was second choice. Whomever gets the Carlton coaching gig will also be second choice. That wouldn't sit comfortably with me if I was in their shoes, but I wouldn't think the likes of David Teague are phased by it.

You'd have to be blind Freddy to not think the chase is still on because of a media report. What's interesting is people all of a sudden taking the moral high ground because Clarkson has allegedly said he will be staying at the Hawks until 2022. C'mon, really? We are Carlton! This is the real world!
Another interesting point brought up, is Teague saying he wants to stay on even if he's not appointed head coach. Maybe he already knows something we don't. And it could be why Barker is leaving too, no room for 2 2ICs. Either way, we have an interesting 4 weeks to go. Hopefully with some wins and an A-Grade mid or two wanting to come to the club.

In the real world, the money required to break Clarkson's contract and pay the luxury tax after he signs with us will add an extra half a dozen seats to the board.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

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This makes no sense. What does seats at the board have to do with a coaching contract? Please elaborate.
As for breaking a contract, really? You know employers and employees break contracts all the time. This doesn't mean it has to be worse case scenario where it is a bitter split between two parties. And how do you know that we will have to pay exorbitantly to get him, this is just an assumption. Maybe he thinks we are in the same position (or a year ahead) when he took over the Hawks and wants 4 more premierships to his name and be the undisputed best coach of all time in the AFL. Or maybe his departure as head coach at the Hawks is imminent given Sam Mitchell is back at the club. Buckley, Malthouse scenario.

If he were to leave the hawks, it will be because he can see that his list is nearing the end of it's run and he knows more than many that it takes serious high end talent to keep at the pointy end of the ladder and he no longer has that talent at the Hawkes.

He would be looking at a list with Cripps, Walsh, Doc, Wieters, Harry, Curnow, Jones, Fish and McGovern and know that he has the tools over the next decade to get a couple more premierships to become the greatest coach of all time.

The point Buzzaaaah, and this is also in reply to Sidefx's "this is the real world" comment is that looking people in the eyes and lying to them is not ok whatever world you think we live in. It trashes relationships. I'm not talking here about vague media statements from his manager. Players have stated that he has given them personal assurances that he's staying at the Hawks. Everyone's heard them - including the Carlton list. If I was on the Blues list and a bloke like that turned up as coach and started talking about building bonds and forming close relationships I'd be taking it with a grain of salt.

Don't kid yourselves that it's all about being "professional" or that things can ever be "too important" or "too serious" to care about relationships and reputation. Relationships have always mattered and always will. People don't give their all because "professional".

And for the record, I have changed jobs many times whilst working somewhere. Being a nobody it's been easy enough to keep quiet and at worst evade a direct answer. I would never ever have looked any of my work friends in the eye and lied directly about it to them. You just don't do that sort of thing.

Anyway, that's my two cents. You conduct yourselves however you like but on this point I will never change my mind.

I wouldn’t tear the house down if we appointed Clarkson but I would certainly hope that if so, we are paying him roughly what he gets now and not the mooted $1.5m... for 2 reasons:
1) I don’t want him to come for the money. I want him to come to get more success and b/c he thinks we have the list to help him do it.
2) In this day and age, we need a broad and deep football department to deliver sustained success and I don’t want to overly limit our ability to pay for a few more top end footy department professionals just to secure the big name coach.

My preference however is that we go on to win another match or two this year, don’t get blown out of the water and the easy decision is made to back in Teague. Ideally, without any official mentor or ‘senior’ coach manager etc...

(If we appoint Ross Lyon or Ken Hinkley, I would seriously reconsider renewing my membership at the end of the year.)

Indeed. R.I.P Bob...



Clarkson is known for laying down the law. I'd reckon the words 'fit in or f*** off' would be spoken to at least two, likely three of the above list. Gen Z won't respond favorably to that. Talent only gets you so far. They know that. That's (in part) why they're spruiking Teague.

Exactly. They are currently in the middle tier cycle and unless they start bringing in some serious young talent then they are destined to stay there for a few years.

This article doesn't really scream we have lots of young talent coming through for them.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-07-31/ ... st-to-best

Plus they have some pretty big names retiring soon.

Not to mention an unenviable drive to Dingley....

I guess that's your own personal ethos you wish to live by.

FWIW: I have sold two businesses and helped facilitate a 3rd. In all of these businesses I have had to lie to staff due to non-disclosure. I still maintain good relationships with ex staff members from all businesses and in-fact, I'm still used as a reference for many of them. Personally, I put it down to mutual respect of all involved and the logical thinking of why things could not be public knowledge at the time of negotiations. And I can't see anything different here with Clarkson.

I think your'e putting way too much emotion into this. From my experiences, you are in a minority when it comes to your view on professional standards and employee productivity. But we are all different I guess and it might effect one or two players. But if it meant winning a premiership, you'd be kidding yourself if all players would not give 100% under Clarkson.

Barass70 on BF has posted that Ross Lyon was never on our radar.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Geez coulda saved some of us some angst if he'd declared that earlier.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Sad state of affairs when you hang off the words of a few...

Oh glorious day!