Anyone else reckon Setanta will line up at full forward in Fevola's absence in the NAB Cup?

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Yeah I think he will although I'd like to see him upfield a bit on a wing or half forward. Wouldn't mind seeing how Fish would go playing out of the square at FF.

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Fish has been training as a leading forward during several drills.

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Have you seen him play in the VFL?

I'd like to see him play and make it big BUT...

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Yeah I have on several occasions.

I think he would be a handy replacement for Fevola and he would gain a lot of experience from it.

Obviously, he wouldn't play there the whole time. Guys like Lance, Fish, Waite, DeLuca and Hartlett will be given a shot as well.

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i think full forward is his natural spot, i must admit i was surprised that we let him develop at Full Forwawrd while we were clearly struggling at centre half back or centre half forward. I think Setanta will get a number of games.

And as for this post, BlueVein hit it on the head. This year is hopefully about the development of those young players named. If they persist in giving the 5 year players like Sporn and Wiggins and Prendergast games over Russell and Walker and Muprhy I will be mighty pissed off.

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I would play Setanta or Hartlett at FF during Fevolas absence....I think Fisher will do very well as the third forward.
Good opportunity for both the coach to try some new players and new tactics...dont want to see Bryan or Deluca at FF...in the pocket is fine but I want real key position players trialled in the key spots not part timers...
Eddie Betts is a player who I would try further up the ground and give him a run in the midfield just to see how he goes....not all the time but as a bit of variety..if Betts is fit I think he has something to offer further up the ground and I dont want to see him pidgeon holed as just as a forward pocket goalkicker...its starvation corner in the pocket when the team isnt going well and we need to do what Collingwood have done with Brodie Holland and educate Betts into another role.
I like Eddie as a player, tackles well, kicks straight and has some freak ability to win games...dont want to see him rotting in the pocket especially when we cant get the ball forward...

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We play the pussies on Feb 25th and lets hope heaps of youngsters are given a crack particularly on the ground and not on the pine getting splinters up their colllective rectums.

Providing their fit all the draft picks should get a guernsey and play them in the cauldron of the action.

I dont give a flying fart if we win this useless trophy.I want to see youngsters given a go.

I wonder if we need the money like last year? Might have a fair bit to say in regards to the composition of the NAB cup team...

I'm barracking for us to win again this year.

Betts cannot play in the midfield simply because he lacks the motor. Even when playing for the Calder Cannons he spent (at most) 5 minute spells in the middle. He just ran out of puff. After he came home last in the first of our 3.2km time trials before Christmas, he was put on a 7am start (boxing sessions) in an attempt to trim him down. The theory of running him in the middle, is pie in the sky stuff. Won't happen in 2006 and beyond unless Eddie improves his stamina. He is a burst player not a stayer.

For mine, Walker is the interesting one. Was given some fairly blunt messages by the coach in his one on one assessment back in October. The coach questioned whether Walker has the 'passion' to eat, live and breathe this game 24/7. Pagan believes if you want to hit the top, you need to put everything else in your life on hold. That is, the window of opportunity is small and the time for Walker is over the next 3 years. Maybe less. Pagan also gave a similar message to Hartlett and Russell. Told them they are nice guys but nice guys run you know what and this time next year they could be back in SA and it could all be over for them. Walker has it all in front of him. He has completed his apprenticeship. It will now be interesting to see how he responds to the coaches message.

Preacher, Walker does have a passion for footy. Its onbvious with how he prepares himself.
If thats how Denis talks to Walker Hartlett and Russell. when those guys do bust a gut then he has blokes like Lance on 400k.. and Kouta captain.. and he wanted to keep Campo... he has himself to blame for us falling over.

Those kids do bust a gut.. and getting back to my point about standards...that leadership group lack them.. and certainly are not capable of imposing themselves onto our playing list.

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Have heard these rumours before. I believe they were propagated by ballistic blues or someone else.

I don't know what Pagan is trying to prove here. Is he trying to challenge them to try to get the best out of them? If so, then this is extremely risky. However, from what the training reports seem to state, then they've responded extremely well and are amongst the best trainers in the pre-Xmas period.

However, this is just rumour. This rumour was debunked by someone at one stage, I can't remember by whom.

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Strange rumour if true. If it was the subject of a one-one one interview it seems to suggest the reports would have originated from either coach or player - which seems unlikely.

I would be happy with Eddie having 5 mins in the middle everynow and then...I'm not talking about changing positions on a permanent basis and you obviously have seen more of Eddie than I have judging by your comments on his motor but I think its the equivalent of giving Mark Waugh a few overs in a effort to fiddle a wicket...a bit of Eddie magic in the middle for 5 mins could win you a game.

re: Walker, Russell, and Hartlett....bit tough if the coach is making those type of comments...Walker has been very good and shown plenty IMHO, trains very well, one of the fitter players at the club by all reports and copped some big jobs under trying circumstances....there is bloke who used to play HF who also gives the odd good pass to Fev who needs that type of lecturing before any of our young blokes do IMO..

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Preacher has a finger on the pulse.. so i wouldnt discount what he says .
You cant tell first year players, one of who was injured alot and the other playing a backpocket for the Bullants after being drafted in the top 10 "Youll send up in Adelaide next year if youre not careful".. thats shocking!!!...

I dont mind what they say to senior players but first year players living away from home??... thats like telling them as soon as your first contract is up .. get the hell out of here and go home!!!...

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......the reports are not rumour. What is Pagan trying to prove? I think it's obvious. He is laying down the gauntlet. And good on him because before you know it, some of these guys could be on the scrapheap quicker than they think. Look at Woewodin - brownlow medal 5 years ago and now?

I realise that Walker has a go but I believe what Pagan was trying to point out was whether Walker wanted to be a player who plays 5 or 6 games and is then dropped to the Bullants versus someone who retains his place in the team consistently and in 3 years time is in our top 6 players.

With Russell and Hartlett, especially Russell, there were huge moans and groans about how he was pick 9 last year. He has big question marks over his ability to place his head over the ball in a contest. In a mid season Bullants game down at Port, Mitchell gave Russell the biggest spray heard in a long long time.

Kouta must have a passion for footy as well if preparation is a guide. Presents himself in immacalute condition year after year and sometimes on one leg.

Preacher.. its also pretty well known that Pagan and Co didnt think Simpson was much chop either.
They saw things in simpson they didnt like...
there was doubt he would make the grade.

Whislt he is still to really prove himself i think he has shown he can be special.
The rest of us saw alot in Simpson that we did like...

I think theyre expecting the kids to carry the team.. so we dont win any more spoons.. or so their record doesnt look as bad.

jbee.
As for Kouta??...well the game last year against Brisbane said it all. Brown was played on him and Kouta didnt put his body in.. he would escort Brown to the ball and then jog along behind him as Brown kept getting the ball out.


Just a fantastic effort by the captain...!!

There were lessons there for the younger kids...

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Thats what you get with Pagan, even at North he was the same. I have no problem with him challenging a youngster to get the best out of him.