Going out on a limb here, but the only difference is that Bolton would've already installed the basics of Calrkson's coaching in the club and players already and they won't have to start from scratch again. Not to mention we already have AR at the club too.
Let's hope the rumours are right, as pretty much anyone else means a step back before we go forward.
And I have no romantic delusions in either Teague or Ratten being coach. Both are not what we need and are neither are a step forward of what we had if we want to be a powerhouse again.

Anyone noticed the drop off in performance of the the hawks the last 3 weeks?? Clarkson looking for a mutually agreed early release from contract me thinks!

If David Parkin still considered himself “the bloke from Hawthorn” during his first season at Carlton in 1981, do we view Clarkson as “the bloke from Hawthorn, that when he was playing for North Melbourne caved in Ian Aitken’s jaw”?


It’s just a rhetorical question/observation.

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I’ve stated many times that I just desperately want us to be a true power club again, on and off field.

I’m all for whatever it takes for us achieve that.

Unsure how likely it is (most probably still very, very unlikely), if that means securing Clarkson as coach, I can live with it.

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Clarkson. Good but yuk.

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Pagan was 55 when he took over here. Malthouse was 59.

Clarkson will be 52 next season.

I have a really really bad feeling about history repeating. We're always throwing money at yesterday's coaches instead of unearthing tomorrow's

Pagan and Malthouse inherited different lists.
Pagan especially.

Malthouse was 61 and past it. He was ok at Collingwood only a a couple of years before as he had that team for over 10 years and had leaders to get the younger guys on board.
Starting again at 61 he had nothing and knew it, which is why he brought in Daisy.

Clarko is not much older than Malthouse when he took over the Pies and has shown he can evolve.

3rd time lucky?

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I've always thought in a football context, Hate is a wasteful, negative emotion.
But, I've Hated Clarkson since 1987. If he lands at our club, then getting my head around that is my problem, not Carlton's.

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For people with longer memories would it be as bad as Neil Balme landing at our club

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8 years too late.

If any coach has struggled with the 6-6-6 changes, it's Clarkson. Best 2 two-way runners in the competition in Scully and Smith, yet routinely torched on the outside this season.

2 mil a season indicates to me the potential that we don't fully understand how the soft cap on coaching staff works.

I would suggest Clarkson adjusts with the real world , Pagan and Malthouse were too arrogant to read the tea leaves. Ferguson, how old was he when he retired, and what has man u done since,,, how old is Klopp (52 same age as clarkson ) is he a has been !! Whether we think clarkson is an arsehole because he broke Aitkens jaw is irrelevant , he can coach full stop!!!!

Soft Cap LOL!! The actual definition in Afl terms is bullshit tax!! Many ways to get around that token bullshit.( just like the salary cap) What makes things worse is that people believe it actually exists and is actually enforced , nudge nudge wink , wink!! Laughable.

Good evening, Mr. Elliott. Hope you and family doing just fine.

Good evening Gillon !!

Clarkson, to them help Coniglio over the line ...

somehow we need to get a ruckmen and a small forward and its wooshka ... finals time

Pagan simply couldn't evolve when the game changed. Still played Pagan's Paddock when it was worked out long before, still controlling interchange from the box with about 30 interchanges when other club's players were more autonomous and had 100-120 changes. As for Mick the game had passed him by. Using the same boundary game plan when others had sorted it out.

Clarko created a miracle getting to Hawthorn top 4 at the end of the H & A last year.

I don’t think you can, as many have already done, put getting Clarko in the same boat as getting Pagan and Mick.

Getting Pagan was a last minute desperate move from Jack to try and calm the masses in late 2002 who were rightly baying for his blood.
Pagan was past it, had lost the players at North and quickly lost the players at Carlton, never to get them back. He had the draft sanctions to deal with once he came here also. The club was broke, the facilities were ancient and our playing list was a shambles. It was never going to work and didn’t.

Malthouse, pure and simple, was a boys club appointment by Swan and Sticks, thinking our list was better than it was and Mick could help us pinch a flag. We also had Hughes and Rodgers super recruiting and drafting to deal with. The list fell apart pretty quickly once the lack of depth and quality was exposed and a heart and soul players like Eddie was traded.

Today, the club isn’t in the perilous position it was in 2002, and the days of boys club decisions and not following due process are gone unlike back in 2012. Also, I don’t see any of the coaching contenders being at the ‘past it’ phase both Den Den and Mick were either.

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For me it would, I well remember Balme's dog act, I was there. Geoff Southby has moved on, which says everything about him, he's a class act. I'm not.

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Agree , some would say Barassi

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Bit of a difference there.

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