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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:20 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:21 pm 
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https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-20 ... dc776a1486

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Last week CEO Cain Liddle told Bolton in a private conversation the win-loss threshold was becoming an issue. In reality everyone already knew this, but Little’s message was essentially prophetic.

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That meeting lasted 20 minutes and a press conference was called for 2.15pm in the George Harrison room. A payout was organised and like that, Bolton’s 77-game tenure as Carlton was coach was complete.


Wrong Beatle in the context of today's events...


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:21 pm 
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Quality person and it's a shame it ended this way

I will miss the heart tugging speeches the club released from time to time

Looks like the playing group respected him and will be interesting how they move on from here...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:22 pm 
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Unfortunatley he had to go, now we get someone in that will call out the limp wristed players who threw him under the bus.

Spineless lot, who need a kick up the arse!! They need to take allot of the responsibility for the performances and the coaches sacking!!

And they can forget the crocodile tears, they were spineless!!

agree players have a lot to answer for; but was it the players who didn't stick to the game plan or the various coaches who couldn't devise a game plan - which brings me to Teague; as forward line coach is he responsible for a shit forward line set up - leaves a worry now that he's got the head job...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:23 pm 
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Rod Spooky Galt wrote:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2019-the-private-chat-that-spelled-the-end-for-brendon-bolton-as-carlton-coach/news-story/a87c8afa7aff898cea5455dc776a1486

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Last week CEO Cain Liddle told Bolton in a private conversation the win-loss threshold was becoming an issue. In reality everyone already knew this, but Little’s message was essentially prophetic.

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That meeting lasted 20 minutes and a press conference was called for 2.15pm in the George Harrison room. A payout was organised and like that, Bolton’s 77-game tenure as Carlton was coach was complete.


Wrong Beatle in the context of today's events...

son of George harris……..?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:28 pm 
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Blue Beatle wrote:
Trigger wrote:
Unfortunatley he had to go, now we get someone in that will call out the limp wristed players who threw him under the bus.

Spineless lot, who need a kick up the arse!! They need to take allot of the responsibility for the performances and the coaches sacking!!

And they can forget the crocodile tears, they were spineless!!

agree players have a lot to answer for; but was it the players who didn't stick to the game plan or the various coaches who couldn't devise a game plan - which brings me to Teague; as forward line coach is he responsible for a shit forward line set up - leaves a worry now that he's got the head job...

Can someone let me know why we appointed teague , and at which club he was assistant coach and what was he responsible for?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:30 pm 
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Trigger wrote:
Blue Beatle wrote:
Trigger wrote:
Unfortunatley he had to go, now we get someone in that will call out the limp wristed players who threw him under the bus.

Spineless lot, who need a kick up the arse!! They need to take allot of the responsibility for the performances and the coaches sacking!!

And they can forget the crocodile tears, they were spineless!!

agree players have a lot to answer for; but was it the players who didn't stick to the game plan or the various coaches who couldn't devise a game plan - which brings me to Teague; as forward line coach is he responsible for a shit forward line set up - leaves a worry now that he's got the head job...

Can someone let me know why we appointed teague , and at which club he was assistant coach and what was he responsible for?


Crows and Eagles I believe, now with the Galahs

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:32 pm 
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Trigger wrote:
Blue Beatle wrote:
Trigger wrote:
Unfortunatley he had to go, now we get someone in that will call out the limp wristed players who threw him under the bus.

Spineless lot, who need a kick up the arse!! They need to take allot of the responsibility for the performances and the coaches sacking!!

And they can forget the crocodile tears, they were spineless!!

agree players have a lot to answer for; but was it the players who didn't stick to the game plan or the various coaches who couldn't devise a game plan - which brings me to Teague; as forward line coach is he responsible for a shit forward line set up - leaves a worry now that he's got the head job...

Can someone let me know why we appointed teague , and at which club he was assistant coach and what was he responsible for?


He also coached the Northern Blues for a few years, first as a playing coach, then as full-time coach. Took them to consecutive GFs, which we lost.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:34 pm 
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What a classy exit from Bolton ... a far cry from the Madhouse exit.


Brett Ratten ... come on down!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:42 pm 
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Blue Beatle wrote:
Trigger wrote:
Unfortunatley he had to go, now we get someone in that will call out the limp wristed players who threw him under the bus.

Spineless lot, who need a kick up the arse!! They need to take allot of the responsibility for the performances and the coaches sacking!!

And they can forget the crocodile tears, they were spineless!!

agree players have a lot to answer for; but was it the players who didn't stick to the game plan or the various coaches who couldn't devise a game plan - which brings me to Teague; as forward line coach is he responsible for a shit forward line set up - leaves a worry now that he's got the head job...


I guess Mark Harvey could be an outside chance...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:43 pm 
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Cripps and Doch speak

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:44 pm 
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Blue Beatle wrote:
Trigger wrote:
Unfortunatley he had to go, now we get someone in that will call out the limp wristed players who threw him under the bus.

Spineless lot, who need a kick up the arse!! They need to take allot of the responsibility for the performances and the coaches sacking!!

And they can forget the crocodile tears, they were spineless!!

agree players have a lot to answer for; but was it the players who didn't stick to the game plan or the various coaches who couldn't devise a game plan - which brings me to Teague; as forward line coach is he responsible for a shit forward line set up - leaves a worry now that he's got the head job...

I would suggest we constantly keep blaming the Coach and the assistants, but it is the excuse we have been using for the last 20 years!! SOS needs to be put under the hammer for picking players with a history of injury problems and no heart!! Our president and board need there arses kicked as well!!

Take a look at liverpool fc,( and i am a manu supporter) if you do not fit in with the personality of the manger or the supporters and you are after money, you are not a fit for the club! (sanchez at man u, he created a cancer in the club) How are they going?



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:46 pm 
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robertbb wrote:
I know for absolute fact he's better when the cameras are off (his family were in business for many years with my old-man's family... and he does know how to get deals done)... but sweet merciful crap, get him some media training or get him (read: keep him) away from the lens.


He's not a great deal better when the cameras are off...and he's had lots of media training. But we've seen no improvement...


So is it the media training coach’s fault or the students ability?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:51 pm 
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I’m sorry it ended this way, but something had to give.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:08 pm 
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Blue Beatle wrote:
Rod Spooky Galt wrote:
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2019-the-private-chat-that-spelled-the-end-for-brendon-bolton-as-carlton-coach/news-story/a87c8afa7aff898cea5455dc776a1486

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Last week CEO Cain Liddle told Bolton in a private conversation the win-loss threshold was becoming an issue. In reality everyone already knew this, but Little’s message was essentially prophetic.

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That meeting lasted 20 minutes and a press conference was called for 2.15pm in the George Harrison room. A payout was organised and like that, Bolton’s 77-game tenure as Carlton was coach was complete.


Wrong Beatle in the context of today's events...

son of George harris……..?


Dark horse for the coaching position?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:10 pm 
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MLG is human.

He sacked a person who everyone agrees is a really great guy.

MLG has feelings, he knows BB is a good person, he also sat there and delivered an outcome which many on here had been calling for and indeed celebrated as it became clear it was about to happen.

MLG has been highly successful for the Blues. He may be poor in the media but he fronted the presser today and delivered a tough message.

Poor form to bag a leader who wasn't perfectly eloquent in delivering the news of having sacked a genuinely nice person.

As for people saying he didn't pump BB up enough, he would have been pilloried as being fake if he'd praised BB too much whilst sacking him for failing to deliver.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:17 pm 
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Ockham's Razor wrote:
MLG is human.

He sacked a person who everyone agrees is a really great guy.

MLG has feelings, he knows BB is a good person, he also sat there and delivered an outcome which many on here had been calling for and indeed celebrated as it became clear it was about to happen.

MLG has been highly successful for the Blues. He may be poor in the media but he fronted the presser today and delivered a tough message.

Poor form to bag a leader who wasn't perfectly eloquent in delivering the news of having sacked a genuinely nice person.

As for people saying he didn't pump BB up enough, he would have been pilloried as being fake if he'd praised BB too much whilst sacking him for failing to deliver.
:clap:

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Ockham's Razor wrote:
MLG has been highly successful for the Blues.


It's for another thread - but this is bullshit.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:27 pm 
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I don't understand the core premise of Bolton's sacking.

If the whole club still believes in the long-term strategy, which is to go to the draft and then rebuild, why does their win-loss record right now (especially given injuries ie Docherty) matter?

Also: If you're going to be bad, there isn't THAT much difference between being 1-10 right now and being 3-8. That's what Gold Coast is with an equally bad or worse list. Natural variability determines wins and losses sometimes. Bolton would still be there if they were 3-8 right?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:30 pm 
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I don’t think this is all doom and gloom, I’ll try and be half glass full (as a surprise to many here) and say that this has the potential to be like the Brendan Macartney / Luke Beveridge transition at the Western Bulldogs.

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