A bit of perspective, in'' relatively recent'' years we have sacked 4 Premiership Coaches.
Parkin, Walls, Pagan and Malthouse. Because the team(s) at that time were not performing to the standard expected/demanded by CFC.
But all of those sides were nowhere near as clueless or inept as the present day side.

This surely can't be allowed to bumble along. There has to be change, as unpleasant as it may be.
I think the membership know that, deep down the club know that, but more importantly I reckon the players know that and won't be shocked if and when it happens.

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I notice Brett Ratten's name being thrown around here, my question is, why would he want it ?

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Before the game I was worried and said so to my brother, St Kilda has smashed us recently - I wondered why.

Then their team ran out and our team ran out and I saw why. They looked huge compared to us, all of us with the exception of Cripps. They just looked huge.
The we decided to walk not run, kick to them not to each other, stop not go forward, lead to the boundary not up the guts, kick to SOS not Harry or Curnow...

We were playing well and didn't get the wins...now we are playing awful - I think Adelaide will be very happy. I do like Stoker though, fearless. And Walsh...thank God for Walsh!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

It is going to be absolutely galling to hand over a top 3 pick - probably 1 - to the Crows “for a generational midfielder” but there’s something about Stocker.
Isn’t killing it yet but has poise, doesn’t seem overawed and hints at a steely, tough resolve. And, as you mentioned above, he’s already a good size. Attributes the side clearly lacks.
We need to take comfort in his steady progression. For those worried about the narrative, a strong finish to the year by the kid might help ease the “Carlton gave up pick 1” hysteria.
And the Crows haven’t proven they’re top 8, let alone top 4 material yet.

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I just want my old club back ... (edit) maybe I have!

I believe the strategy was always that we didn't want to add more talented kids this year, but rather trade our first round for a best mature player that we can get a deal done i.e Coniglio

So let's assume that we get it done, would you be happy with Coniglio and stoker for a top 3 draft pick?

I think Bolton will be lucky to see out the year.

Not necessarily because I think he should be sacked, but because the club will want to be seen to be doing something in the face of growing media pressure. Then the next coach will come in, and just become the next dead man walking, especially if he's stuck with the current crop of assistants who are arguably more responsible for the way the players are playing than the senior coach.

This club is dysfunctional from top to bottom and it's becoming clear that no shuffling of deck chairs is going to stop it sinking.

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Ignoring the media pressure and remaining united to a full process for the first time ever will prove we've turned the corner as a club. The vultures will always look for a car crash and when they can't find one they'll brake check everyone til they cause one.

I truly hope that Silvagni has the plan you mentioned in mind re the pick swap, Coniglio or any other quality mature bodied midfielder, we’re not fixated with Coniglio.
Otherwise the exercise will be a very big boob-boob.

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I only meant Coniglio as an example, I would hope that we can get something outside the box and a little unexpected.

I agree fully that SOS has put a heap of pressure on himself if he cant get it done

I would rather Bolton stay because he has some good traits that I like.

But he and Lloyd have to meaningfully change things up in the coaching dept because it's not working at the moment.

Bolton has no history of ever being a successful AFL coach. We can't risk this team of young talent in the hands of someone so inexperienced.

Process of elimination - take out Bolton and bring in someone with a different approach for the next 14 games. In the meantime, search for or get the best available coach to bring us back on course.

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Don't faint Dukey boy
But I agree wth you for the same reasons. Mental health and confidence of the team.
Seems there are 4 schools of thought
1. Give it time don't change anything.
2. It's the board and staff(variations therein) inc. S.O..S
3. It's the players
4. Its 'Bolts and coaching panel.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

New coach equals dead cat bounce...... I'd take that right now and the club needs it

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We are haemorrhaging life force right now. It has to be treated. That word is not easy to spell!!

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Any of the insiders on here have any murmurs about what the club is going to do?

Maybe the Club should read all the advice on TC. It would help

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Our tradition demands success!

Don't worry about individuals. Give them a good game plan that suits their strengths and watch these players suddenly come good. In our case, we need to let our players just take the game on. We produced the 6 best qtrs in years when we were allowed to do that against the Dogs and Hawthorn. All those young ones we bag we all very good. Right now we have kicked the flair right out of them and their confidence this stuffed.

My blood pressure is fine. I've been prepared for this moment for a long time...the moment when everyone else works out he's not up to the job. Literally, the same people who told me I'm not a 'true' supporter now hold the same opinion of the coach just 2 weeks later.

Option 4 is step 1.

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Please explain how this is going to help such a young and inexperienced team?

The club would have known from the get go that year 3&4 would have our youngest and least experienced list and that a lot of thing would need to go right to get the wins loss ratio to improve.

I commend Bolts on coaching for 3 years time at the expense of coaching for the now, question is whether that is what the club still wants to pursue or get the players to play a simpler gameplan like Gold Coast to get some belief in the group

The club has to replace Barker before giving up on Bolts.

the frustrating bit is....Stocker could turn out elite yet still the media will report the trade as a straight swap of first round picks

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