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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 8:53 pm 
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Adrian Gallagher
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kingkerna wrote:
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Well have the talent, serious talent. Just as shit coach

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Bolton ain’t the problem
The problem is the board who appointed SOS who appointed Brodie
Sacking Bolton will change nothing just like the previous coaches who were sacked
before their contracts were up

Have a look at what the favourite son has done
All these shit footballers from other AFL clubs
Many who he recruited with high draft picks when he was
head of recruiting at GWS

It ain’t Bolton’s fault when spuds like Kennedy andPlowman get games
and kick it to the opposition
Look at Parker
Pick 47
Leave half our blokes for dead for skill

You are dead in the water if your head of recruiting is shit
It’s a far more important job than the head coach

And to think he gave 5 picks for Mc Govern Setterfield gave Fasolo a spot in our list
and our first pick in this years draft will be in the teens

Sacking Bolton will change nothing

The Board should all walk
But they wont
And SOS will probably stay
Yawn, the coach isn't getting the best out of the players.

It's the booooooooooooard, the booooooooooooard

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18 years of evidence and you still don’t get it
The two issues are separate, you don't get it andrewking2206@gmail.com never will

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Name and shame? Definitive bullying attempt in my mind.

Under SOS -
Still here
Andrew Phillips
Lachie Plowman
Jacob Weitering
Harry McKay
Charlie Curnow
David Cuningham
Jack Silvagni
Caleb Marchbank
Jarrod Pickett
Sam Petrevski-Seton
Zac Fisher
Harrison Macreadie
Cameron Polson
Tom Williamson
Pat Kerr
Kym LeBois
Matthew Lobbe
Matthew Kennedy
Darcy Lang
Paddy Dow
Lochie O'Brien
Tom De Koning
Angus Schumacher
Jarrod Garlett
Alex Fasolo
Mitch McGovern
Will Setterfield
Nic Newman

Not here
Daniel Gorringe
Matthew Wright
Sam Kerridge
Jed Lamb
Liam Sumner
Jesse Glass-McCasker
Andrew Gallucci
Matthew Korcheck
Billie Smedts
Rhys Palmer
Alex Silvagni
Andrew Gallucci
Ciarán Sheehan
Aaron Mullett
Cam O'Shea
Matt Shaw
Cillian McDaid

With the picks that we have had? Patently not good enough recruiting.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 8:55 pm 
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Wayne Johnston

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kingkerna wrote:
keogh wrote:
kingkerna wrote:
Well have the talent, serious talent. Just as shit coach

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Bolton ain’t the problem
The problem is the board who appointed SOS who appointed Brodie
Sacking Bolton will change nothing just like the previous coaches who were sacked
before their contracts were up

Have a look at what the favourite son has done
All these shit footballers from other AFL clubs
Many who he recruited with high draft picks when he was
head of recruiting at GWS

It ain’t Bolton’s fault when spuds like Kennedy andPlowman get games
and kick it to the opposition
Look at Parker
Pick 47
Leave half our blokes for dead for skill

You are dead in the water if your head of recruiting is shit
It’s a far more important job than the head coach

And to think he gave 5 picks for Mc Govern Setterfield gave Fasolo a spot in our list
and our first pick in this years draft will be in the teens

Sacking Bolton will change nothing

The Board should all walk
But they wont
And SOS will probably stay
Yawn, the coach isn't getting the best out of the players.

It's the booooooooooooard, the booooooooooooard

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Yes! Spot on!

You put someone as a "foe" and you still have to read his crap when he's quoted....lol


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 8:57 pm 
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Garry Crane

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Bolton and all of he’s coaching staff have to go
they are all clueless
It is there job to come up with a system and structures
that works 4 years on and we have not got one
We haven’t improved as a team and how many players
have improved since the start of this so called rebuild not to
many
We can go on about our recruitment and sos he has got some talent
in it is our poor coaching and structure that is letting us down


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 8:57 pm 
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Gallucci - must have been bad to get rid of him twice! :smile:

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:01 pm 
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Harry Vallence

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I hope the same blowtorch is put on Stephen Silvagni as it is on Bolton.

Our list manager has pieced together a slow moving backline that lacks the running power to connect with the midfield and launch fast attacks on the break giving little time for the opposition to get back and support their defence.

Our list manager has pieced together a very lightly framed midfield that lack the armour to go into combat … can't break tackles, can't hold tackles. On top of that he has assembled a midfield that lacks the running power to not only spread and build up attacks but also the running power to break down opposition attacks.

Prior to Stephen Silvagni taking over we were slow in both foot and ball movement and now four drafts and trade periods we are not much better. There was a good reason why GWS gave up on the players they did to come to us … they either lacked the running power required at this level … lacked the ability to move the ball quickly and … were surplus to their needs and/or their bodies were showing signs of struggling with the rigours of AFL.

I am not a Bolton fan … the thing I do like is his efforts to improve the culture … other than that his method of ball movement is no good and his match day moves are non existent.

But lets not just blame the coach


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:05 pm 
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Could it be Ross the boss back at Carlton?


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:10 pm 
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I have been on at this for a while now.
There is no substance its all waffle.
Playing group are hearing this day in day out

If he is to survive 2 things need to happen.
1. Pick your best team that gives you a chance of winning.
2. Play to the players strengths and forget about trying to improve their weekness

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:21 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
I have been on at this for a while now.
There is no substance its all waffle.
Playing group are hearing this day in day out

If he is to survive 2 things need to happen.
1. Pick your best team that gives you a chance of winning.
2. Play to the players strengths and forget about trying to improve their weekness

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I have a question, who do you think should've been in the team instead? Because last week everyone (including myself) was calling for Kennedy to come in and today he was pretty much just a witches hat. I now think we would've been better off with Setters.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:27 pm 
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dadadadada wrote:
I hope the same blowtorch is put on Stephen Silvagni as it is on Bolton.

Our list manager has pieced together a slow moving backline that lacks the running power to connect with the midfield and launch fast attacks on the break giving little time for the opposition to get back and support their defence.

Our list manager has pieced together a very lightly framed midfield that lack the armour to go into combat … can't break tackles, can't hold tackles. On top of that he has assembled a midfield that lacks the running power to not only spread and build up attacks but also the running power to break down opposition attacks.

Prior to Stephen Silvagni taking over we were slow in both foot and ball movement and now four drafts and trade periods we are not much better. There was a good reason why GWS gave up on the players they did to come to us … they either lacked the running power required at this level … lacked the ability to move the ball quickly and … were surplus to their needs and/or their bodies were showing signs of struggling with the rigours of AFL.

I am not a Bolton fan … the thing I do like is his efforts to improve the culture … other than that his method of ball movement is no good and his match day moves are non existent.

But lets not just blame the coach


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:35 pm 
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Sidefx wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
I have been on at this for a while now.
There is no substance its all waffle.
Playing group are hearing this day in day out

If he is to survive 2 things need to happen.
1. Pick your best team that gives you a chance of winning.
2. Play to the players strengths and forget about trying to improve their weekness

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I have a question, who do you think should've been in the team instead? Because last week everyone (including myself) was calling for Kennedy to come in and today he was pretty much just a witches hat. I now think we would've been better off with Setters.
Goddard has played 4 good games in a row.
Kerr has been going well
fasolo has been going ok
Setterfield was bad last week but okay every other week.
Casboult should have been put to pasture years ago.

SPS has been struggling so has Fisher and Dow
Stocker needs more time
McGovern has been sinking it up



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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:51 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
I have been on at this for a while now.
There is no substance its all waffle.
Playing group are hearing this day in day out

If he is to survive 2 things need to happen.
1. Pick your best team that gives you a chance of winning.
2. Play to the players strengths and forget about trying to improve their weekness

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I have a question, who do you think should've been in the team instead? Because last week everyone (including myself) was calling for Kennedy to come in and today he was pretty much just a witches hat. I now think we would've been better off with Setters.


Goddard has played 4 good games in a row. I agree, I would like to see him play but we had Simpson and Newman come in, on paper they are better ins and until today I would've put him behind Weitering, Plowman and Marchbank
Kerr has been going well Which forward would've he replaced? Even moving McGovern back so he could fit in probably wouldn't have worked as he had a real stinker of a game
fasolo has been going ok I would've selected Cunningham over him
Setterfield was bad last week but okay every other week. Agreed, but everyone was calling for Kennedy too
Casboult should have been put to pasture years ago. Can't argue with this but we needed a back up ruck and Phillips and Lobbe are useless

SPS has been struggling so has Fisher and Dow Agree
Stocker needs more time Agree
McGovern has been sinking it up He's very hot and cold and today was arctic



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All in all, this just shows even though our depth is getting better it is still not deep enough. We still have some very average players and really talented inexperienced kids. We really need some freak mid in the midseason draft tomorrow and as I've been saying, A-Grade talent to want to come to the club. Get the brown paper bags back out.....F$%^k the AFL.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 10:04 pm 
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It took a few on here enough time to see the light. It is unequivocal now. The players are jaded, listless, mentally spent and need a new message to invigorate them. It isn’t the list , the skill level or the talent , it’s the lack of confidence in each other to run to the right spots and move the ball forward to players in space. Nice guy, good teacher, but not the right person for where we are right now.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 10:12 pm 
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Sidefx wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
I have been on at this for a while now.
There is no substance its all waffle.
Playing group are hearing this day in day out

If he is to survive 2 things need to happen.
1. Pick your best team that gives you a chance of winning.
2. Play to the players strengths and forget about trying to improve their weekness

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk


I have a question, who do you think should've been in the team instead? Because last week everyone (including myself) was calling for Kennedy to come in and today he was pretty much just a witches hat. I now think we would've been better off with Setters.


Goddard has played 4 good games in a row. I agree, I would like to see him play but we had Simpson and Newman come in, on paper they are better ins and until today I would've put him behind Weitering, Plowman and Marchbank
Kerr has been going well Which forward would've he replaced? Even moving McGovern back so he could fit in probably wouldn't have worked as he had a real stinker of a game
fasolo has been going ok I would've selected Cunningham over him
Setterfield was bad last week but okay every other week. Agreed, but everyone was calling for Kennedy too
Casboult should have been put to pasture years ago. Can't argue with this but we needed a back up ruck and Phillips and Lobbe are useless

SPS has been struggling so has Fisher and Dow Agree
Stocker needs more time Agree
McGovern has been sinking it up He's very hot and cold and today was arctic



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All in all, this just shows even though our depth is getting better it is still not deep enough. We still have some very average players and really talented inexperienced kids. We really need some freak mid in the midseason draft tomorrow and as I've been saying, A-Grade talent to want to come to the club. Get the brown paper bags back out.....F$%^k the AFL.
You won't attract a big name unless we can find them a career and income outside of football and outside the cap

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 10:18 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Sidefx wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
I have been on at this for a while now.
There is no substance its all waffle.
Playing group are hearing this day in day out

If he is to survive 2 things need to happen.
1. Pick your best team that gives you a chance of winning.
2. Play to the players strengths and forget about trying to improve their weekness

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk


I have a question, who do you think should've been in the team instead? Because last week everyone (including myself) was calling for Kennedy to come in and today he was pretty much just a witches hat. I now think we would've been better off with Setters.


Goddard has played 4 good games in a row. I agree, I would like to see him play but we had Simpson and Newman come in, on paper they are better ins and until today I would've put him behind Weitering, Plowman and Marchbank
Kerr has been going well Which forward would've he replaced? Even moving McGovern back so he could fit in probably wouldn't have worked as he had a real stinker of a game
fasolo has been going ok I would've selected Cunningham over him
Setterfield was bad last week but okay every other week. Agreed, but everyone was calling for Kennedy too
Casboult should have been put to pasture years ago. Can't argue with this but we needed a back up ruck and Phillips and Lobbe are useless

SPS has been struggling so has Fisher and Dow Agree
Stocker needs more time Agree
McGovern has been sinking it up He's very hot and cold and today was arctic



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All in all, this just shows even though our depth is getting better it is still not deep enough. We still have some very average players and really talented inexperienced kids. We really need some freak mid in the midseason draft tomorrow and as I've been saying, A-Grade talent to want to come to the club. Get the brown paper bags back out.....F$%^k the AFL.
You won't attract a big name unless we can find them a career and income outside of football and outside the cap

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 11:33 pm 
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Winning percentage as Carlton coach
Pagan 24%
Bolton 21%


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 12:24 am 
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Winning percentage as Carlton coach
Pagan 24%
Bolton 21%


Get Pagan

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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 1:48 am 
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dablues wrote:
Could it be Ross the boss back at Carlton?



we could do worse

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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 6:38 am 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
dablues wrote:
Could it be Ross the boss back at Carlton?



we could do worse

Last 76 games:

Carlton: 16 wins, 60 losses

Fremantle: 25 wins, 51 losses

Hardly gonna turn our fortunes.

He's been there 8 years. Give Bolts til end of next year as planned.


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 7:36 am 
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They all need to go. Recruiting has been mediocre all things considered. Fisher and Williamson good picks but the GWS experiment has failed. And under Bolton we look disorganised and lacking structure and system. It's year four and we are on the bottom. That equals fail.


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2019 7:47 am 
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The number of simple dropped marks and turnovers, the message isn't getting through. These aren't bad players. SPS turnovers wasn't about his inherent skill level. The message isn't getting throigh from the coach.


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