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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 8:03 am 
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My take, perhaps BB would be better off not trying to turn the players into respectful A grade citizens.
Just turn them into A grade footballers.
Give me a few roughnecks any day.

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 8:14 am 
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murraycray wrote:
My take, perhaps BB would be better off not trying to turn the players into respectful A grade citizens.
Just turn them into A grade footballers.
Give me a few roughnecks any day.



Agree entirely.

North know if they go hard we fold, Brisbane do the same.

What I’d give for a Rhys Jones or Earl Spaulding


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 8:58 am 
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DesEnglish wrote:
murraycray wrote:
My take, perhaps BB would be better off not trying to turn the players into respectful A grade citizens.
Just turn them into A grade footballers.
Give me a few roughnecks any day.



Agree entirely.

North know if they go hard we fold, Brisbane do the same.

What I’d give for a Rhys Jones or Earl Spaulding


Or a Mitch Robinson.

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 9:16 am 
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DesEnglish wrote:
murraycray wrote:
My take, perhaps BB would be better off not trying to turn the players into respectful A grade citizens.
Just turn them into A grade footballers.
Give me a few roughnecks any day.



Agree entirely.

North know if they go hard we fold, Brisbane do the same.

What I’d give for a Rhys Jones or Earl Spaulding


Agreed, but it's very hard to turn kids into roughnecks straight away (unless they are already wired that way). That process takes years of hard hitting and gym work. The only immediate solution is to trade established ones in, that was supposed to be Bam Bam and Shiel. But in all fairness we have Cripps, SPS is getting tougher and Fisher is tough but needs the body to match his aggression. The worry is when you have a ruck that avoids contact, it hardly sets the right tone for the game.


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 9:54 am 
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The failure of Kennedy to step up has affected our engine room.

Crippa is being sat on now and our other mids are still developing.

Can't understand why Jack isn't given more inside mid time as he's got the build and stamina now.

Get Jack in the midfield and free up space for Harry and Charlie inside 50.


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 9:56 am 
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DesEnglish wrote:
murraycray wrote:
My take, perhaps BB would be better off not trying to turn the players into respectful A grade citizens.
Just turn them into A grade footballers.
Give me a few roughnecks any day.



Agree entirely.

North know if they go hard we fold, Brisbane do the same.

What I’d give for a Rhys Jones or Earl Spaulding

Or a Mitch Robinson.


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:18 am 
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MIL wrote:
Bolton said in the pre season that the list was now settled and that we had begun stage 2 of the rebuild. So we are 1-6 with some honourable losses against mid table sides, and today we lost due to senior players out it can be argued (but the lack of intensity for all bar that little 10 minute patch was a real worry).

If we finish at 3-19 which is about all we can expect, is that enough after a season in stage 2 ?

When does stage 3 begin ?


The list was settled at the start of this season, that means Bolton hasn’t even had one season with a settled list. So we should start judging him on stage one by mid next season.


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:19 am 
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Rexy wrote:
The failure of Kennedy to step up has affected our engine room.

Crippa is being sat on now and our other mids are still developing.

Can't understand why Jack isn't given more inside mid time as he's got the build and stamina now.

Get Jack in the midfield and free up space for Harry and Charlie inside 50.


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 12:39 pm 
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I agree that Kennedy has been disappointing this year. I also agree that SOJ should be given more midfield time. We could do with his intensity and tackling pressure. It also makes our forward line glacially slow when we have 3 talls plus SOJ down there.


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 12:41 pm 
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As much as we clearly loved Stocker, I don't think we would have risked the pick swap with Adelaide, if we thought we were a good chance of finishing bottom again.

I'm a Bolton fan, and the list is very promising, but I can't see him surviving another 3-4 win season.


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 1:04 pm 
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I really don't know where to sit on Bolton, in one way I applaud that he sets a game plan mid week and doesn't tinker too much with it in game as this takes a fair amount of courage and forces players to be held totally accountable to the execution of that role. We have a very, very inexperienced side and anyone who has experience with junior footy will know where I am coming from in that kids finding their way can't adjust mid game to playing a different role.

On the other hand, I think he is not setting a high enough standard as far as expectations. It seems that every criticism of his players is followed up with a positive which is OK most of the time, but there are times when you have to call a spade a spade and from the outside he doesn't look like he has the courage to deal with the outfall of some harsh criticisms directed at the players.


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 1:59 pm 
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Steve_C7 wrote:
I really don't know where to sit on Bolton, in one way I applaud that he sets a game plan mid week and doesn't tinker too much with it in game as this takes a fair amount of courage and forces players to be held totally accountable to the execution of that role. We have a very, very inexperienced side and anyone who has experience with junior footy will know where I am coming from in that kids finding their way can't adjust mid game to playing a different role.

On the other hand, I think he is not setting a high enough standard as far as expectations. It seems that every criticism of his players is followed up with a positive which is OK most of the time, but there are times when you have to call a spade a spade and from the outside he doesn't look like he has the courage to deal with the outfall of some harsh criticisms directed at the players.


Without being in any of the meetings you might be onto something. I think the selection panel needs to drop some big names :wink: this week to send that message, loud and clear.

I think it would be easier to drop big names if we had more of them though, our dilemma is drop mature players and potentially lose a game or keep them and reward poor performance. We're not winning any anyway so I say drop them and see what happens.


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 2:48 pm 
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What a peculiar thread...!


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 2:53 pm 
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I really don't know where to sit on Bolton


The lap, the head or the face are the obvious choices.

Each to their own.

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 3:23 pm 
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At least this week I feel like I'm back in the land of the living. All those positive vibes and media last week felt like I was living in an outer body experience.

Life is as it seems now...I can get on with my work and not watch footy shows again.


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 3:34 pm 
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Come on down Brett Ratten!

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 4:23 pm 
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Come on down a fit no1 ruckman.

If not Kreuzer, who?

We've looked a million bucks in the 6 and a bit quarters that Kreuz has played this year. I mean, that might be a coincidence, but it might not be either.

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 4:35 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
The failure of Kennedy to step up has affected our engine room.

Crippa is being sat on now and our other mids are still developing.

Can't understand why Jack isn't given more inside mid time as he's got the build and stamina now.

Get Jack in the midfield and free up space for Harry and Charlie inside 50.


I think Jack should be eyeing off Marchbanks spot.

Poor Bolts. List management and lady luck hasnt helped him. I bet he never expected to be coach of team fielding 14 players with less than 50 games.


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 5:24 pm 
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Similar to Brisbane last year. They had 3 close losses at the start of the year then got pulverised in Round 4.
At 3/4 time they'd scored 1.4.
I recall people saying their list was shit, the coach may be out of his depth. By the end of the year good players were falling over themselves to go there.

I've said before, we are 12 months behind them if not a bit closer and it still stands. If we don't have 5-6 wins by seasons end, kick Bolton all you want but let's not fall into the media trick of loving the list/coach and canning it each 7 days.
FWIW, I reckon we'll roll the Pies this week.

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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 5:51 pm 
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Reckon the Pies will take us lightly BV?

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